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Corey Widmer declines Montana Football Hall of Fame
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SoldierGriz said:
Note what Sam said just right above this.. prevention, training, etc are much better now than it used to be. Some risks are being mitigated much more now than ever before. Football, in theory, is much safer now than it used to be.
MrTitleist said:
Agree - progress made. The Army and the NFL have actually worked extensively on the topic of concussions and traumatic brain injuries. I hope Widmer is OK and finds peace.
I went to high school with a great kid, one of the brightest in our class, who received a concussion when he was a junior. His academics were never the same and he never quite reached the potential he had. I think of him often whenever I hear the talking heads on tv saying "great hit" or, "good no call" and I don't respond but something in me wants to speak out for the many who did not know what we know now.
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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GrizLA said:
Based upon many of your prior posts, I'd simply dismissed you as an individual with an inflated sense of self-worth; i.e., an egotistical pos, but this post lent a bit or rational reasoning to your tone. After over 40 years of involvement in this game, having watched a high school kid break his neck and spend the remainder of his life in a wheelchair before passing, I've wondered on a daily basis if I would allow my children, if I had it to do over again, to play this game. I love it so much and at times I wonder if I hurt and can't sleep at night is because of the crap I endured in the military or this great game. In all honesty, I don't think I would allow my kids to play football, even with all the safety precautions being implemented. In fact, I believe I'd rather they learn to box.
SoldierGriz said:
The Army is doing interesting stuff with concussions and research. They're investing a lot of money in it as they're on the hook for their solders' medical bills after discharge and you know a lot of guys come back and their brains are potentially scrambled from a variety of things that happen in a combat zone.
i_the_sky said:Kinda silly, really? This deal was made up so Bozeman could actually have a minuscule hall of fame to go to and like these runny nosed kids marching in the streets it will be forgotten by this time next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bozeman is a "PRETETIOUS"place!
First of all, "pretetious" is not a word.
Secondly, there were at least as many Griz greats there as Bobcats. Maybe more. I agree that Widmer has every right to decline an award without judgment and criticism. Nobody knows what he's been through.
Anyone consider the fact that stepping up and accepting an induction into the MT Football HOF would very negatively affect his lawsuits against the NCAA and NFL? Surely his attorney advised against it.
horribilisfan8184
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GGNez said:i_the_sky said:Kinda silly, really? This deal was made up so Bozeman could actually have a minuscule hall of fame to go to and like these runny nosed kids marching in the streets it will be forgotten by this time next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bozeman is a "PRETETIOUS"place!
First of all, "pretetious" is not a word.
Secondly, there were at least as many Griz greats there as Bobcats. Maybe more. I agree that Widmer has every right to decline an award without judgment and criticism. Nobody knows what he's been through.
Anyone consider the fact that stepping up and accepting an induction into the MT Football HOF would very negatively affect his lawsuits against the NCAA and NFL? Surely his attorney advised against it.
Bingo! Give this lady a fine cigar. Make it a Partagas Series P No. 2. (now that you can import them from Cuba for person use
Always follow the money, folks.
polsongrizz
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As usual on this board, attack everyone with your brain dead whiny bitching.
BadlandsGrizFan
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Why does anyone care about this...his life..his decision.
horribilisfan8184
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grizband said:
The condition now known as CTE was discovered/diagnosed/recognized in boxers in the 1920's. http://www.protectthebrain.org/Brain-Injury-Research/Dementia-Pugilistica.aspx
The Longest Yard and North Dallas Forty featured bell-rung blithering characters back in 1974 and 1979. It used to be a well known component of the game. Been going on in other high impact sports like rugby just as long. Grandma didn't have a CT scanner but she knew enough to warn you too many hits could leave you a drooling idiot. You know, back when people used common sense.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ex-giant-corey-widmer-declines-montana-football-hall-of-fame/ar-BBKJia4?li=BBnb7Kz
Sam A. Blitz
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horribilisfan8184 said:
The prevention and handling of concussions is much different than it was 15 years ago. Talking to old timers, it wasn't handled hardly at all back when Widmer played...
Kem & PR, do you remember any concussion protocol besides how many fingers am I holding up and what's your name?
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I found it interesting that he said at 14, if he knew what he knows now, or if the risks had been explained to him he would give it all back (the money, the fame) Not an exact quote, you can read the article but that's what I got out of it.
As mentioned, we do know so much more now about prevention and protection and awareness than we did when he first started playing football. So at the very least a young athlete can weigh the information and make a choice.
With that said at 14 you don't always make the best decisions. You're invincible, money and fame may seem more important than it turns out to be in the long run. In hindsight, yes, he would have turned it all away but at the time would he have really or continued on the path he ultimately chose?
I know at 14, I made some choices I regret, and at 18 and 22....and yesterday, but at the time that's what I did and I certainly thought I was making the right decision regardless of what others were telling me.
As mentioned, we do know so much more now about prevention and protection and awareness than we did when he first started playing football. So at the very least a young athlete can weigh the information and make a choice.
With that said at 14 you don't always make the best decisions. You're invincible, money and fame may seem more important than it turns out to be in the long run. In hindsight, yes, he would have turned it all away but at the time would he have really or continued on the path he ultimately chose?
I know at 14, I made some choices I regret, and at 18 and 22....and yesterday, but at the time that's what I did and I certainly thought I was making the right decision regardless of what others were telling me.
