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Combined record of the teams the Griz beat: (15-40)

spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
Yes, I fully understand what losing is. However, it looks like you don't understand what being a pretty good team, and being close to being a good team, is. You obviously don't understand sport. You associate losing with losers, and winning with winners. Very different things. Please don't tell us that you learned sport from watching soccer.


Winning is everything, and losing is for losers, fairly simple concept, it appear you got the losing down pat, not sure if you know anything about winning.

Nope. Winning is important, and it's lots of fun, but winning is certainly not everything. And losing is not for losers. Not in sport; not in life. In my view, people with views like yous, i.e. "winning is everything" are actually losers.


You view is about as credible as any looser, why play the game if not to win.

Playing to win is not the same as "winning is everythig". It's clear you never played sports at any level. Keep up your dumb statements. It shows your lack of knowledge of sports. Were you a winner or "looser" in spelling?
 
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
Winning is everything, and losing is for losers, fairly simple concept, it appear you got the losing down pat, not sure if you know anything about winning.

Nope. Winning is important, and it's lots of fun, but winning is certainly not everything. And losing is not for losers. Not in sport; not in life. In my view, people with views like yous, i.e. "winning is everything" are actually losers.


You view is about as credible as any looser, why play the game if not to win.

Playing to win is not the same as "winning is everythig". It's clear you never played sports at any level. Keep up your dumb statements. It shows your lack of knowledge of sports.

What I have forgot, you still have not learn, and never will, being the loser you appear to be.
 
spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
Nope. Winning is important, and it's lots of fun, but winning is certainly not everything. And losing is not for losers. Not in sport; not in life. In my view, people with views like yous, i.e. "winning is everything" are actually losers.


You view is about as credible as any looser, why play the game if not to win.

Playing to win is not the same as "winning is everythig". It's clear you never played sports at any level. Keep up your dumb statements. It shows your lack of knowledge of sports.

What I have forgot, you still have not learn, and never will, being the loser you appear to be.

I'd be happy to put up my record in sports and life against yours anytime.
 
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
PlayerRep said:
spsyk said:
You view is about as credible as any looser, why play the game if not to win.

Playing to win is not the same as "winning is everythig". It's clear you never played sports at any level. Keep up your dumb statements. It shows your lack of knowledge of sports.

What I have forgot, you still have not learn, and never will, being the loser you appear to be.

I'd be happy to put up my record in sports and life against yours anytime.

I wouldn't want to be in a contest with a looser, I'm about winning.
 
PlayerRep said:
The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat. UM was in every game the whole season, except maybe NAU (and we easily could have beaten them too). Your stat is interesting, but virtually meaningless, in my view.


That's because it is an actual stat. It has meaning because it is a real number.

It is so hilarious that you count "teams UM almost beat." The fact of the matter (warning, this is a statistic) is that the Griz didn't beat those teams. That's the end of the story. You're just being a sugar coating moron trying to explain away a bad season. What's next, are you going to tell us that the Griz are the best 5-6 team in the nation?
 
PlayerRep said:
The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat. UM was in every game the whole season, except maybe NAU (and we easily could have beaten them too). Your stat is interesting, but virtually meaningless, in my view.
What is the statistician's definition of "almost beat"

Maybe we souldnt keep score, like they do in tee-ball :lol:


This one is going to be my sig on BN :lol: :lol: its priceless
 
It wouldn't be a sport if someone didn't lose................just don't accept it and don't get used to it! If someone thinks losing is acceptable at any level they haven't truely stepped between the lines. In my humble opinion being in the same category as the losers is not acceptable for The Montana Grizzlies. Thats where we ended up so whoever is in charge needs to make the necessary steps to remedy it or we fall into the "getting used to it " category. We will become what we have tried to avoid!
Haslam is the AD now.............is he a true AD or an Engstrom puppet!
 
If you want to go with almost then lets not forget we had a close win at weber(2-9) and at home trailled SD(1-10) in 2nd half.. Three 2 score losses at home
 
It's not as simple as wins and losses when evaluating the talent of a team. Gametime does present a very troubling stat and it is indicative of how good our team was this year, but you have to evaluate how we played in all the games. 10 points is the most we lost by this year and we had a chance in every game. We were never blown out and were never dominated (except our secondary in some games). Point is we do have the talent on this team to beat anybody and contend for a championship, we just need a few more pieces to accomplish that.

Delaney came into a tough situation with brand new coorinators, freshmen QB with no playing experience, new CBs, both OTs as new starters at that position, and just a flat out young overall team. I know you guys aren't used to this, but this is a rebuilding year and we are in the middle of a rebuilding effort. We will be a better team next year and will be in the playoffs again, likely with Delaney as HC.

I guarantee you this, Delaney isn't locked in his office feeling sorry for himself and reading posts on egriz from fans about his career decisions. He and his staff are working hard on recruiting, getting the players ready for the spring, and building a strategy for next year. There isn't time to bitch and moan and contemplate staying or going. The very best thing our AD can do is to do everything he can to help Delaney be succesful, encourage him to stay one more year and transition things over smoothly with plenty of time to perform a nationwide search for a head coach without any gaps or distractions.
 
