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Credit Where it's Due

mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
In one of these threads someone literally listed things you have said, in particular one that sticks out is claiming the Griz O-Line was better then the Cats. And frankly, just your behavior in general it seems when it comes to anyone having any criticisms when it comes to this coaching staff or team.

A month or more ago, after I had said several times that I'd rather have the UM o-line than the MSU o-line (mainly because I thought UM could pass block), I later said, in response to a troll, that the UM line was 10 deep (this was directly from the UM coaches) and then I said that one time the UM line was better. I was saying, or meaning to say, that our top 10 were better. So far, the UM o-line has played far below potential.

Almost everything you say about football is wrong.

Hey UT griz that was me it’s Bobby’s press release thread…

Anyways MTPoops. You are the village idiot. You’re either mincing words and trying to say “I didn’t say that” (you did, it’s all over the Bobby press release thread and I commented back but haven’t heard from you)… or you are just regurgitating what Bobby and the boys spoon feed you and it made you look like an idiot. Either way. You need to just move on and say you were flat out wrong. UM’s line never was, is, or supposed to be better than MSU. That’s not even in contention. Your O-line is literally as I/ anyone with a pulse advertised, I think that old UM running back nailed it in a podcast, another year doesn’t just make them better. Same goes for the RB room.
 
CatsRback said:
mthoopsfan said:
A month or more ago, after I had said several times that I'd rather have the UM o-line than the MSU o-line (mainly because I thought UM could pass block), I later said, in response to a troll, that the UM line was 10 deep (this was directly from the UM coaches) and then I said that one time the UM line was better. I was saying, or meaning to say, that our top 10 were better. So far, the UM o-line has played far below potential.

Almost everything you say about football is wrong.

Hey UT griz that was me it’s Bobby’s press release thread…

Anyways MTPoops. You are the village idiot. You’re either mincing words and trying to say “I didn’t say that” (you did, it’s all over the Bobby press release thread and I commented back but haven’t heard from you)… or you are just regurgitating what Bobby and the boys spoon feed you and it made you look like an idiot. Either way. You need to just move on and say you were flat out wrong. UM’s line never was, is, or supposed to be better than MSU. That’s not even in contention. Your O-line is literally as I/ anyone with a pulse advertised, I think that old UM running back nailed it in a podcast, another year doesn’t just make them better. Same goes for the RB room.

What did the press release or thread say, i.e. what did Bobby say? Ya, the UM o-line has been a big disappointment, and, so far, went backwards from last year with the same guys and another year's experience. The season isn't over. The UM 0-line was much impressed yesterday from the previous week. Yes, the Cat o-line much be better at this point. (I haven't seen any Cat games since the first week.) I'm still hopeful for the Griz. (Note that I wasn't one saying the Griz would be great this season, nor making any season predictions.) I'm still saying the Griz will beat the Cats. Note the Griz beat the Cats in 2021.
 
mthoopsfan said:
CatsRback said:
Hey UT griz that was me it’s Bobby’s press release thread…

Anyways MTPoops. You are the village idiot. You’re either mincing words and trying to say “I didn’t say that” (you did, it’s all over the Bobby press release thread and I commented back but haven’t heard from you)… or you are just regurgitating what Bobby and the boys spoon feed you and it made you look like an idiot. Either way. You need to just move on and say you were flat out wrong. UM’s line never was, is, or supposed to be better than MSU. That’s not even in contention. Your O-line is literally as I/ anyone with a pulse advertised, I think that old UM running back nailed it in a podcast, another year doesn’t just make them better. Same goes for the RB room.

What did the press release or thread say, i.e. what did Bobby say? Ya, the UM o-line has been a big disappointment, and, so far, went backwards from last year with the same guys and another year's experience. The season isn't over. The UM 0-line was much impressed yesterday from the previous week. Yes, the Cat o-line much be better at this point. (I haven't seen any Cat games since the first week.) I'm still hopeful for the Griz. (Note that I wasn't one saying the Griz would be great this season, nor making any season predictions.) I'm still saying the Griz will beat the Cats. Note the Griz beat the Cats in 2021.

