Coach Stitt (Combined threads)

[jodcon]

UM's Conference record this past season was 3-5. We gave UNC a nice gift to their record. Your point? What did your advise Coach Stitt about that? Did he revise his promise to study the UM program from the ground up until September?

Well realistically UNC and Northern Arizona finished above us in the standings...so I guess we were one of the worst teams.

But about that MSU game...

 

[uofmman1122]

So you're (75) saying UNC was on the level of MSU (2-6), PSU (2-6), UC Davis (2-6), Sac State (2-6), and ISU (1-7)?

Again, should we have lost to them? No.

Were they "one of the worst teams in the Big Sky"? No they were not, unless you want to count NAU as "one of the worst teams in the Big Sky", as well.

 

[UMGriz75]

So you're (75) saying UNC was on the level of MSU (2-6), PSU (2-6), UC Davis (2-6), Sac State (2-6), and ISU (1-7)?

Again, should we have lost to them? No.

Please; you are trying to fabricate a controversy. Their season conference record was 4-4. Had they lost to UM as expected by some, they would have been 3-5 and UM 4-4.

See how that works?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Can't people comprehend that Montana was one of the worst teams in the BSC. Just think of how bad it could have been if they didn't pad the schedule with St Francis and Mississippi Valley.

 

[uofmman1122]

So you're (75) saying UNC was on the level of MSU (2-6), PSU (2-6), UC Davis (2-6), Sac State (2-6), and ISU (1-7)?

Again, should we have lost to them? No.

Please; you are trying to fabricate a controversy. Their season conference record was 4-4. Had they lost to UM as expected by some, they would have been 3-5 and UM 4-4.

See how that works?

Oh look, more hypotheticals.

So would that make them one of the worst teams?

3-5 still puts them ahead of 5 other teams in a 13 team conference.

None of that even matters because they ended up 6th, which is why you saying they're one of the worst teams doesn't make any sense. The season's end was bad, but you're acting like we lost to Sac State, here. They were a close final game at Cal Poly away from potentially making the playoffs.

 

[UMGriz75]

None of that even matters because they ended up 6th, which is why you saying they're one of the worst teams doesn't make any sense. The season's end was bad, but you're acting like we lost to Sac State, here. They were a close final game at Cal Poly away from potentially making the playoffs.

Are you deranged? UM LOST it's final game, a home game, to a team that otherwise would have been 1-8 in the conference but for the win over UM, using a freshman QB barely out of puberty, as against our "NFL Quality" QB.

Yes, we lost to what would have been arguably the worst team in the conference, but for their win over us, in Missoula.

Argue some more.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

I hope I'm dead and in the ground long before I'm relegated to spending all day every day of my summer obsessing about other people's opinions on a football coach...

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree Payton should not have closed the threads. I do however understand his frustration with what can be viewed as a anti-stitt sentiment on this board.
I think we may all agree on the fact that we would like to see the Griz beat the cats and make playoffs every year and that the last four games of the season were concerning. Why and how seem to be the biggest difference between posters.
I like to hear what posters have to say about their concerns and what they feel need to be addressed, I however get tired of the posters who just post negative things about Stitt and seem to hope he fails this year as to bring in another coach.
I hope Stitt has a great year and also believe that him and his staff staying a few more years will be great for the programs long term stability.

Plus 1

I agree, but I also get tired of posters who keep posting unrealistic and unsupportable things about how wonder things will be in the future. Also, posters who don't recognize the obvious problems, including, as 75 points out, things that Stitt has admitted are problem areas.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

We got very lucky with a string of coaches who inherited talent and had matching systems. They were given a nice car and didn't crash it. That's something only one other program can say: Ohio State. At some point, luck was going to catch up, it hit a little too hard. That "nice car" got totaled. But at least we're in a position where our worst seasons are still winning seasons. It's not the end of the world. It just takes some time to get back up.

So of course we have unrealistic fans. But just because one thing worked back then, 15-20 years ago, does not mean it will work now.

You don't seem to have much knowledge of Griz football, or football either. UM has not had a string of coaches with matching systems. Since 2000, each new coach had a different system. Pflu took over from Hauck (pro set with some power), and then moved to a version of the spread. Delaney took over the spread and then changed it back to more power, doing much of the changeover in the 2d year.

