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CS Fullerton Game Thread
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Grizbacker1
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jdhog45 said:
Shapr has had a pretty nice season this far, and is an animal on the boards. I think he will shine when the Griz play teams that are not so perimeter oriented.
Qvale and Vandy didn't log too many minutes, again, matchup problems.
mtgrizrule
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We do have solid on the ball defenders in CET, Graves, and Rundles. By the sounds of it, CSF was hitting everything. When a team is on fire even with hands in their face, there is not anything in the world any team can do about it. From the comments I heared on the radio and posted on line, it was a matter of a team getting in a zone from downtown. I have coached teams where it has happened to us. As a coach, you just pay credit where credit is due, work on improving, and hope like hell you do not face any team on fire like that again!!!!!!!!
It is like the softball/baseball team without power or speed, but beat you because they know how to hit where your defense is not! Very seldom will any basketball team at any level hit at 56% from downtown. Hell if they hit at 40% (10 of 25) we win that game. My main concern is our FT shooting. That has to improve to make it to the postseason this year!!!! GO GRIZ!!!
It is like the softball/baseball team without power or speed, but beat you because they know how to hit where your defense is not! Very seldom will any basketball team at any level hit at 56% from downtown. Hell if they hit at 40% (10 of 25) we win that game. My main concern is our FT shooting. That has to improve to make it to the postseason this year!!!! GO GRIZ!!!
From what I could see on Bigskytv, CSF had a LOT of open 3 looks as well. Some were well defended, but in many cases, the Griz guards just did not step out to them.
Grizbacker1
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EverettGriz said:
Based on his post game comments, it doesn't sound like Tinks felt the perimeter defense was very good, and CET said as much in the Missoulian. I like the fact the Griz are seeing teams that play a wide variety of styles. This pre season schedule will prepare them for BSC play much better than the Simon Fraser's that dotted the schedule back in the Montgomery, Morrill, Taylor, Holst days. The win-loss record may suffer, but why be concerned with that, it isn't like the BSC gets an at large NCAA bid anyway. You have to win the BSC tournament so you may as well play tough teams to prepare. :twocents:
I agree GB1. My only concern/issue is that defense is all about effort, and I just didn't see enough of it last night (especially the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half). But your point about a strong nonconference schedule and different styles is spot-on.
I'd rather lose to CSF than play Alcorn (RPI 321) like the cats did.
I'd rather lose to CSF than play Alcorn (RPI 321) like the cats did.
GrizBBIsKing
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Considering the Griz play Cal State Fullerton again on December 20 at their place, they will have plenty of practice with defending the type of offense that CS-Fullerton employs. This game will be as good of a gauge on how the Griz are improving better than anything else.
I expect it to be a high scoring game, just not giving up 100 and hope that Griz win the rematch. The team averaged around 80 points coming into yesterdays game. I expect the Griz to hold them below 80 next game.
I expect it to be a high scoring game, just not giving up 100 and hope that Griz win the rematch. The team averaged around 80 points coming into yesterdays game. I expect the Griz to hold them below 80 next game.
Its all about matchups. Griz strength is in the paint. So maximize it-
play Hasquet, Strait,Qvale, and Sharp. Deveope a tight zone D.
slow the tempo-run an offense.
It doesn't matter if we can shoot 3's. We are not going to win playing run and gun with 6ft white boys of average speed.
play Hasquet, Strait,Qvale, and Sharp. Deveope a tight zone D.
slow the tempo-run an offense.
It doesn't matter if we can shoot 3's. We are not going to win playing run and gun with 6ft white boys of average speed.
We couldn't play a big 3 last night when the starter was in. He was not that tall, but was a good player and terrific shooter. We had a bigger guy on him a few times, and he got the open or semi-open 3 and knocked it down. Taylor is a very good defender, but even he wasn't able to stop a number of 3's. The Griz did play some zone last night, in both halves.
Mslacat
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EverettGriz said:
Oh give it a break! Given a choice I think every Big Sky coach would have scheduled a much easier schedule that they have. Yes Alcorn has a low RPI, as a matter of fact it has the lowest RPI of any team in the Cat's schedule out side of few Big Sky conference teams right now. The Griz though still have a few cupcakes in their home schedule also - Portland . The Cats have played UC Santa Barbara (32), Nevada Las Vegas (82) at their place and have played the close. We also have Arizona State, and Nevada at their place. Now I am not going to argue who has the tougher schedule the Griz have the highest rated strength of schedule in the conference but from what I can tell the cats at #3 is definitely not have a Bobby Hauck type schedule as you would infer in your post.
Speaking of football strength of schedule, this linked site (from ncaa.org) indicates that Montana had a stronger schedule than Montana State. UM was 86th and MSU's was 102nd (out of 110). So. Utah's was no. 1.
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/toughest%20schedule/iaa_9games_cumm.pdf
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/toughest%20schedule/iaa_9games_cumm.pdf
Turd Ferguson
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PlayerRep said:
First of all, this has nothing to do with basketball.
Second of all, I'm calling bullshit on that.
UM MSU
Fort Lewis = Dixie State
So. Utah = So. Utah
Albany <<<<<<<<<< Texas A&M
BIG SKY = BIG SKY
Zirg
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CDAGRIZ said:
Fullerton not only plays Montana twice this pre-season, they also play Southern Utah twice, so it appears to be more of a Fullerton tactic rather than our idea.
2 Top 15 opponants is plenty. We're playing a GREAT OOC schedule this year anyways. We should be plenty prepared for the Big Sky which is all that matters.
Zirg
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jdhog45 said:
Sharp as usual does the dirty work behind the curtains. He doesn't do anything outstanding enough to notice him much, but he always seems to end up with 6-8 rebounds. He had a couple easy lay-ups that could/should have been dunks but he just prefers to lay them in. His style of play makes him someone who rarely stands out, but he plays a big role.
Kvale had a nice block running back and defending a fast-break dunk. Otherwise, he didn't do much. Not a great team for him to match-up with as Fullerton has almost zero post-play. Their tallest guy was 6'6". They were all small and quick and chuckers from 3-piont-land. Qvale will be needed more against other team's big guys.
Zirg, you must not have been at the game, or be blind, regarding the Martin foul. The CSF player even told Martin after the play that he fakeed the foul. It looked to me that Martin reached and I think caught mainly CSF's player's arm. Bad call, but the ref bought the "flop" as sometimes happens.
