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citay's theory of national basketball attention

citygriz

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and so the national selection committee wound up treating us like a cheap suit at the grand opening of the opera. we may be a big sky power, but to them we're still empty sky country. i thought at least there'd be some expression of outrage or sympathy for us, a la drexel on the men's side, but that was reserved for la tech and texas. we wound getting about as much respect as a fourth-grader playing mary poppins in the school play.

but after the disappointment, i have to say, if we're ever going to get any respect on the national stage, two things will have to happen:
1.) we must have two bona-fide all-time montana greats playing on the same team at the same; and
2.) no more than two years apart.

this is a theory i developed a long time ago, and it applies to both men's and women's teams. a larry kystkowiak, a micheal ray richardson, a shannon cate, a mandy morales--it's just not enough unless that one great player has the support of another great player. micheal ray was an incredible one-man-gang his senior year, bit it didn't get us past weber state in the conference championship. i'll always hold a small grudge against montgomery for being unable to recruit at least one more great player--especially a point guard--to go with krysko, who never won a big sky championship as a player. shannon cate managed to get us a victory on the road at wisconsin, but our real chance for national attention went down the drain when vicky austin, a terrific point guard and our only black recruit in the history of the program, went down for the year with an injury.

and so for this year. mandy morales is a great player, but it became apparent to me after seeing the lady griz lose in ogden that any astute coach could double-team her baseline to baseline, as weber did, and really pretty much shut down the rest of the team. the double-teaming that mandy would have seen from the quicker point guards at the bigger schools would have been ferocious, and i'm sure we'll see it at utah as well.

so what of the future?

actually, it seems to me that it's never been brighter, for either team. i'm hoping that dvera tolbert emerges as a star player, and that by the time she's a red-shirt freshman or sophomore is able to give mandy some real relief. on the men's side, we have three potential greats within a year of each other--hasquet, rundles and selvig. when i say great, i mean...great. not just good, but players that will go down as among the best in the history of the school.

that's what it'll take for us to be great on the national stage.

and, actually, that's just what we had in our two greatest national games--the narrow loss to ucla, and the win against nevada. against ucla, we had ken mckenzie, one of the all-time great post players, and eric hays, who on that night played one of the greatest single games in the history of the school. had micheal ray, who scored zero points in that game, been a sophomore or junior, we might really have gone far that year.

again, against nevada, we had keven criswell, one of our all-time greats, together with andrew strait, who on that day played to the level of an all-time great.

but it takes two, and mandy can't do it alone. here's hoping for dvera tolbert and derrick selvig.
 
I think the problem with Big Sky basketball is that you usually only get one great player at a time. The exceptions were Steve Hayes, Jeff Cook and Griffith for the Idaho State team that eliminated UCLA and lost to UNLV it the Western Regional Final back in the middle to late 70s. The 81 -82 Idaho teams had 5 very good players and were ranked in the top 10. Weber State had Bruce Collins and a 7 footer back (forgot name) in 1978. If Lee Johnson had not been declared inelgible in 1977, the Griz would have had two players who ended up being first round picks. The Griz had to forfit a large portion of the season that year because of him. Johnson was an amazing 6'10" forward that was amazing.

I look at past Montana players a think about a great team if you could have MR Richardson at point guard (a position where he was a NBA all-star but never played in college), Larry K. at power forward, Derrick Pope at small forward, Craig Zanon at off guard (a 6'6" jumping jack from 1982), and John Stroder at center (6'10" brusier that played for a time in the NBA). The reserves would be Marc Glass at guard, Kearney at power forward, Kevin Engellent and Ken McKenzie at center, Allen Neilson at small forward (perhaps the best pure shooter in Griz history) and the point guard from Blaine Taylor's 1990's team that did so well. Criswell could also be a reserve off the bench. He was a good Big Sky player but not a notional type of player.
 
LittletonGriz said:
I think the problem with Big Sky basketball is that you usually only get one great player at a time. The exceptions were Steve Hayes, Jeff Cook and Griffith for the Idaho State team that eliminated UCLA and lost to UNLV it the Western Regional Final back in the middle to late 70s. The 81 -82 Idaho teams had 5 very good players and were ranked in the top 10. Weber State had Bruce Collins and a 7 footer back (forgot name) in 1978. If Lee Johnson had not been declared inelgible in 1977, the Griz would have had two players who ended up being first round picks. The Griz had to forfit a large portion of the season that year because of him. Johnson was an amazing 6'10" forward that was amazing.

I look at past Montana players a think about a great team if you could have MR Richardson at point guard (a position where he was a NBA all-star but never played in college), Larry K. at power forward, Derrick Pope at small forward, Craig Zanon at off guard (a 6'6" jumping jack from 1982), and John Stroder at center (6'10" brusier that played for a time in the NBA). The reserves would be Marc Glass at guard, Kearney at power forward, Kevin Engellent and Ken McKenzie at center, Allen Neilson at small forward (perhaps the best pure shooter in Griz history) and the point guard from Blaine Taylor's 1990's team that did so well. Criswell could also be a reserve off the bench. He was a good Big Sky player but not a notional type of player.
I think you mean Darren Engellant at center. Travis DeCuire is the pg you speak of. :twocents:
 
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