UM has never come close to being "totaled". Jeez, Delaney's last 2 seasons were 9-5 and 10-3. Not so sure that 6-5 after 8-5, is the right trend. But, I'm still on board, and think Stitt could get it going this year.

You might want to do two things.

1) check the stats. Going from Read, to Glenn, to Hauck was pretty consistent and both Glenn and Hauck were given title contenders and had systems that fit the players already there.
2) Get your story straight. Is the sky falling under Stitt? Is he a bad coach? Or are things ok and patience is the right course?

And yes, the car was totaled. Big scandal and 2012 was the first losing season in about 2 decades. Add on the scholarship reductions, and damage to the reputation, it's lucky things hadn't gotten worse. Fixing those problems takes time.

You don't have a clue. I'm putting you in my top 5 dumb football posters.

It didn't go from Read to Glenn. Think Dennehy. Hauck came in after Glenn's team had finished the season at 1-3, and a 5-2 conference season. Glenn and Hauck inherited reasonably good teams, just like Stitt did. Glenn and Hauck used systems initially that would work with the players they had.

It is just ridiculous to say the car was totaled. Not even close. A just plain stupid comment. The start of the "big scandal" was after the first losing season, by the way, and, again, was due largely to qb issues after Selle went down. Same issue for Delaney's first year with not having JJ. The "scandal" impacted JJ and that first year of Delaney, but the scandal has impacted UM as a school way more than UM as a football program.

My story is always straight. I understand football and have 25 years of solid understanding of Griz football and its history. You don't understand either.

Oh man. You should've been a gymnast with those leaps and bounds you pulled. But that's all right.

You say you've been around a long time. Well, you must simply be getting old. And it's alright to be a little senile. I'll just remember to be more patient with you.

But if you're not getting old, well, being called an idiot by an idiot must mean I'm doing something right.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

None of that even matters because they ended up 6th, which is why you saying they're one of the worst teams doesn't make any sense. The season's end was bad, but you're acting like we lost to Sac State, here. They were a close final game at Cal Poly away from potentially making the playoffs.

Are you deranged? UM LOST it's final game, a home game, to a team that otherwise would have been 1-8 in the conference but for the win over UM, using a freshman QB barely out of puberty, as against our "NFL Quality" QB.

Yes, we lost to what would have been arguably the worst team in the conference, but for their win over us, in Missoula.

Argue some more.

You do know the Big Sky plays an 8-game conference schedule right? They wouldn't have been 1-8 anyways.

 

[PlayerRep]

You don't seem to have much knowledge of Griz football, or football either. UM has not had a string of coaches with matching systems. Since 2000, each new coach had a different system. Pflu took over from Hauck (pro set with some power), and then moved to a version of the spread. Delaney took over the spread and then changed it back to more power, doing much of the changeover in the 2d year.

UM has never come close to being "totaled". Jeez, Delaney's last 2 seasons were 9-5 and 10-3. Not so sure that 6-5 after 8-5, is the right trend. But, I'm still on board, and think Stitt could get it going this year.

You might want to do two things.

1) check the stats. Going from Read, to Glenn, to Hauck was pretty consistent and both Glenn and Hauck were given title contenders and had systems that fit the players already there.
2) Get your story straight. Is the sky falling under Stitt? Is he a bad coach? Or are things ok and patience is the right course?

And yes, the car was totaled. Big scandal and 2012 was the first losing season in about 2 decades. Add on the scholarship reductions, and damage to the reputation, it's lucky things hadn't gotten worse. Fixing those problems takes time.

You don't have a clue. I'm putting you in my top 5 dumb football posters.

It didn't go from Read to Glenn. Think Dennehy. Hauck came in after Glenn's team had finished the season at 1-3, and a 5-2 conference season. Glenn and Hauck inherited reasonably good teams, just like Stitt did. Glenn and Hauck used systems initially that would work with the players they had.

It is just ridiculous to say the car was totaled. Not even close. A just plain stupid comment. The start of the "big scandal" was after the first losing season, by the way, and, again, was due largely to qb issues after Selle went down. Same issue for Delaney's first year with not having JJ. The "scandal" impacted JJ and that first year of Delaney, but the scandal has impacted UM as a school way more than UM as a football program.

My story is always straight. I understand football and have 25 years of solid understanding of Griz football and its history. You don't understand either.

Oh man. You should've been a gymnast with those leaps and bounds you pulled. But that's all right.

