Coaches Poll

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Sure, 0-1 NDSU deserves to be ranked 18 spots higher than Cal Poly. Sure......

Sure Montana should be 12 spots higher. Sure...

I am not saying we should be ranked higher than either team (I could make a strong arguement for it though), but there should not be that big of a spread.

Perhaps.

But then I'm certain you'd also agree that UCD should have been ranked above CP to start the season, and likely still would be given their competitive FBS game?

A 2-12 team from 2014 and a 0-1 team this year. Not a chance. Besides, Cal Poly was not ranked to start the season. Cal Poly beat Montana by 20 in 2014 and return more starters in 2015 and started below the Griz to start the season and are 12 spots below them after beating them in their house this year. Were is the logic in that? 4 or 5 spots maybe, but certainly not 12.

Maybe all the voters know that CP always shits out at the end of the year...we call it Bobcating!

 

[kemajic]

Sure, 0-1 NDSU deserves to be ranked 18 spots higher than Cal Poly. Sure......

Sure Montana should be 12 spots higher. Sure...

I am not saying we should be ranked higher than either team (I could make a strong arguement for it though), but there should not be that big of a spread.

Perhaps.

But then I'm certain you'd also agree that UCD should have been ranked above CP to start the season, and likely still would be given their competitive FBS game?

A 2-12 team from 2014 and a 0-1 team this year. Not a chance. Besides, Cal Poly was not ranked to start the season. Cal Poly beat Montana by 20 in 2014 and return more starters in 2015 and started below the Griz to start the season and are 12 spots below them after beating them in their house this year. Were is the logic in that? 4 or 5 spots maybe, but certainly not 12.

Maybe they were anticipating your result this Saturday in Tempe.

And "There's a Five Dollar Fine for Whinin'."

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I am curious where we would be had we not given the poly game away.

Wonder where we'd be if NDSU hadn't given us the game the week before?

I don't disagree, but I do feel we did more to deserve the NDSU victory then Cal Poly did with us. NDSU can certainly point at a few things they would like a do over for, but we can point out numerous areas that could have changed the outcome of the game. I also feel NDSU's current rank is right on.

Doesn't change the fact that one team executed and one didn't, and that doesn't equate to "giving the game away".

We earned that win versus NDSU by driving for the TD. The Poly loss should have never happened if our D-coordinator was on his toes instead of screaming from the sidelines. You have a TO. Use it to coach 'em up!

 

[NativeGriz]

If the offense performed like they did against NDSU, this game is over in the 3rd qtr. It should have never come down to a last drive situation.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Sure, 0-1 NDSU deserves to be ranked 18 spots higher than Cal Poly. Sure......

Sure Montana should be 12 spots higher. Sure...

I am not saying we should be ranked higher than either team (I could make a strong arguement for it though), but there should not be that big of a spread.

Poly has to prove that game in and game out they will win most. They play real well against the griz every year, then lose some head scratchers, like UC f***ing Davis. NDSU is going to have to prove the opposite, that they don't belong at the top. They've lost 4 games in as many years and will have to drop at least one more to fall from the top 5. Poly just needs consistency

 

[AZGrizFan]

Wonder where we'd be if NDSU hadn't given us the game the week before?

I don't disagree, but I do feel we did more to deserve the NDSU victory then Cal Poly did with us. NDSU can certainly point at a few things they would like a do over for, but we can point out numerous areas that could have changed the outcome of the game. I also feel NDSU's current rank is right on.

Doesn't change the fact that one team executed and one didn't, and that doesn't equate to "giving the game away".

Except for running up the middle, the Griz showed they could execute very well but would self destruct with drops or over throws- notably the interceptions that went to a defender that wasn't even in position to make a play on the ball if the ball had been thrown to the receiver. Bottom line I believe NDSU was slightly better then us and we were definitely better than poly, so they got the rankings right for now. I could eat my words later. We will see soon how good poly is after playing state and ewu. To be honest I will be cheering for poly in both those games because I like their fans better.

Me too. I like their team AND their fans better.

 

[Eriul]

Even though Poly won I think it was clear they weren't the best team on the field. We made a lot of mistakes and we lost by 1 point because of it. I think NDSU is better than we are at Montana even though we won and I think Montana is better than Cal Poly even though they won. Rankings look fine for now. I'm impressed with Poly but seriously why would Poly be top 15 when they beat Montana by a point when they turned the ball over 5 times? Beating a top 10 team on an off day doesn't make you a top 10 team.

 

[SloStang]

Even though Poly won I think it was clear they weren't the best team on the field. We made a lot of mistakes and we lost by 1 point because of it. I think NDSU is better than we are at Montana even though we won and I think Montana is better than Cal Poly even though they won. Rankings look fine for now. I'm impressed with Poly but seriously why would Poly be top 15 when they beat Montana by a point when they turned the ball over 5 times? Beating a top 10 team on an off day doesn't make you a top 10 team.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it even if it is wrong.

Cal Poly made a ton of mistakes and STILL won by one. This was Cal Poly's first game vs Montana playing their second. Huge advantage for Montana because any coach will tell a team has the most growth between the first and second game. Cal Poly held the ball for 12 minutes in the 3rd quarter and held Montana's offense to 3 points in the second half. If Cal Poly's punter returner does not field a punt at the 1 yard line or they kick the FG when it was 4th and 2 at the 7 yard line you never would of held a second half lead. Cal Poly gifted the lead to Montana and then force a turn over on downs (after giving the Griz another 4 plays when they rough the QB) and march down the field with no timeouts to kick the winning FG. Let's not forget that Montana's first scoring drive was only possible because your punter is such a great actor. Let's also not forget the game was played in Montana which has the best home field advantage in the FCS.

