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CONGRATS ZAGS!

Wow...what a team. The Underrated Gonzaga Bulldogs pulled out a tight one against the their 11-16 conference foe the
San Francisco Dons. They did in heartbreaking fashion on a last second three by some guy with 9 names. This team is pathetic. They also had two plays on ESPN's top plays. One block by the most overrated center in the WORLD and then some garbage shot by Morrison(the leading scorer in the nation). I love this stuff...they are 5th in the nation and basically guaranteed no lower than a 2 seed. It is gonna be so fun to watch these guys waltz into the NCAA's and watch some 15 seed mop the floor with Teddy Pendergrafts head. The botom of the barrel big ten, ACC, and Big East teams would go undefeated in the WCC every year. I am so sick of hearing about these scrubs. Lets get the first round underway so we can send them home and be done with em.
 
They seem to play up (or down) to their opponents abilities. You see their early schedule? :finger:
 
They do play up or down to the competition. It would almost be better for them to go in as a 5-6 seed and have to play a better team to start. They are a good mid major, but I dont see them making much noise in the Dance. I will be cheering for them.
 
realitycheck said:
Wow...what a team. The Underrated Gonzaga Bulldogs pulled out a tight one against the their 11-16 conference foe the
San Francisco Dons. They did in heartbreaking fashion on a last second three by some guy with 9 names. This team is pathetic. They also had two plays on ESPN's top plays. One block by the most overrated center in the WORLD and then some garbage shot by Morrison(the leading scorer in the nation). I love this stuff...they are 5th in the nation and basically guaranteed no lower than a 2 seed. It is gonna be so fun to watch these guys waltz into the NCAA's and watch some 15 seed mop the floor with Teddy Pendergrafts head. The botom of the barrel big ten, ACC, and Big East teams would go undefeated in the WCC every year. I am so sick of hearing about these scrubs. Lets get the first round underway so we can send them home and be done with em.

I have come to realize that they are not "overrated" but more "overhyped"

I have said my bit about Gonzaga so I will refrain from 3 paragraphs of hate this time!!!

Go Zags!
 
I've been saying this all along. The Zags are in danger of losing in the first round to a 15 seed.

USF has lost to...

UCSB (by 23)
Sac State (by 7)
NAU (by 4)

I am praying that the big sky team that gets into the tourney will play Gonzaga.
 
The botom of the barrel big ten, ACC, and Big East teams would go undefeated in the WCC every year.

With all of your other baseless claims aside, Lets look at this one:

I really hope you mean that these teams would go undefeated in the WCC GIVEN that GU was not in the WCC. If you think that bottom feeders from better conferences could go undefeated in WCC play with GU being in the WCC, then you are just not that bright.

Now, if the former is the case, you are only slighlty less off base.

Bottom of the ACC: Wake @ 2-12 (14-14)
Bottom of the Big Ten: Northwestern@ 5-9 (13-13)
Purdue@ 3-11 (9-16)
Bottom of the Big East: Depaul@ 4-10 (11-14)
South Florida@ 0-14 (6-21)

These teams's collective losses include the likes of: Bradley, NIU, Old Dominion, FL-Int'l, TX A&M-Crp Christi, Bethune-Cookman, UAB, FSU, Miami, Xavier, Evansville, Loyola-Chicago, Iliionois-Chicago, and UNC Wilmington. Granted that one loss to a bad team does not make a team bad, but c'mon man!

The bottom line is: The WCC is not as bad as some people think. And most likely could not be gone through undefeated EVERY YEAR by the teams you have mentioned. GU's OOC schedule and wins speak for themselves. Hate it or love it, GU is a great team, nobody can deny that using concrete evidence.
 
People keep saying how Gonzaga barely wins some games. Well guess what, so does Duke, U Conn, and any college or pro team you can name. The fact is, they get it done. Gonzaga has had key players injured this season, yet they win. They have won when Morrison has 40 and when he has 11. If they are a one man team how could that happen?

I am not predicting Gonzaga to win the NCAA Championship, but don't be surprised if they win a couple games in post season. They have better talent than you think, and they get great coaching.

I hate to say it, but there is truly some Gonzaga envy on this board.
 
Gonzaga lost by 3 or 4 to UConn, maybe it was even a 2-point game. I agree with the playing to the level of the competition theory. I watched them go 2 overtimes with Michigan State and win in one of the best college games I have ever seen. I think both teams were like 25-27 from the free throw line.

I think they will make a solid run in the NCAAs.
 