You say you've been around a long time. Well, you must simply be getting old. And it's alright to be a little senile. I'll just remember to be more patient with you.

But if you're not getting old, well, being called an idiot by an idiot must mean I'm doing something right.

Yup, been following the Griz closely for over 25 years. Dad and multiple relatives played for the Griz. Played college football. Have known UM coaches since the Dennehy years, as well as players. What's your Griz or football pedigree? Got any? Or just a bigmouth with no connections or knowledge?

 

[Paytonlives]

I agree Payton should not have closed the threads. I do however understand his frustration with what can be viewed as a anti-stitt sentiment on this board.
I think we may all agree on the fact that we would like to see the Griz beat the cats and make playoffs every year and that the last four games of the season were concerning. Why and how seem to be the biggest difference between posters.
I like to hear what posters have to say about their concerns and what they feel need to be addressed, I however get tired of the posters who just post negative things about Stitt and seem to hope he fails this year as to bring in another coach.
I hope Stitt has a great year and also believe that him and his staff staying a few more years will be great for the programs long term stability.

Plus 1

I agree, but I also get tired of posters who keep posting unrealistic and unsupportable things about how wonder things will be in the future. Also, posters who don't recognize the obvious problems, including, as 75 points out, things that Stitt has admitted are problem areas.

PR & 75,

Ill try one more time.

The reason that I moved/closed all those threads is because they had morfed into one subject, mainly the job that Stitt was doing or they had strayed from the original post into a Johnson measuring contest. Then I started this one and combined a few so that readers that don't give a crap about this stuff can find other material to read easier and posters that care a lot about this could continue on.

I am not a Stitt apologist, but then again Im not going to bash him either.

When ever a team finishes 1-4 there are problems. But those problems are never one persons fault. If Stitt saw something and did nothing then he screwed up. And yes Stitt did admit he screwed up, thats what coached do. However, the players also need to step up and take some responsibility. IE everyone in the locker room needs to hold themselves and their team accountable. All I have ever posted about this is that I saw it on the sidelines of the msu game that the players did not have any fight left... they had stopped playing hard in a 7 point game. Is that because of Stitt or a player problem... I don't know. Probably a little of both. What I do know is that it sucked.

As far as the future... the last few recruiting classes are really good. Where do I get that opinion? I support that by the fact that I have watched thousands of hours of film over the last 20 years... AND ON FILM these guys are players. BTW... I get my opinion on comparing player films and watching a lot of games live. That does not mean they will be all-stars as frosh or even as sophs, But I believe (Its my opinion) that the future does look bright.

Do I think the talent was not where it needs to be to compete for a NC the last few years? Yes! (Thats my opinion)

And just when will we know about Stitt and whether he is the man for the job... Well honestly after game 4 this fall. Should be 2-1 (Two fairly easy games and Washington) then home to face EWU. An EWU that will probably be 1-2 or 0-3.

Personally... I am an optimist, its in my DNA. I prefer to look ahead and leave stuff in the dust. But Im also a realist... An the reality is this season is going to be really interesting a lot of unknowns and a lot of possibilities.. I can honestly see anything from 5-6 to 10-1.

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree Payton should not have closed the threads. I do however understand his frustration with what can be viewed as a anti-stitt sentiment on this board.
I think we may all agree on the fact that we would like to see the Griz beat the cats and make playoffs every year and that the last four games of the season were concerning. Why and how seem to be the biggest difference between posters.
I like to hear what posters have to say about their concerns and what they feel need to be addressed, I however get tired of the posters who just post negative things about Stitt and seem to hope he fails this year as to bring in another coach.
I hope Stitt has a great year and also believe that him and his staff staying a few more years will be great for the programs long term stability.

Plus 1

I agree, but I also get tired of posters who keep posting unrealistic and unsupportable things about how wonder things will be in the future. Also, posters who don't recognize the obvious problems, including, as 75 points out, things that Stitt has admitted are problem areas.

PR & 75,

Ill try one more time.

The reason that I moved/closed all those threads is because they had morfed into one subject, mainly the job that Stitt was doing or they had strayed from the original post into a Johnson measuring contest. Then I started this one and combined a few so that readers that don't give a crap about this stuff can find other material to read easier and posters that care a lot about this could continue on.

I am not a Stitt apologist, but then again Im not going to bash him either.

