Christ on a crutch, You would think this team was 1-4

[signedbewildered]

I don't know how long I've been a member; I could look and find out, but I honestly don't care. All I can say is that I have little faith in what this team can do, in large part because I have so little faith in the current coaching staff. I will ALWAYS be a Griz fan; I will ALWAYS show up at home games and some away games. But, than doesn't mean I won't be critical on some aspects of what the team does or than I will support the coaching staff without question. I will always be on the side of the players -- they are what make/break the UM Griz team.

Surely you jest sir. :?

Well, he did join on Groundhog Day. Maybe he thinks he joined today.

I LOLed

 

['68griz]

I don't know how long I've been a member; I could look and find out, but I honestly don't care. All I can say is that I have little faith in what this team can do, in large part because I have so little faith in the current coaching staff. I will ALWAYS be a Griz fan; I will ALWAYS show up at home games and some away games. But, than doesn't mean I won't be critical on some aspects of what the team does or than I will support the coaching staff without question. I will always be on the side of the players -- they are what make/break the UM Griz team.

Surely you jest sir. :?

Well, he did join on Groundhog Day. Maybe he thinks he joined today.

I LOLed

So did I.

 

[grizfan47]

Everyone take a breath. It was a good post but I wouldn't be so hard on fans that want to vent. Griz fans are VERY passionate and that is one of the things that make Griz Nation exceptional. Many of us whine and vent while in the emotion of the game. That emotion may last until Thursday. Simply the way the game was played may define our Griz mood for a few days. After Thursday we will begin to look to the next game and predict a huge win against who ever we are playing.

There are some that are going to bitch and whine no matter what. I suspect they are much un-happier in their daily lives. But for most of us, it is emotion and the love of the Griz that make us come back to our "AA" of football, our support group, egriz. We want to be encouraged by others or merely have someone else agree with us in our pain. At the end of the day we support this team and will defend them against all other teams fans.

Coaches expect to be second guessed. That is part of the game. They also get all the praise and have one of the coolest jobs in the world. So cut us a little slack when we whine about them. It is not personal and it doesn't matter if their name is Delaney, Hauch or Phflugrad (sp). We will complain about any of them on any given Sunday. The kids, that is a different story. They should be off limits to individual persecution.

We all hope for fast recoveries to those guys that are hurting and hurt. Go Griz :thumb:

 

[wbtfg]

i know that JJ is vital to this team's success, but seeing him on crutches after the game.....calling him "christ on a crutch..."

c'mon....seems excessive.

although, he's survived this o-line's attempts to crucify him. sort of christ-like, i guess. i'll be a faithful disciple when i see him survive the entire season with 12 defenders trying to sack him to the cross on every snap.

Think he can turn my water into Cold Smoke?

 

[mtgrizrule]

Everyone take a breath. It was a good post but I wouldn't be so hard on fans that want to vent. Griz fans are VERY passionate and that is one of the things that make Griz Nation exceptional. Many of us whine and vent while in the emotion of the game. That emotion may last until Thursday. Simply the way the game was played may define our Griz mood for a few days. After Thursday we will begin to look to the next game and predict a huge win against who ever we are playing.

There are some that are going to bitch and whine no matter what. I suspect they are much un-happier in their daily lives. But for most of us, it is emotion and the love of the Griz that make us come back to our "AA" of football, our support group, egriz. We want to be encouraged by others or merely have someone else agree with us in our pain. At the end of the day we support this team and will defend them against all other teams fans.

Coaches expect to be second guessed. That is part of the game. They also get all the praise and have one of the coolest jobs in the world. So cut us a little slack when we whine about them. It is not personal and it doesn't matter if their name is Delaney, Hauch or Phflugrad (sp). We will complain about any of them on any given Sunday. The kids, that is a different story. They should be off limits to individual persecution.

We all hope for fast recoveries to those guys that are hurting and hurt. Go Griz :thumb:

Well stated! :clap: :thumb:

 

[smarsh]

i know that JJ is vital to this team's success, but seeing him on crutches after the game.....calling him "christ on a crutch..."

c'mon....seems excessive.

although, he's survived this o-line's attempts to crucify him. sort of christ-like, i guess. i'll be a faithful disciple when i see him survive the entire season with 12 defenders trying to sack him to the cross on every snap.