I bumped the thread, you can see your comments as well as my replies with links. Indulge.
 
Okay, your post:

"MTGRIZ12 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

play calling was iffy at best. [Wrong, multiple posters have said the play-calling was good or much better.] Tecmo bowl playbook. [I don't know you think this means, but you're wrong. Ha.] Oline sucks, [o-line played at least okay in this game] and recruiting sucks [recruiting has been fairly good], it's beyond time for a regime change top to bottom [I don't agree, but we'll see how the season goes] .....starting with Haslam. [I don't agree. Haslam hasn't done anything wrong with football.]

There, you were wrong on each point.
 
CatsRback said:
mthoopsfan said:
What did the press release or thread say, i.e. what did Bobby say? Ya, the UM o-line has been a big disappointment, and, so far, went backwards from last year with the same guys and another year's experience. The season isn't over. The UM 0-line was much impressed yesterday from the previous week. Yes, the Cat o-line much be better at this point. (I haven't seen any Cat games since the first week.) I'm still hopeful for the Griz. (Note that I wasn't one saying the Griz would be great this season, nor making any season predictions.) I'm still saying the Griz will beat the Cats. Note the Griz beat the Cats in 2021.

I bumped the thread, you can see your comments as well as my replies with links. Indulge.

I don't have time or desire to look. If you want to call something to my attention, feel free.
 
mthoopsfan said:
CatsRback said:
I bumped the thread, you can see your comments as well as my replies with links. Indulge.

I don't have time or desire to look. If you want to call something to my attention, feel free.

Haha, You’re a fraud. Look at you backpedal. I bumped the thread where you ran your mouth, and I pulled it to the top. Get outta here, you clearly don’t know the game. Have a good Sunday.
 
CatsRback said:
mthoopsfan said:
I don't have time or desire to look. If you want to call something to my attention, feel free.

Haha, You’re a fraud. Look at you backpedal. I bumped the thread where you ran your mouth and pulled I it to the top. Get outta here, you clearly don’t know the game. Have a good Sunday.

I'm not taking the time to look at a fraud. You can't back up your point. You must have something particular in mind. Say it, or GFOOH.
 
mthoopsfan said:
CatsRback said:
Haha, You’re a fraud. Look at you backpedal. I bumped the thread where you ran your mouth and pulled I it to the top. Get outta here, you clearly don’t know the game. Have a good Sunday.

I'm not taking the time to look at a fraud. You can't back up your point. You must have something particular in mind. Say it, or GFOOH.

Oh? I can’t back up my points? Do you even read before you reply? I made it as easy as possible for you. I directly attached statistics and links under each dumb comment you made and I even bumped the thread. You are truly in the dumps on this one Poops. Time for you to move along and learn the game, troll.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Well it also doesn’t help that this whole time the coaches told us they had a plan at QB. And it’s now very apparent that they had no plan at all. And they still don’t know what they want to do.

They poop their pants every 3 drives and swap Cliff for Vidlak or vice versa. FVCKING commit to the +1 game and run it with Cliff or don’t. I hate this swapping mid game poop.

They actually told you the opposite. They weren't sure, that the media would be disappointed that they weren't going to name a number one guy, because that's what was expected. And unlike a lot of things they've also said about this team, it's the one thing you can hang your hat on.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Okay, your post:

"MTGRIZ12 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

play calling was iffy at best. [Wrong, multiple posters have said the play-calling was good or much better.] Tecmo bowl playbook. [I don't know you think this means, but you're wrong. Ha.] Oline sucks, [o-line played at least okay in this game] and recruiting sucks [recruiting has been fairly good], it's beyond time for a regime change top to bottom [I don't agree, but we'll see how the season goes] .....starting with Haslam. [I don't agree. Haslam hasn't done anything wrong with football.]

There, you were wrong on each point.

