Christ on a crutch, You would think this team was 1-4

[dupuyer griz]

Clearly discussing a position as no names were mentioned....also, it's know-nothings...which by knowing that I have proved your point to be incorrect as that is something rather than nothing. Please add substance rather than feelings. That's what I asked for in my post and rather than refuting my evidence with facts proving me wrong. A personal attack on me doesn't make me wrong, and it kind of makes me look right from the outside looking in. If you can provide stats facts evidence showing I am wrong I will admit that I made a mistake and say you were right. For instance how often are our runners hit in the backfield? How often is the quarterback hurried? Numbers prove me wrong sharing feelings proves you don't like the numbers but have no evidence to back up your feelings. I have been repeatedly called names and a bad fan. Although there is no evidence of me being anything other than someone who looks at the facts at hand and doesn't say A+ everyone's amazing let's hug it out.

 

[kemajic]

Clearly discussing a position as no names were mentioned....also, it's know-nothings...which by knowing that I have proved your point to be incorrect as that is something rather than nothing. Please add substance rather than feelings. That's what I asked for in my post and rather than refuting my evidence with facts proving me wrong. A personal attack on me doesn't make me wrong, and it kind of makes me look right from the outside looking in. If you can provide stats facts evidence showing I am wrong I will admit that I made a mistake and say you were right. For instance how often are our runners hit in the backfield? How often is the quarterback hurried? Numbers prove me wrong sharing feelings proves you don't like the numbers but have no evidence to back up your feelings. I have been repeatedly called names and a bad fan. Although there is no evidence of me being anything other than someone who looks at the facts at hand and doesn't say A+ everyone's amazing let's hug it out.

Join the club. Any critical analysis = bad fan. But as much as I hate to admit it, you did expose yourself to be called out when you inferred UM was lucky to be 4-2 and could be 2-4, when in fact UM is just as unlucky to not be 5-1 or even 6-0 with the same logic. Of course, PR has to use his familiar stinkingly abusive form to make which otherwise is a valid point. 15 yard penalty on him - puts you in the red zone.

 

[PlayerRep]

Clearly discussing a position as no names were mentioned....also, it's know-nothings...which by knowing that I have proved your point to be incorrect as that is something rather than nothing. Please add substance rather than feelings. That's what I asked for in my post and rather than refuting my evidence with facts proving me wrong. A personal attack on me doesn't make me wrong, and it kind of makes me look right from the outside looking in. If you can provide stats facts evidence showing I am wrong I will admit that I made a mistake and say you were right. For instance how often are our runners hit in the backfield? How often is the quarterback hurried? Numbers prove me wrong sharing feelings proves you don't like the numbers but have no evidence to back up your feelings. I have been repeatedly called names and a bad fan. Although there is no evidence of me being anything other than someone who looks at the facts at hand and doesn't say A+ everyone's amazing let's hug it out.

Join the club. Any critical analysis = bad fan. But as much as I hate to admit it, you did expose yourself to be called out when you inferred UM was lucky to be 4-2 and could be 2-4, when in fact UM is just as unlucky to not be 5-1 or even 6-0 with the same logic. Of course, PR has to use his familiar stinkingly abusive form to make which otherwise is a valid point. 15 yard penalty on him - puts you in the red zone.

Hey, it's Mr. Negative himself.

 

[Umista]

Stop all this stuff right now. To all the bad fans. To all the good fans.

The season will be over and many of us fans will not discover the type of fan we are!

Perhaps during the next 10 days we should all vote and see just what kind of Griz fan we really are.?

For me I'll admit to being a "nut case" type of fan because I just love the hell out of my Griz football team. Yes it is true I want perfection, I expect a score each and every time we have the ball. I expect a complete shut out each time the defense is on the field. Special teams? You guessed it, we should never need them except to kick the ball off.

Now the coaches: I want nice guys, pillars of the community. Bold, smart, young and old but they must recruit with the likes of the pac 12. They must pass the ball and to slow the game down run the ball, never punt always pass or run on 4th down. Always!

And If none of the above occurs then I will pout, bitch, drink to much, get on egriz and whine, cry and continue to hate the cats.

Signed, Yo Nut

 

[AllWeatherFan]

My expectations are simple and reasonable.

Every single offensive play should be a super creative trick play that fools everybody in the stadium, especially the entire defense and Coach Craig Bohl, and results in a touchdown, with a two-point conversion. All of the offensive lineman should have 100% DOLA, except on weekends, when they should behave like Mormons or altar boys. The quarterback should complete 100% of his passes, except when he runs 77 yards or more for a touchdown (plus two-point conversion). Our field goal kicker should be 100% on all kicks less than 70 yards, and 0-0 on extra points (due to the aforementioned two-point conversions).

Our defense should hold opposing offenses to less than nine points per game. Our opponents should have no touchdowns on the season. The only points we should give up are field goals that the referees mistakenly think are good, even though high-definition instant replays conclusively show that they are wide left. We will still need something to bitch about, after all.

Time of possession should be 90-10 in our favor, even though that will be sort of hard to pull off when every single play is a trick play that results in a touchdown (with a two-point conversion). But if we had good coaches with swagger and DOLA they would figure out a way to make both things happen.

Oh, and we should receive the kickoff to start both halves, in every single game.

 

[argh!]

My expectations are simple and reasonable.

Every single offensive play should be a super creative trick play that fools everybody in the stadium, especially the entire defense and Coach Craig Bohl, and results in a touchdown, with a two-point conversion. All of the offensive lineman should have 100% DOLA, except on weekends, when they should behave like Mormons or altar boys. The quarterback should complete 100% of his passes, except when he runs 77 yards or more for a touchdown (plus two-point conversion). Our field goal kicker should be 100% on all kicks less than 70 yards, and 0-0 on extra points (due to the aforementioned two-point conversions).

