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Conference Tournament to Las Vegas?

'68griz said:
Buttegrizzle said:
TrueGriz said:
'68griz said:
Then why are the Mountain West and Pac-12 tourneys both held in Vegas?????????

Those would be mountain west and pac-12 sponsored events, not ncaa. the fbs championship game is a ncaa sponsored game.

Good point True Griz.
Okay, I understand -- it doesn't have to make sense.


Of course it doesn't make sense, we're talking about the NCAA/derp.
 
Actually the new FBS football championship game/playoff is not NCAA sponsored. It is controlled by a separate group and the NCAA only sanctions it and has nothing to do with running it or profits at all. Just like the BCS before it the FBS schools have totally cut the NCAA out of postseason bowls and playoffs.
 
Sounds like it will very likely be moving to Vegas:

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I would favor Reno because BSC would not be competing against WCC, Pac12, WAC for hotel space and hotel deals. Also Reno is closer to every BSC school other than NAU and SUU.
 
sacstateman said:
I would favor Reno because BSC would not be competing against WCC, Pac12, WAC for hotel space and hotel deals. Also Reno is closer to every BSC school other than NAU and SUU.
Reno has much more limited connections to Big Sky cities, unless one is using a car from Sacramento, which doesn't have a fan base.

Allegiant flies to most Big Sky locales and is affordable. Place like Cedar City, Flagstaff, and Sacramento are drivable. Hotel space and deals? Las Vegas will be barraging Big Sky sports with hotel and car deals. In March, it wants the traffic.
 
GrizLA said:
'68griz said:
I'm sure some people would LOVE the tourney in Vegas. But, 1) I like the idea of rewarding the conference champ with home court advantage, and 2) I strongly dislike the idea of having the tourney somewhere that has no relationship at all to the conference. JMHO
If the Big Sky conference think attendance at the tournament games held on campus is lacking, just what could they expect in Las Vegas? Would anyone be there? I don't think so..

Exactly. Attendance would be a joke. I hope this is just a rumor.
 
Reading Foolerton's comments in the Missoulian, it doesn't sound like attendance is the concern. It sounds like the schools are concerned about their own travel costs and don't really give a crap if there are fans at the tourneyment. And this is why the Big Sky Conference is terrible. When the cost of travel for basketball, one of the smallest traveling contingents a school has, is just too expensive for conference members, you know you're hanging with the wrong crowd.
 
griz4life said:
Reading Foolerton's comments in the Missoulian, it doesn't sound like attendance is the concern. It sounds like the schools are concerned about their own travel costs and don't really give a crap if there are fans at the tourneyment. And this is why the Big Sky Conference is terrible. When the cost of travel for basketball, one of the smallest traveling contingents a school has, is just too expensive for conference members, you know you're hanging with the wrong crowd.


THIS!!!!!
 
Zags fans seem to like the Las Vegas tournement option. I have a lifetime goal of never setting foot in Vegas, so I'll have to pass, but I'm sure others would love some nice weather that time of year.
 
One of the things Ido like about the potential change is the "fixed date" of the tourney. While March is not necessarily a good time to visit Vegas because of the weather, it beats most places. I would never just drop everything and fly to Ogden just because the Griz are playing but with eight teams, and a fixed site with a fixed date of competition, I would consider Las Vegas since there are so many other things to do while Portland State is playing Northern Colorado to a near empty house. Other conferences seem to do ok with this, and bring their bands and pep squads and fans that can only add to a college game. So, maybe, even though I doubt it will happen, this might be a good gamble. It would also give the SoCal and Arizona high school kids a better picture. I think the women's programs should coincide as well...
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Zags fans seem to like the Las Vegas tournement option. I have a lifetime goal of never setting foot in Vegas, so I'll have to pass, but I'm sure others would love some nice weather that time of year.
I'm with you, AWF. I think moving the tourney to Vegas is wrong, wrong, wrong ... no connection whatsoever to the BSC and no "reward" to the regular season champ.
 