Filthy McGrizzly said:
Ouch! That hurts I am searching for a silver lining in a sh#tstorm and you bring stats in!? Whats the combined for the teams that beat us?

Haha not much of a silver linining but we beat a conference co-champion (Liberty) by 20.

...............and lost 4 other games to co-champs (App St, NAU, EWU, MSU) by an average of 8 :?
 
Come on PlayerRep, Jack, the Dartmouth ivy league educated, not….. perhaps an All-american although a pure American football player. That till today still knows more about the game than anybody alive, and is not the least bit tolerant of those that he does not agree with.

Affirmative Action is not the same in sports as it is in education,……there are winners and there are losers, almost don't count, almost is the loser. Credit for almost is to disguise self-pity to move on to the next loss.

There is not a coach worth his salt, that would want a athlete that plays for almost, nor would he recruit such an athlete.

Now, about this season and these athletes that played for the Griz, they are not losers, they were let down by their leaders, games lost IMO were not….. lost by the ability of the athletes, although by the decisions of their leaders.

It is correct, that saying that coach Delaney was handed a bad deal, by another incompetent leader, Royce Engstrom, however, only Delaney knew for sure if he was up to the job, and after all all, Engstrom decision was predicated more on keeping the team on the straight and narrow, then winning football games. Incidentally coach Delaney failed at that also, not to say that I agree with that in fact, for I feel that no coach can be held responsible for the actions of an athlete off the field, however, determination of discipline of that action is compulsory, harsh and immediate depending on the infraction, from suspension to being remove from the team.

You are living in denial, if you believe that next years season will be any different, without making changes to leadership. Thanks to Royce Engstom decision, IMO the Griz program will suffer, from recruiting, to donations, to finding a new leadership after coach Delaney's contract expires. This is not what I am hoping for, although I'm not living in denial.


Back to my old pal Jack, the want-a-be Player Rep, when you played for Dartmouth, Mary Queen Of Heaven gammer school, coach by Sister Mary Grace Patricia, and which I was a winning athlete on, along with three female athletes, would have kick Dartmouth ass,because we were winners, not almost good.
 
If JJ is almost found Not Guilty will that be good enough for him? Maybe he will tell his attorneys how great they did for most of the trial....and but for the cross examination mistake they made he would have won the case and been found Not Guilty.
 
PlayerRep said:
The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat. UM was in every game the whole season, except maybe NAU (and we easily could have beaten them too). Your stat is interesting, but virtually meaningless, in my view.
Can you be more dense?
 
Gametime said:
As bad as everyone knows this season was, a look behind the numbers makes it even worse. The combined record of the teams the Griz actually beat was (15-40), a solid 37% winning record. Not one of them made the playoffs and only 1 (powerful Liberty) finished with a winning record.

1. South Dakota (1-10)
2. Liberty (6-5)
3. Northern Colorado (5-6)
4. Idaho State (1-10)
5. Weber State (2-9)

Awful!!!! Coach Delaney thanks for filling in under difficult circumstances, but do the right thing. Engstrom and Haslam, time to step up. The Ship is sinking, you need to make a move, and quickly. Recruiting season is critical and can be salvaged.

Go Griz???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
PlayerRep said:
The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat. UM was in every game the whole season, except maybe NAU (and we easily could have beaten them too). Your stat is interesting, but virtually meaningless, in my view.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda is what is meaningless. The stats show UM was capable only of beating poor teams and incapable of beating good teams.
 
Jerry Punch said:
What's next, are you going to tell us that the Griz are the best 5-6 team in the nation?


If I were a kitten fan, I would sure hope so...otherwise, the kittens performance against the Griz might suggest another early exit from the playoffs :shock:
 
mlbowl said:
Jerry Punch said:
What's next, are you going to tell us that the Griz are the best 5-6 team in the nation?


If I were a kitten fan, I would sure hope so...otherwise, the kittens performance against the Griz might suggest another early exit from the playoffs :shock:
They may not get past Nova.
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat. UM was in every game the whole season, except maybe NAU (and we easily could have beaten them too). Your stat is interesting, but virtually meaningless, in my view.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda is what is meaningless. The stats show UM was capable only of beating poor teams and incapable of beating good teams.

After Pflugrad's first year the combined record of teams we beat in 2010 was 19 and 36 (not counting Western States since they were a division lower). And that was with two seasoned senior QB's in Selle and Roper and Chase Reynolds returning at running back and two seniors on the O-line.

I am not real happy with this years results and especially with the way we lost games that we should have probably won. But look at what we went through in the off season, plus having to completly rebuild almost the entire defense and the offensive line, the QB situation and the overall youth of this years squad. The sky is not falling yet. GO Griz.
 
kemajic said:
mlbowl said:
Jerry Punch said:
What's next, are you going to tell us that the Griz are the best 5-6 team in the nation?


If I were a kitten fan, I would sure hope so...otherwise, the kittens performance against the Griz might suggest another early exit from the playoffs :shock:
They may not get past Nova.


And you two blowhards are one of the very few Griz fans who make me feel no sympathy for what your program is going through right now.
 
The really scary stat is that the Griz finished behind UNC in the final conference standings. Think about that.
 
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