Our defense should hold opposing offenses to less than nine points per game. Our opponents should have no touchdowns on the season. The only points we should give up are field goals that the referees mistakenly think are good, even though high-definition instant replays conclusively show that they are wide left. We will still need something to bitch about, after all.

Time of possession should be 90-10 in our favor, even though that will be sort of hard to pull off when every single play is a trick play that results in a touchdown (with a two-point conversion). But if we had good coaches with swagger and DOLA they would figure out a way to make both things happen.

Oh, and we should receive the kickoff to start both halves, in every single game.

signed, yo nut

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Also, coaches with DOLA and swagger, like the kind we should have, would solve such mysteries as how you can kick and 69-yard field goals when every play is a touchdown. Like well-placed unnecessary roughness call against your offensive linemen who, because of their DOLA, sometimes find it more important and honorable to protect their quarterback than to score touchdowns. Because we have the honor thing going for us, too.

 

[signedbewildered]

Clearly discussing a position as no names were mentioned....also, it's know-nothings...which by knowing that I have proved your point to be incorrect as that is something rather than nothing. Please add substance rather than feelings. That's what I asked for in my post and rather than refuting my evidence with facts proving me wrong. A personal attack on me doesn't make me wrong, and it kind of makes me look right from the outside looking in. If you can provide stats facts evidence showing I am wrong I will admit that I made a mistake and say you were right. For instance how often are our runners hit in the backfield? How often is the quarterback hurried? Numbers prove me wrong sharing feelings proves you don't like the numbers but have no evidence to back up your feelings. I have been repeatedly called names and a bad fan. Although there is no evidence of me being anything other than someone who looks at the facts at hand and doesn't say A+ everyone's amazing let's hug it out.

Join the club. Any critical analysis = bad fan. But as much as I hate to admit it, you did expose yourself to be called out when you inferred UM was lucky to be 4-2 and could be 2-4, when in fact UM is just as unlucky to not be 5-1 or even 6-0 with the same logic. Of course, PR has to use his familiar stinkingly abusive form to make which otherwise is a valid point. 15 yard penalty on him - puts you in the red zone.

Hey, it's Mr. Negative himself.

Actually he is quite content where he is on the Bizon forum.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

My expectations are simple and reasonable.

Every single offensive play should be a super creative trick play that fools everybody in the stadium, especially the entire defense and Coach Craig Bohl, and results in a touchdown, with a two-point conversion. All of the offensive lineman should have 100% DOLA, except on weekends, when they should behave like Mormons or altar boys. The quarterback should complete 100% of his passes, except when he runs 77 yards or more for a touchdown (plus two-point conversion). Our field goal kicker should be 100% on all kicks less than 70 yards, and 0-0 on extra points (due to the aforementioned two-point conversions).

Our defense should hold opposing offenses to less than nine points per game. Our opponents should have no touchdowns on the season. The only points we should give up are field goals that the referees mistakenly think are good, even though high-definition instant replays conclusively show that they are wide left. We will still need something to bitch about, after all.

Time of possession should be 90-10 in our favor, even though that will be sort of hard to pull off when every single play is a trick play that results in a touchdown (with a two-point conversion). But if we had good coaches with swagger and DOLA they would figure out a way to make both things happen.

Oh, and we should receive the kickoff to start both halves, in every single game.

Not good enough. You suck.
your friend, Yoggi

 

[putter]

What do you think?

This offense is as hard to evaluate as any Griz team in a long time. Mostly because I believe there is a laundry list of things this group of players cannot execute at this moment. The scheme is there and I think the play calling is there as well. I after watching the UND and the NDSU game again, there are just a lot of things these guys can't execute very well. Who is most responsible for the failure? I am fairly sure the blame doesn't fall in one camp or the other.

Really I struggle with what can be done to fix what is not necessarily a weak offensive line but rather a line that struggles executing plays consistently.

I don't think you can get more simple in run game blocking with the power man set and zone blocking. There isn't a lot of movement or tons of blocking rules.I am not trying to make excuses for players or coaches here, but I really believe what some are asking for might be nearly impossible.

That being said, here is what may make things better, if I were an offensive coordinator and I had the ability to make changes....This of course comes from a different perspective...

1. More perimeter screens of any type. Fast and solid screens to X/Z provide the type of perimeter attack that stretches defenses out. We run them probably four to five times a game but I am generally under the philosophy the more you get backers to move horizontally. We run them enough to know they are in the play book.

2. I am adverse to roll out. I believe for a line that struggles, blocking a moving target on two lines of movement (horizontally/vertically) while you are moving is asking for trouble. I think it increases the chances for free shots on the QB and limits the effectiveness of the offense. Just my opinion, but you make it easier for the defense to cover people. I think if you want to increase the chances of the OL seeing success in the passing game, then I think you have to attack areas where teams are going to bring pressure from. This would require us engaging in some different formations, but running zone read with a stick or snag concept on the edge is pretty effective.

We've run it sparingly this year, but we did run it out of gun last year with the zone read look. Line always blocks zone, and the inside receiver runs a bubble, the outside guy runs a arrow or stick route to the backside of zone. I love it as a concept and watched us run it terribly the other day when our outside receivers run by the grass into an area where the backers are at.

3. More spread or trips formations. I think it simplifys the blocking for linemen and creates better angles. Pulls guys out of the box and simplifys reads for the offensive lineman.

Of course I don't know the play book but rather these are assumptions made upon what I have seen in the past that they could run more. I don't know that it would be effective, but with SSH at the helm we are going to get a pocket passer and with JJ him staying in the pocket is probably a good idea. So two or three step drops and quick set pass drops seem to be more effective ways of taking advantage of what the line gives and what defenses want to do.