No he wasn't, you however are off on quite a few:

-BWhalberg pointed this out: "The Griz rushing game averaged 3.4 yards per carry against a team that was allowing an average of almost 6 yards per carry before." So no the O-Line didn't play well, being better then how they played vs NAU is a VERY, I mean VERY low bar to beat. We couldn't run on a bad defense, that doesn't bode well.

-The play calling only got better after the entire first half had gone by. We were lucky Idaho State missed a field goal and their WR dropped a TD pass in the first half, could have easily been 17-7. Taking a whole half of football to finally change things up from the NAU game is way to long.

-With how we have looked overall this and past seasons (last 2 in particular) and with the upcoming schedule it's safe to that it's absolutely time for a regime change. In 6 years we have only 1 win vs MSU, multiple 4th or worse finishes in the Big Sky, early Playoff exits and in the last 2 seasons clear regression on both sides of the football, in particular horrible offensive play calling and hires.

Seems pretty clear he wasn't far off the mark with all of his points.
 
mthoopsfan said:
MTGRIZ12 said:
play calling was iffy at best. Tecmo bowl playbook. Oline sucks, coaching sucks and recruiting sucks, its beyond time for a regime change top to bottom.....starting with Haslam.

And your post sucks. Learn something about football.

Translation: I am significant, you are not. Your post is worth less than a protozoa’s waste. Respect me.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
Okay, your post:

"MTGRIZ12 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:12 am

play calling was iffy at best. [Wrong, multiple posters have said the play-calling was good or much better.] Tecmo bowl playbook. [I don't know you think this means, but you're wrong. Ha.] Oline sucks, [o-line played at least okay in this game] and recruiting sucks [recruiting has been fairly good], it's beyond time for a regime change top to bottom [I don't agree, but we'll see how the season goes] .....starting with Haslam. [I don't agree. Haslam hasn't done anything wrong with football.]

There, you were wrong on each point.

No he wasn't, you however are off on quite a few:

-BWhalberg pointed this out: "The Griz rushing game averaged 3.4 yards per carry against a team that was allowing an average of almost 6 yards per carry before." So no the O-Line didn't play well, being better then how they played vs NAU is a VERY, I mean VERY low bar to beat. We couldn't run on a bad defense, that doesn't bode well.

-The play calling only got better after the entire first half had gone by. We were lucky Idaho State missed a field goal and their WR dropped a TD pass in the first half, could have easily been 17-7. Taking a whole half of football to finally change things up from the NAU game is way to long.

-With how we have looked overall this and past seasons (last 2 in particular) and with the upcoming schedule it's safe to that it's absolutely time for a regime change. In 6 years we have only 1 win vs MSU, multiple 4th or worse finishes in the Big Sky, early Playoff exits and in the last 2 seasons clear regression on both sides of the football, in particular horrible offensive play calling and hires.

Seems pretty clear he wasn't far off the mark with all of his points.

Nope. UM's rushing game averaged about 4.4 yards per carry, and over over 200 yards of rushing. Yards lost on sacks go into the stats, but those 31 yards of loss are not part of rushing. Almost everyone, including some knowledgeable posters, are saying the rush game looked pretty good. Especially the first drive and second half.

Almost all the knowledgeable posters are saying play-calling was improved or pretty good.

UM has been ranked nos. 6, 6 and 14 in the nation post-season in the past 3 years. Has made the playoffs each of those years and won a game each year. Has, I believe, the 3d ( or 4th) longest streak for being ranked in the top 25. Has an average post-season rank in the past 3 seasons, better than all but 3 FCS teams.

UM has a very good coaching staff. Feel free to run through the coaches, on by one, telling us how they are bad coaches and why.

You don't know enough about football to evaluate play-calling.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
No he wasn't, you however are off on quite a few:

-BWhalberg pointed this out: "The Griz rushing game averaged 3.4 yards per carry against a team that was allowing an average of almost 6 yards per carry before." So no the O-Line didn't play well, being better then how they played vs NAU is a VERY, I mean VERY low bar to beat. We couldn't run on a bad defense, that doesn't bode well.