 

[nzone]

It is what it is.......

 

[EverettGriz]

Even though Poly won I think it was clear they weren't the best team on the field. We made a lot of mistakes and we lost by 1 point because of it. I think NDSU is better than we are at Montana even though we won and I think Montana is better than Cal Poly even though they won. Rankings look fine for now. I'm impressed with Poly but seriously why would Poly be top 15 when they beat Montana by a point when they turned the ball over 5 times? Beating a top 10 team on an off day doesn't make you a top 10 team.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it even if it is wrong.

Cal Poly made a ton of mistakes and STILL won by one. This was Cal Poly's first game vs Montana playing their second. Huge advantage for Montana because any coach will tell a team has the most growth between the first and second game. Cal Poly held the ball for 12 minutes in the 3rd quarter and held Montana's offense to 3 points in the second half. If Cal Poly's punter returner does not field a punt at the 1 yard line or they kick the FG when it was 4th and 2 at the 7 yard line you never would of held a second half lead. Cal Poly gifted the lead to Montana and then force a turn over on downs (after giving the Griz another 4 plays when they rough the QB) and march down the field with no timeouts to kick the winning FG. Let's not forget that Montana's first scoring drive was only possible because your punter is such a great actor. Let's also not forget the game was played in Montana which has the best home field advantage in the FCS.

Slo, all credit to Poly who deserved to win in a very tough environment.

But you're normally a more objective poster than this. Frankly, I'd say Poly won a game that neither team played particularly well in.

But they still shouldn't be ranked ahead of Montana. Or NDSU.

 

[SloStang]

Even though Poly won I think it was clear they weren't the best team on the field. We made a lot of mistakes and we lost by 1 point because of it. I think NDSU is better than we are at Montana even though we won and I think Montana is better than Cal Poly even though they won. Rankings look fine for now. I'm impressed with Poly but seriously why would Poly be top 15 when they beat Montana by a point when they turned the ball over 5 times? Beating a top 10 team on an off day doesn't make you a top 10 team.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it even if it is wrong.

Cal Poly made a ton of mistakes and STILL won by one. This was Cal Poly's first game vs Montana playing their second. Huge advantage for Montana because any coach will tell a team has the most growth between the first and second game. Cal Poly held the ball for 12 minutes in the 3rd quarter and held Montana's offense to 3 points in the second half. If Cal Poly's punter returner does not field a punt at the 1 yard line or they kick the FG when it was 4th and 2 at the 7 yard line you never would of held a second half lead. Cal Poly gifted the lead to Montana and then force a turn over on downs (after giving the Griz another 4 plays when they rough the QB) and march down the field with no timeouts to kick the winning FG. Let's not forget that Montana's first scoring drive was only possible because your punter is such a great actor. Let's also not forget the game was played in Montana which has the best home field advantage in the FCS.

Slo, all credit to Poly who deserved to win in a very tough environment.

But you're normally a more objective poster than this. Frankly, I'd say Poly won a game that neither team played particularly well in.

But they still shouldn't be ranked ahead of Montana. Or NDSU.

First I would agree that neither team played particularly well.

You want objective? I think at this point of the season the rankings should be based on 4 things. 1) Last season's record 2) Returning starters (premium on QB). 3) Possible impact transfers. 4) This season's record.

1) Montana 8-5 (6-2) Cal Poly 7-5 (5-3) with a 21 point win over Montana. Montana had a one game better record, but loss big to Cal Poly. PUSH

2) Montana 7 offense (no returning QB with starting experience) 6 defense. Cal Poly 9 offense (2 year returning starter at QB) 5 defense. Advantage Cal Poly.

3) Neither team have a huge impact transfer. Push

4) Montana 1-1 Cal Poly 1-0 with road win over the Griz. Advantage Cal Poly.

Tell me using the above criteria why Montana deserves to be ranked 12 spots higher than a team that beat them by 21 points last season and just beat them this season? Cal Poly returns more starters including a 2 year starting QB. If YOU are OBJECTIVE, you can not. Am I missing something?

 

[Eriul]

You're so biased it makes it impossible to even sort of debate. Good luck crying about your teams ranking when you lose to teams like UC Davis.

Edit: I could pretty much disprove your data for your own formula that you believe is the way to rank a team but it's all moot because your formula is wrong anyway.

 

[SloStang]

You're so biased it makes it impossible to even sort of debate. Good luck crying about your teams ranking when you lose to teams like UC Davis.

Edit: I could pretty much disprove your data for your own formula that you believe is the way to rank a team but it's all moot because your formula is wrong anyway.

Pot, meet kettle. Let's hear the criteria you think they should use to rank teams at this point of the season.

 

[Eriul]

You're so biased it makes it impossible to even sort of debate. Good luck crying about your teams ranking when you lose to teams like UC Davis.

Edit: I could pretty much disprove your data for your own formula that you believe is the way to rank a team but it's all moot because your formula is wrong anyway.

Pot, meet kettle. Let's hear the criteria you think they should rank teams at this point of the season.

I don't have any "criteria" because I don't rank the teams. You clearly don't know me if you think I am biased for the Grizzlies.