Think he can turn my water into Cold Smoke?

insha'allah

 

[SoldierGriz]

:thumb: thanks AZ! Love it! :clap:

 

[JayLarson]

I wonder if his absence will even be noticed.....EGriz seems to have a bunch of folks on here that only seem to kiss Brint's ass and never have an opinion of their own. This is a fan forum, where many of us come to vent our frustrations and see if other fans see what we are seeing, and either agree or disagree on that. The frustration on here is not the 4-2 record, it is the lack of any sign of improvement in the matters that we have the problems with. I for one will not miss someone that is whining about all of us that have issues that we want to see resolved with our beloved Griz.

 

[Eriul]

I wonder if his absence will even be noticed.....EGriz seems to have a bunch of folks on here that only seem to kiss Brint's ass and never have an opinion of their own. This is a fan forum, where many of us come to vent our frustrations and see if other fans see what we are seeing, and either agree or disagree on that. The frustration on here is not the 4-2 record, it is the lack of any sign of improvement in the matters that we have the problems with. I for one will not miss someone that is whining about all of us that have issues that we want to see resolved with our beloved Griz.

I like brint. He may sometimes try to turn shits into rainbows but I think he has a great perspective on the team with a very optimistic approach. I would rather read that than ag any day.

I think az has a point tho. We bitch a lot... But tbf the whole season has actually been quite painful to watch so far. At no point in this season have I even thought that we could make it to the nc and I realistically don't think it will happen and I think the griz should be competing for top 5 fcs teams every year and this year I just don't see it happening

 

[dupuyer griz]

I think the main problem is that there are a bunch of people on here saying be happy we're 4-2...I'm happy as shit we're 4-2 because we're pretty damn lucky to no be 2-4.

 

[PlayerRep]

I think the main problem is that there are a bunch of people on here saying be happy we're 4-2...I'm happy as shit we're 4-2 because we're pretty damn lucky to no be 2-4.

Could you explain how UM is "lucky" to be 4-2?

 

[dupuyer griz]

I think the main problem is that there are a bunch of people on here saying be happy we're 4-2...I'm happy as shit we're 4-2 because we're pretty damn lucky to no be 2-4.

Could you explain how UM is "lucky" to be 4-2?

Our stellar showings in both the South Dakota game as well as the North Dakota game. One ball bounces the other way and it's a different game. Specifically, if North Dakota doesn't snap it through the legs of the qb we don't get a safety and lose 13-14. They also fumbled on the 6 going in to score. We also were not able to put the boots to South Dakota and had to rely on 3 turnovers to keep them at bay in a 1 score game. The games could have easily gone the other way. Don't pretend like they couldn't have.

 

[PlayerRep]

I think the main problem is that there are a bunch of people on here saying be happy we're 4-2...I'm happy as shit we're 4-2 because we're pretty damn lucky to no be 2-4.

Could you explain how UM is "lucky" to be 4-2?

Our stellar showings in both the South Dakota game as well as the North Dakota game. One ball bounces the other way and it's a different game. Specifically, if North Dakota doesn't snap it through the legs of the qb we don't get a safety and lose 13-14. They also fumbled on the 6 going in to score. We also were not able to put the boots to South Dakota and had to rely on 3 turnovers to keep them at bay in a 1 score game. The games could have easily gone the other way. Don't pretend like they couldn't have.

UM controlled the SD game. UM gave up a late TD in the 4th. Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy 2 TD win. ND in fact got their bounce. They got the easy pick 6. While ND hung in there, and yes things can go wrong in close games, it was 15-0 late in the 4th with UM being largely in control--until ND eventually got a TD and then a pick 6. Had UM make its FG and extra point, and some say that the FG was actually good, then UM would have won the game without a FG at the end. The snaps by ND were bad, but they didn't necessarily cost ND any points. The UM defense was completely shutting down ND at those points of the game.

Had UM gotten pick 6's at the right times in the Wyo. and NDSU games, UM might have won those games. They didn't. Wyo. and NDSU successfully held off UM. They deserved to beat UM. Nevertheless, UM hung in those games, and with some breaks, the games would have been horse races at the end.