When ever a team finishes 1-4 there are problems. But those problems are never one persons fault. If Stitt saw something and did nothing then he screwed up. And yes Stitt did admit he screwed up, thats what coached do. However, the players also need to step up and take some responsibility. IE everyone in the locker room needs to hold themselves and their team accountable. All I have ever posted about this is that I saw it on the sidelines of the msu game that the players did not have any fight left... they had stopped playing hard in a 7 point game. Is that because of Stitt or a player problem... I don't know. Probably a little of both. What I do know is that it sucked.

As far as the future... the last few recruiting classes are really good. Where do I get that opinion? I support that by the fact that I have watched thousands of hours of film over the last 20 years... AND ON FILM these guys are players. BTW... I get my opinion on comparing player films and watching a lot of games live. That does not mean they will be all-stars as frosh or even as sophs, But I believe (Its my opinion) that the future does look bright.

Do I think the talent was not where it needs to be to compete for a NC the last few years? Yes! (Thats my opinion)

And just when will we know about Stitt and whether he is the man for the job... Well honestly after game 4 this fall. Should be 2-1 (Two fairly easy games and Washington) then home to face EWU. An EWU that will probably be 1-2 or 0-3.

Personally... I am an optimist, its in my DNA. I prefer to look ahead and leave stuff in the dust. But Im also a realist... An the reality is this season is going to be really interesting a lot of unknowns and a lot of possibilities.. I can honestly see anything from 5-6 to 10-1.

Very good post.

 

[uofmman1122]

None of that even matters because they ended up 6th, which is why you saying they're one of the worst teams doesn't make any sense. The season's end was bad, but you're acting like we lost to Sac State, here. They were a close final game at Cal Poly away from potentially making the playoffs.

Are you deranged? UM LOST it's final game, a home game, to a team that otherwise would have been 1-8 in the conference but for the win over UM, using a freshman QB barely out of puberty, as against our "NFL Quality" QB.

Yes, we lost to what would have been arguably the worst team in the conference, but for their win over us, in Missoula.

Argue some more.

Exactly.

We lost to one of the worst teams in the BSC (I also don't remember ever saying that was okay).

Not two.

Thank you.

 

[Yukon]

45 days until college football starts.....thank God.

 

[UMGriz75]

You do know the Big Sky plays an 8-game conference schedule right? They wouldn't have been 1-8 anyways.

Yes, and if you weren't so busy trying to play "gotcha" you would have noticed I also referred to UNC's season conference record as "4-4" with the win over Montana. You are trying strenuously to argue who was in the bottom half of tournament rankings. Get it?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

You are trying strenuously to argue who was in the bottom half of tournament rankings. Get it?

As are you.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

I agree Payton should not have closed the threads. I do however understand his frustration with what can be viewed as a anti-stitt sentiment on this board.
I think we may all agree on the fact that we would like to see the Griz beat the cats and make playoffs every year and that the last four games of the season were concerning. Why and how seem to be the biggest difference between posters.
I like to hear what posters have to say about their concerns and what they feel need to be addressed, I however get tired of the posters who just post negative things about Stitt and seem to hope he fails this year as to bring in another coach.
I hope Stitt has a great year and also believe that him and his staff staying a few more years will be great for the programs long term stability.

Plus 1

I agree, but I also get tired of posters who keep posting unrealistic and unsupportable things about how wonder things will be in the future. Also, posters who don't recognize the obvious problems, including, as 75 points out, things that Stitt has admitted are problem areas.

PR & 75,

Ill try one more time.

The reason that I moved/closed all those threads is because they had morfed into one subject, mainly the job that Stitt was doing or they had strayed from the original post into a Johnson measuring contest. Then I started this one and combined a few so that readers that don't give a crap about this stuff can find other material to read easier and posters that care a lot about this could continue on.

I am not a Stitt apologist, but then again Im not going to bash him either.

When ever a team finishes 1-4 there are problems. But those problems are never one persons fault. If Stitt saw something and did nothing then he screwed up. And yes Stitt did admit he screwed up, thats what coached do. However, the players also need to step up and take some responsibility. IE everyone in the locker room needs to hold themselves and their team accountable. All I have ever posted about this is that I saw it on the sidelines of the msu game that the players did not have any fight left... they had stopped playing hard in a 7 point game. Is that because of Stitt or a player problem... I don't know. Probably a little of both. What I do know is that it sucked.