'68griz said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Zags fans seem to like the Las Vegas tournement option. I have a lifetime goal of never setting foot in Vegas, so I'll have to pass, but I'm sure others would love some nice weather that time of year.
I'm with you, AWF. I think moving the tourney to Vegas is wrong, wrong, wrong ... no connection whatsoever to the BSC and no "reward" to the regular season champ.

Yup. Instead of the possibility of having the Big Sky Champ hosting with a couple thousand fans in attendance during the tournament, there will be probably a couple hundred fans attending the tournament if held in Vegas. :?
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Zags fans seem to like the Las Vegas tournement option. I have a lifetime goal of never setting foot in Vegas, so I'll have to pass, but I'm sure others would love some nice weather that time of year.


Zag fans love it because 9 years out of ten, they're going to the Dance even if they lose in the first round of their tournament. Obviously, that ain't so with the BSC.

No reward for the regular season? NO way.
 
i'm coming around to this idea, but for selfish reasons. as la says, i can't fly to missoula or ogden on short notice, but i could to las vegas on a fixed date. so the conference would be adding at least two--and i am loud.

question is, what's the regular-season incentive? first you were playing for the chance to go straight to the ncaa's. then you were playing for home court, a huge advantage in getting to the dance. seedings, sure, but the plum was homecourt advantage. doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

reno? nah! just ain't interesting.
 
doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

Yes.

And if I'm a BSC coach, I coast the first 2/3 of the season to prepare for the conference tournament. Who cares if I'm 1-24 as long as I win the last 3 games of the year.


DUMB!
 
citay said:
i'm coming around to this idea, but for selfish reasons. as la says, i can't fly to missoula or ogden on short notice, but i could to las vegas on a fixed date. so the conference would be adding at least two--and i am loud.

question is, what's the regular-season incentive? first you were playing for the chance to go straight to the ncaa's. then you were playing for home court, a huge advantage in getting to the dance. seedings, sure, but the plum was homecourt advantage. doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

reno? nah! just ain't interesting.

The only way I would even like having the tournament played on a neutral court is if the Big Sky regular season champion got an automatic bid into the Dance. But that won't ever happen because if that were the scenario, there wouldn't need to be a tournament because the NCAA will never take two teams from a bad Big Sky Basketball conference.
 
EverettGriz said:
doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

Yes.

And if I'm a BSC coach, I coast the first 2/3 of the season to prepare for the conference tournament. Who cares if I'm 1-24 as long as I win the last 3 games of the year.


DUMB!
speaking of dumb, couldn't that apply to most conferences? The NCAA created the "play in" for teams that are questionably competitive.
 
GrizLA said:
EverettGriz said:
doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

Yes.

And if I'm a BSC coach, I coast the first 2/3 of the season to prepare for the conference tournament. Who cares if I'm 1-24 as long as I win the last 3 games of the year.


DUMB!
speaking of dumb, couldn't that apply to most conferences? The NCAA created the "play in" for teams that are questionably competitive.

Mmmmm, I'm not sure I understand.

Anyone who wins their conference deserves to go. Personally, I hate tournaments and would do away with all of them, but greed prevents that. So in a one-bid league like the BSC, you should do all you can to protect your best team.
 
EverettGriz said:
GrizLA said:
EverettGriz said:
doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

Yes.

And if I'm a BSC coach, I coast the first 2/3 of the season to prepare for the conference tournament. Who cares if I'm 1-24 as long as I win the last 3 games of the year.


DUMB!
speaking of dumb, couldn't that apply to most conferences? The NCAA created the "play in" for teams that are questionably competitive.

Mmmmm, I'm not sure I understand.

Anyone who wins their conference deserves to go. Personally, I hate tournaments and would do away with all of them, but greed prevents that. So in a one-bid league like the BSC, you should do all you can to protect your best team.
Great post, EG!!
 
EverettGriz said:
doesn't that make the regular season rather meaningless?

Yes.

And if I'm a BSC coach, I coast the first 2/3 of the season to prepare for the conference tournament. Who cares if I'm 1-24 as long as I win the last 3 games of the year.


DUMB!



With the top eight only going to the tourney your 1-24 team is staying home...... I know that was an over the top reaction but no team that goes 1-24 is ever going to win three in a row at the end of a season
 
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