The big questions are whether UM's o-line can improve sufficiently, whether Henderson can get back to full speed, and whether the injury bug will eventually overcome UM. The defense is going to keep UM in most games and win some games. However, the offense needs to be better, help the defense, and score more points. We'll see. This is what sport is about. I will continue to root hard for the team and support the team. I suppose people like you will continue to have no faith and diss the team, and be bad fans.

 

[dupuyer griz]

I think the main problem is that there are a bunch of people on here saying be happy we're 4-2...I'm happy as shit we're 4-2 because we're pretty damn lucky to no be 2-4.

Could you explain how UM is "lucky" to be 4-2?

Our stellar showings in both the South Dakota game as well as the North Dakota game. One ball bounces the other way and it's a different game. Specifically, if North Dakota doesn't snap it through the legs of the qb we don't get a safety and lose 13-14. They also fumbled on the 6 going in to score. We also were not able to put the boots to South Dakota and had to rely on 3 turnovers to keep them at bay in a 1 score game. The games could have easily gone the other way. Don't pretend like they couldn't have.

UM controlled the SD game. UM gave up a late TD in the 4th. Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy 2 TD win. ND in fact got their bounce. They got the easy pick 6. While ND hung in there, and yes things can go wrong in close games, it was 15-0 late in the 4th with UM being largely in control--until ND eventually got a TD and then a pick 6. Had UM make its FG and extra point, and some say that the FG was actually good, then UM would have won the game without a FG at the end. The snaps by ND were bad, but they didn't necessarily cost ND any points. The UM defense was completely shutting down ND at those points of the game.

Had UM gotten pick 6's at the right times in the Wyo. and NDSU games, UM might have won those games. They didn't. Wyo. and NDSU successfully held off UM. They deserved to beat UM. Nevertheless, UM hung in those games, and with some breaks, the games would have been horse races at the end.

The big questions are whether UM's o-line can improve sufficiently, whether Henderson can get back to full speed, and whether the injury bug will eventually overcome UM. The defense is going to keep UM in most games and win some games. However, the offense needs to be better, help the defense, and score more points. We'll see. This is what sport is about. I will continue to root hard for the team and support the team. I suppose people like you will continue to have no faith and diss the team, and be bad fans.

Yes, god forbid someone point out that if the other team gets the bounces instead of us we lose. But it's ok for you to say if we get the bounces we win. This makes me a bad fan. Show me where I am dissing the team. Show me how I have NO faith. That's just your assertion on what I said. Facts aren't disses. We got the bounces and won. It could have gone the other way. You have to look at both sides. If you aren't looking at the good AND the bad, I would say you are the one that is a bad fan. I was adamant in pointing out I was happy with where we are and I have stated nothing but facts. I don't lie like some people do on here about being on a site that has existed for 12 years saying I have been posting for 15...

 

[PlayerRep]

Could you explain how UM is "lucky" to be 4-2?

Our stellar showings in both the South Dakota game as well as the North Dakota game. One ball bounces the other way and it's a different game. Specifically, if North Dakota doesn't snap it through the legs of the qb we don't get a safety and lose 13-14. They also fumbled on the 6 going in to score. We also were not able to put the boots to South Dakota and had to rely on 3 turnovers to keep them at bay in a 1 score game. The games could have easily gone the other way. Don't pretend like they couldn't have.

UM controlled the SD game. UM gave up a late TD in the 4th. Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy 2 TD win. ND in fact got their bounce. They got the easy pick 6. While ND hung in there, and yes things can go wrong in close games, it was 15-0 late in the 4th with UM being largely in control--until ND eventually got a TD and then a pick 6. Had UM make its FG and extra point, and some say that the FG was actually good, then UM would have won the game without a FG at the end. The snaps by ND were bad, but they didn't necessarily cost ND any points. The UM defense was completely shutting down ND at those points of the game.

Had UM gotten pick 6's at the right times in the Wyo. and NDSU games, UM might have won those games. They didn't. Wyo. and NDSU successfully held off UM. They deserved to beat UM. Nevertheless, UM hung in those games, and with some breaks, the games would have been horse races at the end.

The big questions are whether UM's o-line can improve sufficiently, whether Henderson can get back to full speed, and whether the injury bug will eventually overcome UM. The defense is going to keep UM in most games and win some games. However, the offense needs to be better, help the defense, and score more points. We'll see. This is what sport is about. I will continue to root hard for the team and support the team. I suppose people like you will continue to have no faith and diss the team, and be bad fans.

