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College basketball is in crisis and needs a change of pace

WaGriz4life said:
mtgrizrule said:
Part of the problem is that many United States players and coaches are so wrapped up in playing 100's of games each year on travel teams (AAU). Kobe Bryant is 100% right, many US born players don't take the time to fine touch the minor fundamentals with practice. Those fundamentals cannot be built playing game after game. Why do you think US colleges so heavily recruit internationally these days, especially in Europe and Australia? It is because those players are better fundamentally than many US born players these days.

I know a few families who have kids who love basketball. Their kids do play travel ball as well, but they do limit how often they travel. The parents require the kids to keep their grades up, and spend x amount of hours on individual practice working on their fundamentals. If their kids fall short in academics and individual fundamental practice, they don't let their kids travel. Basically travel ball is a 3rd priority. Kids really do need to spend more time working on their fundamentals beyond 3 point shooting and dunking.
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The AAU coaches are definately part of the problem, I agree. They can still harp on fundamentals while playing lots of games in the summer.......but they don't. They don't want to be real coaches because all they care about is being the "cool coach" that all the really good players want to play for. It absolutley blows my mind that some elite recruits get to college and don't even know how to shoot a basketball. Michael Kidd-Gilchrest comes to mind. Will Cherry also comes to mind. Winslow on Duke had a horrendous shot at the beginning of the year but made adjustments and was actually a decent shooter at the end of the year, but he and Cherry are an exception to the rule. If you aren't a good shooter in high school, you will never be a good shooter.
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I do agree. There are exceptions to the rule. I know Cherry busted ass to improve his perimeter and FT shooting. I had a Jamal Wilkes like perimeter shot through high school. Fortunately, I went to JC and balled with some better talent. Because of that, I did get some good coaching from the JC coaches. It took a lot of hours and actually starting back over in learning the right way to shoot. I finally got to be a pretty good perimeter shooter and scorer after high school. It helped also being stationed on a large Air Force Base, where the competition on base was damn good. I could hold my own. Unfortunately, handling the ball with my left hand never developed enough to allow me go further. I sure did get some great coaching after HS though. I wish I learned in my youth what I did after HS. Great coaching is a key and it is hard to find, especially when the better coaches in football state are coaching football. :thumb:
 
EverettGriz said:
Oh boy. More accommodations made to appease the video generation and their 7 second attention span.
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My thoughts, precisely. And then I listened to Jay Bilas on ESPN, praising the changes and telling us how much better college basketball was going to be in the future. I sort of wanted to puke.
 
Wait until you see the changes they are planning for women's basketball: four 10-minute quarters, backcourt timeouts advanced to the front court, over-five fouls a quarter leads to a two-shot bonus, etc. The women's game will more closely resemble the NBA than the men's game.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-women/article/2015-05-15/rules-committee-recommends-moving-womens-games-four-quarter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Bengal visitor said:
Wait until you see the changes they are planning for women's basketball: four 10-minute quarters, backcourt timeouts advanced to the front court, over-five fouls a quarter leads to a two-shot bonus, etc. The women's game will more closely resemble the NBA than the men's game.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-women/article/2015-05-15/rules-committee-recommends-moving-womens-games-four-quarter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Ugggggh
 
first11 said:
Didn't know gals game broken and needed a fix......
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Like the changes in the men's game, it's all about pace of play:

http://flatheadbeacon.com/2015/05/20/major-changes-afoot-for-college-womens-basketball/

“I think it’s positive they are trying to find ways to speed up the game. As it is, games tend to be too long with too many stoppages,” said Selvig, who will be coaching the Lady Griz for the 38th season next winter. “These changes should make it more fan-friendly."
 
I'm all for fewer timeouts. The end of games drag on forever between all of the media timeouts and regular timeouts. I'm also all for shortening the shot clock. I'm not advocating NBA style pace of play, but 35 seconds is just too much time. 30 seconds sounds about right.
 
The rule changes have been approved. Take effect this upcoming season.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13037928/ncaa-announces-rule-changes-2015-16-including-30-second-shot-clock-fewer-outs
 
With all the rule changes and officiating points of emphasis over the last decade, makes me wonder what the likes of Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic, Olajuwon, could have done in today's game?

I support the rule changes for better pace of play. I do hope, eventually officials will stop saving the out of control ball handlers, and give defenders the benefit of doubt on the bail out calls. I HATE that more than anything in both college and professional basketball. If a ball handler is out control and forcing crap like that, they don't deserve the call. I always swallowed my whistle on those kind of plays. A few coaches thanked me too, because it taught their ball players better offensive discipline.
 
mtgrizrule said:
With all the rule changes and officiating points of emphasis over the last decade, makes me wonder what the likes of Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic, Olajuwon, could have done in today's game?

I support the rule changes for better pace of play. I do hope, eventually officials will stop saving the out of control ball handlers, and give defenders the benefit of doubt on the bail out calls. I HATE that more than anything in both college and professional basketball. If a ball handler is out control and forcing crap like that, they don't deserve the call. I always swallowed my whistle on those kind of plays. A few coaches thanked me too, because it taught their ball players better offensive discipline.
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I agree. I like most of the rule changes, but am not sure about elimination of the 5-second rule when dribbling. I'm glad coaches can't call timeouts during play anymore. Another rule/interpretation I hate, and it's more prevalent in the NBA, is jumping up and into a defender who has been faked into the air and perhaps is coming forward a bit. Don't think the ball handler should be able to initiate the contact in that situation and get a foul.
 
The problem with the college game is its not a college game any more. At least not for the top 6 or 8 perennial powerhouses. Its NBA je league. Entertaing? Sure. But not the same game that everyone else plays, including the refereeing.
 
We are fortunate that TDC understands this 100%. It's entertainment, hence his desire for an tempo, high scoring team. As posted on eGriz several times, we may well have a 2 point guard lineup this year. It will depend on how quickly Oguine and Wright fit in, as clearly that is a style he wants to play.
Our points per game should be up-especially once conference starts, which should lead to more attendance. Win-win.
 
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