As far as the future... the last few recruiting classes are really good. Where do I get that opinion? I support that by the fact that I have watched thousands of hours of film over the last 20 years... AND ON FILM these guys are players. BTW... I get my opinion on comparing player films and watching a lot of games live. That does not mean they will be all-stars as frosh or even as sophs, But I believe (Its my opinion) that the future does look bright.

Do I think the talent was not where it needs to be to compete for a NC the last few years? Yes! (Thats my opinion)

And just when will we know about Stitt and whether he is the man for the job... Well honestly after game 4 this fall. Should be 2-1 (Two fairly easy games and Washington) then home to face EWU. An EWU that will probably be 1-2 or 0-3.

Personally... I am an optimist, its in my DNA. I prefer to look ahead and leave stuff in the dust. But Im also a realist... An the reality is this season is going to be really interesting a lot of unknowns and a lot of possibilities.. I can honestly see anything from 5-6 to 10-1.

The Griz were good with JJ under Pflu. They were bad without him first year under Delaney. They were good again with JJ after he returned. Conclusions: 1) JJ made the Griz good in the years he played. 2) Without JJ, as a whole the Griz were not very good. 3) If the overall talent wasn't weaker than previous years, the ability to play as a team was.

And what about other dynamics. Was it JJ being out, a weaker team, or Delaney's inexperience as a HC that contributed most to the under .500 record, or an equal combo of all three? Where do we factor in the breaking of the streak, lack of conference championships, regular losses to CPSLO and EWU, and loss of fear factor in teams playing the Griz that were piling up?

Alot of intangibles were in place when Stitt got here that may have contributed to last years' late season collapse. Personally, I believe the seeds were sewn when the team lost faith in itself in the Coastal Carolina game where they had that team down 10-0 in the 1st qtr and at 3rd and long in its own territory, and gave up the 80+ td bomb. The late season collapse in the 2nd quarter of that game was just as hard to take as last seasons' 5 game collapse.

May we see all of these demons exercised this year? I sure as hell hope so.

And I have to comment on the discussion about Stitt's reaction or lack thereof to a supposed "problem player". College is not the NFL. A college coach does not have the luxury of trading or releasing a Randy Moss, Terrell Owens or Percy Harvin. Benching them does not get them off the team and dismissing a player for non-dismissable behavior can not occur. Playing an unhappy or frustrated player, hoping he will mature and play at his highest level, and not taking action which might label him as a problem player and destroy his post-college playing opportunities, doesn't mean in this knee-jerk world that the coach doesn't know what he is doing.

 

[bgbigdog]

Plus 1

I agree, but I also get tired of posters who keep posting unrealistic and unsupportable things about how wonder things will be in the future. Also, posters who don't recognize the obvious problems, including, as 75 points out, things that Stitt has admitted are problem areas.

PR & 75,

Ill try one more time.

The reason that I moved/closed all those threads is because they had morfed into one subject, mainly the job that Stitt was doing or they had strayed from the original post into a Johnson measuring contest. Then I started this one and combined a few so that readers that don't give a crap about this stuff can find other material to read easier and posters that care a lot about this could continue on.

I am not a Stitt apologist, but then again Im not going to bash him either.

When ever a team finishes 1-4 there are problems. But those problems are never one persons fault. If Stitt saw something and did nothing then he screwed up. And yes Stitt did admit he screwed up, thats what coached do. However, the players also need to step up and take some responsibility. IE everyone in the locker room needs to hold themselves and their team accountable. All I have ever posted about this is that I saw it on the sidelines of the msu game that the players did not have any fight left... they had stopped playing hard in a 7 point game. Is that because of Stitt or a player problem... I don't know. Probably a little of both. What I do know is that it sucked.

As far as the future... the last few recruiting classes are really good. Where do I get that opinion? I support that by the fact that I have watched thousands of hours of film over the last 20 years... AND ON FILM these guys are players. BTW... I get my opinion on comparing player films and watching a lot of games live. That does not mean they will be all-stars as frosh or even as sophs, But I believe (Its my opinion) that the future does look bright.

Do I think the talent was not where it needs to be to compete for a NC the last few years? Yes! (Thats my opinion)

And just when will we know about Stitt and whether he is the man for the job... Well honestly after game 4 this fall. Should be 2-1 (Two fairly easy games and Washington) then home to face EWU. An EWU that will probably be 1-2 or 0-3.

