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Complete Quarterbacking book

uofmman1122 said:
SoldierGriz said:
Some of those sacks WERE designed runs...TFL. That makes it even worse.
Designed runs aren't counted as sacks in the stats. If it's a designed run, it's credited as a rush for a loss. Brown had 4 recorded sacks and 1 play where the ball went over his head. He had one other run that was credited as a loss rush.

So, 8 rushes. Ostmo 10. Seems reasonable to have 8 plays designed for KB to run the ball. 8/58 plays or 14 percent of plays run. Crazy.
 
SoldierGriz said:
uofmman1122 said:
Designed runs aren't counted as sacks in the stats. If it's a designed run, it's credited as a rush for a loss. Brown had 4 recorded sacks and 1 play where the ball went over his head. He had one other run that was credited as a loss rush.

So, 8 rushes. Ostmo 10. Seems reasonable to have 8 plays designed for KB to run the ball. 8/58 plays or 14 percent of plays run. Crazy.
Was curious, so I checked ESPN+. 6, actually. All of them read options.

The rest of his rushes came on either sacks or scrambles on passing plays.

Not to mention our only TD the entire day came from one of those designed runs.

So yeah, maybe criticize the use of read option, but 23 of our total plays were trying to run that Kris Brown passing concepts offense, and we netted 40 yards of offense on those plays.
 
uofmman1122 said:
SoldierGriz said:
So, 8 rushes. Ostmo 10. Seems reasonable to have 8 plays designed for KB to run the ball. 8/58 plays or 14 percent of plays run. Crazy.
Was curious, so I checked ESPN+. 6, actually. All of them read options.

The rest of his rushes came on either sacks or scrambles on passing plays.

Not to mention our only TD the entire day came from one of those designed runs.

So yeah, maybe criticize the use of read option, but 23 of our total plays were trying to run that Kris Brown passing concepts offense, and we netted 40 yards of offense on those plays.

Ugh. I just have no friggin idea what they should be doing. That's not news. But, why does it seem like the coaching staff also has no idea. Maybe that was the absolute best game plan they could muster for KB.
 
SoldierGriz said:
uofmman1122 said:
Was curious, so I checked ESPN+. 6, actually. All of them read options.

The rest of his rushes came on either sacks or scrambles on passing plays.

Not to mention our only TD the entire day came from one of those designed runs.

So yeah, maybe criticize the use of read option, but 23 of our total plays were trying to run that Kris Brown passing concepts offense, and we netted 40 yards of offense on those plays.

Ugh. I just have no friggin idea what they should be doing. That's not news. But, why does it seem like the coaching staff also has no idea. Maybe that was the absolute best game plan they could muster for KB.

I am not going to say that the Griz offensive scheme isn't frustrating and leaves so much to be desired, but the play of KB does them exactly zero favors. He is limited as a passer, and I have no idea why people think his strength is throwing deep (take a look at the Sac game), his decision making is poor and slow to boot, and he add nothing with his legs.
 
SoldierGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I have no idea what Timmy wants to run. I know that Bobby has a philosophy of what he wants, and Timmy stays within that. I would also assume that Timmy calls plays that he is comfortable with depending on whom is behind center.

Like speed option, RPO, and designed QB runs with KB. Those types of comfortable plays?
This is exactly right. Brown just shouldn't be put in these positions. He can hit the crossing and timing routes. We have a receivers that are hard to handle in the open field. Put the kid in a position to succeed.
 
indian-outlaw said:
SoldierGriz said:
Like speed option, RPO, and designed QB runs with KB. Those types of comfortable plays?
This is exactly right. Brown just shouldn't be put in these positions. He can hit the crossing and timing routes. We have a receivers that are hard to handle in the open field. Put the kid in a position to succeed.
It doesn't take a defense long to adjust to those limitations.
 
kemajic said:
indian-outlaw said:
This is exactly right. Brown just shouldn't be put in these positions. He can hit the crossing and timing routes. We have a receivers that are hard to handle in the open field. Put the kid in a position to succeed.
It doesn't take a defense long to adjust to those limitations.
Ok bright guy, so your suggestion is to keep running the RPO with this guy?
 
indian-outlaw said:
kemajic said:
It doesn't take a defense long to adjust to those limitations.
Ok bright guy, so your suggestion is to keep running the RPO with this guy?

No, his suggestion is to run it with a DIFFERENT guy. Who doesn’t have those limitations.
 
AZGrizFan said:
indian-outlaw said:
Ok bright guy, so your suggestion is to keep running the RPO with this guy?

No, his suggestion is to run it with a DIFFERENT guy. Who doesn’t have those limitations.
Oh I see, the Tommy touchdown that we currently have on our roster.
 
The team leader needs to know exactly what is happening on the line of scrimmage, who can get open to catch a pass, and who is in position to run the ball. He needs to be able to read the defense and react accordingly. He must be a team motivator and effective communicator, and he must be able to withstand the physical and mental pressures of this most prestigious position. Complete Quarterbacking gives you all that information and more.

In addition to thorough descriptions and diagrams on how to recognize and react to the opponent's coverage in run and pass situations, this book covers game preparation as well as the fine details of clock management. You'll get the detailed advice you need to run more organized practices and create a more dynamic offense. Complete Quarterbacking also covers performance evaluation and off-season development so that you can be confident your quarterback is performing to the best of his ability.

Coach Read earned his stripes building athletic programs for the University of Montana, Portland State, the University of Oregon, and Oregon Tech. Now you can learn from his unique insights as Read lays out a comprehensive plan of attack to take quarterback performance to a higher level.

This is my point I'm trying to make. This coaching staff does not effectively instruct our quarterbacks how to do this and to me its frustrating as hell to at least not try.
 
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.
 
BillingsMafia said:
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.

Yeah if you go back and look at Montana’s football program, the main problem is they don’t ever have good QB’s :lol:

Are you listening to yourself?
 
AZGrizFan said:
indian-outlaw said:
Oh I see, the Tommy touchdown that we currently have on our roster.

Guess we will never know.

I don’t disagree what you are getting at with Britt. We need to see. But he is NOT Tommy Mellott, he’s a big time athlete. Hate to break the news to guys who don’t see them in high school but Tommy is a real dude
 
BillingsMafia said:
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.

The stupid is just flowing.
 
BillingsMafia said:
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.

There are so many Dave Dickenson’s just wandering around central Montana. Same with Marc Mariani’s, Chase Reynold’s and Colt Anderson’s. Hauck is just so dumb he won’t go after them. Hope I’m wrong.
 
BillingsMafia said:
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.

Are you trying to be funny, or are you just plain stupid?
 
BillingsMafia said:
I really believe if DD were on this team he would be number 4 on the depth chart and would never see the field. Bobby's qb has to have the look, that's what is important. If not then you sit. Everyone here knows Bobby's main recruiting goal is going to be to bring in another 9th year senior. I'm so over this guy.

Sorry have to comment again…

There’s no way you are serious. Have you ever met Bobby Hauck? You have never spent more than 10 minutes in your life with Hauck or anyone clearly.
 
WaGriz4life said:
AZGrizFan said:
Guess we will never know.

I don’t disagree what you are getting at with Britt. We need to see. But he is NOT Tommy Mellott, he’s a big time athlete. Hate to break the news to guys who don’t see them in high school but Tommy is a real dude

Who is disputing that?
 
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