The Zags are a bit of an anomaly. Those above who said that they play with the level of their competition couldn't be more right, but that's exceptionally dangerous ground for a team to get comfortable on. And from what I've seen lately, Gonzaga is getting too comfortable there. The LMU game last week was closer than the score let on, and almost blowing it to USF... those are not very good teams, especially not teams that should be challenging the vaunted Bulldogs. They're due to collapse lpaying like this, and it'llhappen at a very bad time for them. I honestly believe that if the Griz and Zags were to meet up in the tourney, that the Griz would pull it off. Other Big Sky teams, I'm not so sure, but if it's Montana/Gonzaga in the first round, I'm putting the Griz going on to the second.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
People keep saying how Gonzaga barely wins some games. Well guess what, so does Duke, U Conn, and any college or pro team you can name. The fact is, they get it done. Gonzaga has had key players injured this season, yet they win. They have won when Morrison has 40 and when he has 11. If they are a one man team how could that happen?

I am not predicting Gonzaga to win the NCAA Championship, but don't be surprised if they win a couple games in post season. They have better talent than you think, and they get great coaching.

I hate to say it, but there is truly some Gonzaga envy on this board.
:agree2:
 
1GRIZ said:
The Zags are a bit of an anomaly. Those above who said that they play with the level of their competition couldn't be more right, but that's exceptionally dangerous ground for a team to get comfortable on. And from what I've seen lately, Gonzaga is getting too comfortable there. The LMU game last week was closer than the score let on, and almost blowing it to USF... those are not very good teams, especially not teams that should be challenging the vaunted Bulldogs. They're due to collapse lpaying like this, and it'llhappen at a very bad time for them. I honestly believe that if the Griz and Zags were to meet up in the tourney, that the Griz would pull it off. Other Big Sky teams, I'm not so sure, but if it's Montana/Gonzaga in the first round, I'm putting the Griz going on to the second.

At first glance this made sense to me, but upon further review....

You say Gonzaga is getting too comfortable lately, do they have a choice who they are playing. I can tell you right now the Zags would rather be playing the best in the country. These guys live for the big game, as evidenced by their record in big games. How hard must it be for them to "get up" for USF. The biggest excitement has got to be what nasty cheers the oppossing team comes up with to harass AM with. They rag on him the entire game then beg him for an autograph afterwards.

As for the Griz taking it the Zags if the meet, I would never bet against my Griz. But I will say this, it is going to take our BEST effort of the year and we will not beat them if we think all we have to do is slow down AM.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
1GRIZ said:
The Zags are a bit of an anomaly. Those above who said that they play with the level of their competition couldn't be more right, but that's exceptionally dangerous ground for a team to get comfortable on. And from what I've seen lately, Gonzaga is getting too comfortable there. The LMU game last week was closer than the score let on, and almost blowing it to USF... those are not very good teams, especially not teams that should be challenging the vaunted Bulldogs. They're due to collapse lpaying like this, and it'llhappen at a very bad time for them. I honestly believe that if the Griz and Zags were to meet up in the tourney, that the Griz would pull it off. Other Big Sky teams, I'm not so sure, but if it's Montana/Gonzaga in the first round, I'm putting the Griz going on to the second.

At first glance this made sense to me, but upon further review....

You say Gonzaga is getting too comfortable lately, do they have a choice who they are playing. I can tell you right now the Zags would rather be playing the best in the country. These guys live for the big game, as evidenced by their record in big games. How hard must it be for them to "get up" for USF. The biggest excitement has got to be what nasty cheers the oppossing team comes up with to harass AM with. They rag on him the entire game then beg him for an autograph afterwards.

As for the Griz taking it the Zags if the meet, I would never bet against my Griz. But I will say this, it is going to take our BEST effort of the year and we will not beat them if we think all we have to do is slow down AM.

Forgive me, as my post lacked clarity. What I meant by comfortable is that they are definately getting too good at playing close with the weaker teams that they are coming across. I completely agree with you that they would much rather be playing the best in the nation... they'd have to in order to be ready for later rounds in the tournament. But as far as the Griz beating them, should it all work out so that they match up, it's not quite as complicated as it seems. Obviously it would take a hell of an effort from our guys, but keep a few very important things in mind: it's a Grizzly team who's core played in the tournament last year and will remember the shock and bright lights that plagued them in the first 3:30 of the Huskies game; Krysco will be a little more ready for the pressures of coaching in the tourney, and will likely not make the mistake of having a hard practice (harder than usual day-before practices) the day before the game as he did last year. Not that this had much effect on the energy that the Griz brought to the game, but it did cost us Seyfert. And finally... we're due to take one from the Zags.
 
When you're Gonzaga--or any top team--you can bet that you have a target on your back as far as your opponent is concerned. Teams with mediocre records can salvage their season by being able to say "but we beat Gonzaga!!". They are going to be ready to play whether you are or not.

The other thing that happens is that teams get better as the season wears on. Particularly a team with some young players can get things figured out about now and be quite formidable. Example Portland State (who we may be seeing again in flagstaff)---doesn't matter what the season won/loss record is, you better show up to play or you'll be back home in a hurry.

I watched Carroll play Rocky last weekend and they survived with a buzzer beater. Carroll actually played pretty well, but Rocky came on strong with some good, young players and played far better than their season record would indicate. If you run into a team like that in the tournament, your season may be over well before you planned for it to be.
 
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