Yes, god forbid someone point out that if the other team gets the bounces instead of us we lose. But it's ok for you to say if we get the bounces we win. This makes me a bad fan. Show me where I am dissing the team. Show me how I have NO faith. That's just your assertion on what I said. Facts aren't disses. We got the bounces and won. It could have gone the other way. You have to look at both sides. If you aren't looking at the good AND the bad, I would say you are the one that is a bad fan. I was adamant in pointing out I was happy with where we are and I have stated nothing but facts. I don't lie like some people do on here about being on a site that has existed for 12 years saying I have been posting for 15...

You have a short memory. You made this post today. You were dissing individual players.

"

Re: Rate each O lineman based on his play so far

Postby dupuyer griz » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:57 pm
LT-F
LG-F
C-D
RG-D
RT-D

Yes I know there are some positions that have had numerous starters/players on the season. Keeping in mind that I believe in the named grades...
A-Excellent
B-Above Average
C-Average
D-Deficient
F-Failure

I don't honestly believe that any of the players is at an average level of play. No amount of mommy and daddy phone calls to the teacher will get me to change the grades to an A. Currently, our run game is deficient to failing against any real defense. Keep in mind that we are supposed to be a power running offense team, not a throw it up 60 times and run 4. Yes, we have good numbers against bad and lower level teams, but against good teams we are getting killed. Our quarterbacks have little to no time and have been running for their life."

 

[dupuyer griz]

Our stellar showings in both the South Dakota game as well as the North Dakota game. One ball bounces the other way and it's a different game. Specifically, if North Dakota doesn't snap it through the legs of the qb we don't get a safety and lose 13-14. They also fumbled on the 6 going in to score. We also were not able to put the boots to South Dakota and had to rely on 3 turnovers to keep them at bay in a 1 score game. The games could have easily gone the other way. Don't pretend like they couldn't have.

UM controlled the SD game. UM gave up a late TD in the 4th. Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy 2 TD win. ND in fact got their bounce. They got the easy pick 6. While ND hung in there, and yes things can go wrong in close games, it was 15-0 late in the 4th with UM being largely in control--until ND eventually got a TD and then a pick 6. Had UM make its FG and extra point, and some say that the FG was actually good, then UM would have won the game without a FG at the end. The snaps by ND were bad, but they didn't necessarily cost ND any points. The UM defense was completely shutting down ND at those points of the game.

Had UM gotten pick 6's at the right times in the Wyo. and NDSU games, UM might have won those games. They didn't. Wyo. and NDSU successfully held off UM. They deserved to beat UM. Nevertheless, UM hung in those games, and with some breaks, the games would have been horse races at the end.

The big questions are whether UM's o-line can improve sufficiently, whether Henderson can get back to full speed, and whether the injury bug will eventually overcome UM. The defense is going to keep UM in most games and win some games. However, the offense needs to be better, help the defense, and score more points. We'll see. This is what sport is about. I will continue to root hard for the team and support the team. I suppose people like you will continue to have no faith and diss the team, and be bad fans.

Yes, god forbid someone point out that if the other team gets the bounces instead of us we lose. But it's ok for you to say if we get the bounces we win. This makes me a bad fan. Show me where I am dissing the team. Show me how I have NO faith. That's just your assertion on what I said. Facts aren't disses. We got the bounces and won. It could have gone the other way. You have to look at both sides. If you aren't looking at the good AND the bad, I would say you are the one that is a bad fan. I was adamant in pointing out I was happy with where we are and I have stated nothing but facts. I don't lie like some people do on here about being on a site that has existed for 12 years saying I have been posting for 15...

You have a short memory. You made this post today. You were dissing individual players.

"

Re: Rate each O lineman based on his play so far

Postby dupuyer griz » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:57 pm
LT-F
LG-F
C-D
RG-D
RT-D

Yes I know there are some positions that have had numerous starters/players on the season. Keeping in mind that I believe in the named grades...
A-Excellent
B-Above Average
C-Average
D-Deficient
F-Failure

I don't honestly believe that any of the players is at an average level of play. No amount of mommy and daddy phone calls to the teacher will get me to change the grades to an A. Currently, our run game is deficient to failing against any real defense. Keep in mind that we are supposed to be a power running offense team, not a throw it up 60 times and run 4. Yes, we have good numbers against bad and lower level teams, but against good teams we are getting killed. Our quarterbacks have little to no time and have been running for their life."