Personally... I am an optimist, its in my DNA. I prefer to look ahead and leave stuff in the dust. But Im also a realist... An the reality is this season is going to be really interesting a lot of unknowns and a lot of possibilities.. I can honestly see anything from 5-6 to 10-1.

The Griz were good with JJ under Pflu. They were bad without him first year under Delaney. They were good again with JJ after he returned. Conclusions: 1) JJ made the Griz good in the years he played. 2) Without JJ, as a whole the Griz were not very good. 3) If the overall talent wasn't weaker than previous years, the ability to play as a team was.

And what about other dynamics. Was it JJ being out, a weaker team, or Delaney's inexperience as a HC that contributed most to the under .500 record, or an equal combo of all three? Where do we factor in the breaking of the streak, lack of conference championships, regular losses to CPSLO and EWU, and loss of fear factor in teams playing the Griz that were piling up?

Alot of intangibles were in place when Stitt got here that may have contributed to last years' late season collapse. Personally, I believe the seeds were sewn when the team lost faith in itself in the Coastal Carolina game where they had that team down 10-0 in the 1st qtr and at 3rd and long in its own territory, and gave up the 80+ td bomb. The late season collapse in the 2nd quarter of that game was just as hard to take as last seasons' 5 game collapse.

May we see all of these demons exercised this year? I sure as hell hope so.

And I have to comment on the discussion about Stitt's reaction or lack thereof to a supposed "problem player". College is not the NFL. A college coach does not have the luxury of trading or releasing a Randy Moss, Terrell Owens or Percy Harvin. Benching them does not get them off the team and dismissing a player for non-dismissable behavior can not occur. Playing an unhappy or frustrated player, hoping he will mature and play at his highest level, and not taking action which might label him as a problem player and destroy his post-college playing opportunities, doesn't mean in this knee-jerk world that the coach doesn't know what he is doing.

Imagine how much better grandpa "D's" offense would have been had he just continued with the Pflu version rather than scrapping it for something he was "more comfortable" with. When he needed continuity the most, he chucked it out the window.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

You might want to do two things.

1) check the stats. Going from Read, to Glenn, to Hauck was pretty consistent and both Glenn and Hauck were given title contenders and had systems that fit the players already there.
2) Get your story straight. Is the sky falling under Stitt? Is he a bad coach? Or are things ok and patience is the right course?

And yes, the car was totaled. Big scandal and 2012 was the first losing season in about 2 decades. Add on the scholarship reductions, and damage to the reputation, it's lucky things hadn't gotten worse. Fixing those problems takes time.

You don't have a clue. I'm putting you in my top 5 dumb football posters.

It didn't go from Read to Glenn. Think Dennehy. Hauck came in after Glenn's team had finished the season at 1-3, and a 5-2 conference season. Glenn and Hauck inherited reasonably good teams, just like Stitt did. Glenn and Hauck used systems initially that would work with the players they had.

It is just ridiculous to say the car was totaled. Not even close. A just plain stupid comment. The start of the "big scandal" was after the first losing season, by the way, and, again, was due largely to qb issues after Selle went down. Same issue for Delaney's first year with not having JJ. The "scandal" impacted JJ and that first year of Delaney, but the scandal has impacted UM as a school way more than UM as a football program.

My story is always straight. I understand football and have 25 years of solid understanding of Griz football and its history. You don't understand either.

Oh man. You should've been a gymnast with those leaps and bounds you pulled. But that's all right.

You say you've been around a long time. Well, you must simply be getting old. And it's alright to be a little senile. I'll just remember to be more patient with you.

But if you're not getting old, well, being called an idiot by an idiot must mean I'm doing something right.

Yup, been following the Griz closely for over 25 years. Dad and multiple relatives played for the Griz. Played college football. Have known UM coaches since the Dennehy years, as well as players. What's your Griz or football pedigree? Got any? Or just a bigmouth with no connections or knowledge?

Well, That explains a lot. You like Dennehy, and so it makes sense you wouldn't like his replacement. Plus, with you getting old, you must simply be desperate to get back to winning on a championship level again. You don't have a lot of time left, so screw patience. I get that. I mean, its not how football works, but it certainly explains a lot about why you feel the way you do.