-The play calling only got better after the entire first half had gone by. We were lucky Idaho State missed a field goal and their WR dropped a TD pass in the first half, could have easily been 17-7. Taking a whole half of football to finally change things up from the NAU game is way to long.

-With how we have looked overall this and past seasons (last 2 in particular) and with the upcoming schedule it's safe to that it's absolutely time for a regime change. In 6 years we have only 1 win vs MSU, multiple 4th or worse finishes in the Big Sky, early Playoff exits and in the last 2 seasons clear regression on both sides of the football, in particular horrible offensive play calling and hires.

Seems pretty clear he wasn't far off the mark with all of his points.

Nope. UM's rushing game averaged about 4.4 yards per carry, and over over 200 yards of rushing. Yards lost on sacks go into the stats, but those 31 yards of loss are not part of rushing. Almost everyone, including some knowledgeable posters, are saying the rush game looked pretty good. Especially the first drive and second half.

Almost all the knowledgeable posters are saying play-calling was improved or pretty good.

UM has been ranked nos. 6, 6 and 14 in the nation post-season in the past 3 years. Has made the playoffs each of those years and won a game each year. Has, I believe, the 3d ( or 4th) longest streak for being ranked in the top 25. Has an average post-season rank in the past 3 seasons, better than all but 3 FCS teams.

UM has a very good coaching staff. Feel free to run through the coaches, on by one, telling us how they are bad coaches and why.

You don't know enough about football to evaluate play-calling.

No we don't have a good coaching staff, we'll be lucky to win 5 games this year with some of the worst O-Line and offensive play calling (improving from garbage to terrible still means youre terrible). Frankly you're to biased an individual to have an objective opinion about this program, and FYI you screaming/claiming people don't know what they're talking about over and over doesn't magically make it true.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
mthoopsfan said:
Nope. UM's rushing game averaged about 4.4 yards per carry, and over over 200 yards of rushing. Yards lost on sacks go into the stats, but those 31 yards of loss are not part of rushing. Almost everyone, including some knowledgeable posters, are saying the rush game looked pretty good. Especially the first drive and second half.

Almost all the knowledgeable posters are saying play-calling was improved or pretty good.

UM has been ranked nos. 6, 6 and 14 in the nation post-season in the past 3 years. Has made the playoffs each of those years and won a game each year. Has, I believe, the 3d ( or 4th) longest streak for being ranked in the top 25. Has an average post-season rank in the past 3 seasons, better than all but 3 FCS teams.

UM has a very good coaching staff. Feel free to run through the coaches, on by one, telling us how they are bad coaches and why.

You don't know enough about football to evaluate play-calling.

No we don't have a good coaching staff, we'll be lucky to win 5 games this year with some of the worst O-Line and offensive play calling (improving from garbage to terrible still means youre terrible). Frankly you're to biased an individual to have an objective opinion about this program and once again wrong.

How much do you want to bet that the Griz win more than 5 games?
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
No we don't have a good coaching staff, we'll be lucky to win 5 games this year with some of the worst O-Line and offensive play calling (improving from garbage to terrible still means youre terrible). Frankly you're to biased an individual to have an objective opinion about this program and once again wrong.

How much do you want to bet that the Griz win more than 5 games?

Don't have the money to put towards gambling at the moment, have medical bills to deal with. Flexing money or demanding a bet won't change nor invalidate my accurate points about the state of this program. $$ doesn't magically = being right.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ut-Grizfan said:
No we don't have a good coaching staff, we'll be lucky to win 5 games this year with some of the worst O-Line and offensive play calling (improving from garbage to terrible still means youre terrible). Frankly you're to biased an individual to have an objective opinion about this program and once again wrong.

How much do you want to bet that the Griz win more than 5 games?
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I’ll bet $500 the Griz don’t make it to 7 wins.
 
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