Those are position grades. I never said this guy did this and it makes him a bad guy. I gave grades on how each position has done and provided facts to back it up if you would look back again. If you feel that a grade is a diss, you are what's wrong with our educational system. Would any of these kids or coaches give themselves an A or B for how they have done so far this year? I hope the answer is no.

 

[get'em_griz]

What's going on here in this thread?

... Oh, never mind.

 

[grizcountry420]

Again PR turns this into a pissing contest.. What the fvck is wrong with you?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

My only question is which Big Sky Conference team has the worst defense. It looks very close between EWU, MSU, Sac State and Idaho State. Given that we still have three of these four teams on our schedule, I'm not feeling all that bad about our prospects.

We'll see.

 

[PlayerRep]

UM controlled the SD game. UM gave up a late TD in the 4th. Otherwise it would have been a relatively easy 2 TD win. ND in fact got their bounce. They got the easy pick 6. While ND hung in there, and yes things can go wrong in close games, it was 15-0 late in the 4th with UM being largely in control--until ND eventually got a TD and then a pick 6. Had UM make its FG and extra point, and some say that the FG was actually good, then UM would have won the game without a FG at the end. The snaps by ND were bad, but they didn't necessarily cost ND any points. The UM defense was completely shutting down ND at those points of the game.

Had UM gotten pick 6's at the right times in the Wyo. and NDSU games, UM might have won those games. They didn't. Wyo. and NDSU successfully held off UM. They deserved to beat UM. Nevertheless, UM hung in those games, and with some breaks, the games would have been horse races at the end.

The big questions are whether UM's o-line can improve sufficiently, whether Henderson can get back to full speed, and whether the injury bug will eventually overcome UM. The defense is going to keep UM in most games and win some games. However, the offense needs to be better, help the defense, and score more points. We'll see. This is what sport is about. I will continue to root hard for the team and support the team. I suppose people like you will continue to have no faith and diss the team, and be bad fans.

Yes, god forbid someone point out that if the other team gets the bounces instead of us we lose. But it's ok for you to say if we get the bounces we win. This makes me a bad fan. Show me where I am dissing the team. Show me how I have NO faith. That's just your assertion on what I said. Facts aren't disses. We got the bounces and won. It could have gone the other way. You have to look at both sides. If you aren't looking at the good AND the bad, I would say you are the one that is a bad fan. I was adamant in pointing out I was happy with where we are and I have stated nothing but facts. I don't lie like some people do on here about being on a site that has existed for 12 years saying I have been posting for 15...

You have a short memory. You made this post today. You were dissing individual players.

"

Re: Rate each O lineman based on his play so far

Postby dupuyer griz » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:57 pm
LT-F
LG-F
C-D
RG-D
RT-D

Yes I know there are some positions that have had numerous starters/players on the season. Keeping in mind that I believe in the named grades...
A-Excellent
B-Above Average
C-Average
D-Deficient
F-Failure

I don't honestly believe that any of the players is at an average level of play. No amount of mommy and daddy phone calls to the teacher will get me to change the grades to an A. Currently, our run game is deficient to failing against any real defense. Keep in mind that we are supposed to be a power running offense team, not a throw it up 60 times and run 4. Yes, we have good numbers against bad and lower level teams, but against good teams we are getting killed. Our quarterbacks have little to no time and have been running for their life."

Those are position grades. I never said this guy did this and it makes him a bad guy. I gave grades on how each position has done and provided facts to back it up if you would look back again. If you feel that a grade is a diss, you are what's wrong with our educational system. Would any of these kids or coaches give themselves an A or B for how they have done so far this year? I hope the answer is no.

Educational system? This is a football message board. There is no problem with coaches/teachers giving grades and evaluating players (they should do that), but I do have a problem with no-nothings on the internet assigning grades to players when they have no clue what they're talking about. No one has claimed that you're saying someone is a bad guy, but you are clearly dissing the individual o-lineman.