Chalich is the type of QB this offense was made for.

[mtgrizrule]

Applause to Chalich and the WR's for record breaking performances. With that said, Stitt, nor anyone expected Chalich to have that kind of game. Just as nobody expected Simis to have against UND. However, in listening to past Stitt interviews, pregame, and post game, I did notice a little different demeanor and sense of thinking from Stitt, than in the past.

Normally, when asked about the qb situation, his status quo answer has always been something like, "Brady is the man, etc". When asked about this after the ISU game, Stitt did not give that status quo answer. He praised all 3 qbs (Phillips being the 3rd) for who they are and their abilities. He gave a rather long encouraging neutral answer. At the very least, Chalich did enough for Stitt and his coaches to dissect game film thoroughly, and maybe consider allowing Chalich more snaps, maybe a few series that are all his.

To me, his answer in post game was surprising and definitely not the standard quote Stitt response. Then again, I might be reading too much into this. I found it very surprising though. That is a credit to each of the GRIZ qb's, especially Chalich and Gustafson.

As for Chalich's performance, I feel he did one critical thing Stitt has been wanting GRIZ QB's do more often. That is to trust your WR's to make plays, more often. Chalich did that a lot against ISU. Brady plays more guarded, it seems. Chalich and his WRs looked a lot like what EWU has done the last several years with their QB's and WR's. Then again, Brady throws hard darts for the most part, regardless of distance or personnel. Chalich throws somewhat good coverage plays with more loft and touch than Gustafson. That kind of pass gives WR's better chances to win jump balls and use their skills more. Not many DB's are going to win jump ball lob like passes in single coverage, sometimes double coverage against a somewhat tall athletic, strong WR.

It was encouraging that those kind of passes were thrown to the bigger WR's, verses trying those kind of passes to JLM. Yes, when and who a QB throws those kind of passes to do make a huge difference. If the offense can continue to better utilize our WR's and their various skill sets, this offense will be hard to stop, regardless of who QB is.

Now, let's hope the Defense finds their consistency great game again.

 

[George Ferguson]

Applause to Chalich and the WR's for record breaking performances. With that said, Stitt, nor anyone expected Chalich to have that kind of game. Just as nobody expected Simis to have against UND. However, in listening to past Stitt interviews, pregame, and post game, I did notice a little different demeanor and sense of thinking from Stitt, than in the past.

Normally, when asked about the qb situation, his status quo answer has always been something like, "Brady is the man, etc". When asked about this after the ISU game, Stitt did not give that status quo answer. He praised all 3 qbs (Phillips being the 3rd) for who they are and their abilities. He gave a rather long encouraging neutral answer. At the very least, Chalich did enough for Stitt and his coaches to dissect game film thoroughly, and maybe consider allowing Chalich more snaps, maybe a few series that are all his.

To me, his answer in post game was surprising and definitely not the standard quote Stitt response. Then again, I might be reading too much into this. I found it very surprising though. That is a credit to each of the GRIZ qb's, especially Chalich and Gustafson.

As for Chalich's performance, I feel he did one critical thing Stitt has been wanting GRIZ QB's do more often. That is to trust your WR's to make plays, more often. Chalich did that a lot against ISU. Brady plays more guarded, it seems. Chalich and his WRs looked a lot like what EWU has done the last several years with their QB's and WR's. Then again, Brady throws hard darts for the most part, regardless of distance or personnel. Chalich throws somewhat good coverage plays with more loft and touch than Gustafson. That kind of pass gives WR's better chances to win jump balls and use their skills more. Not many DB's are going to win jump ball lob like passes in single coverage, sometimes double coverage against a somewhat tall athletic, strong WR.

It was encouraging that those kind of passes were thrown to the bigger WR's, verses trying those kind of passes to JLM. Yes, when and who a QB throws those kind of passes to do make a huge difference. If the offense can continue to better utilize our WR's and their various skill sets, this offense will be hard to stop, regardless of who QB is.

Now, let's hope the Defense finds their consistency great game again.

"Brady would have been the guy had he not been banged up," Stitt said. "We've got to get Brady back healthy and when he is he'll be back in there."

 

[grizaremoregooder]

Chad Chalich has earned a serious look moving forward at quarterback and I wouldn't be surprise to see em behind center next week in Greeley. He made all the throws yesterday AND HE CAN RUN.

 

[George Ferguson]

I'm just telling you, a dual-threat QB is not the priority in this offense, and some people seem to have a really hard time understanding or accepting it.

I think most people "get it." You seem to be the one struggling here, you have a hard time understanding or accepting why they don't see it, ultimately, as a winning strategy.

Of course, Stitt himself has done otherwise, successfully.

The Orediggers made good use of pistol and shotgun formations, typically with four-receiver personnel sets, Swett explained. An athletic quarterback then had his pick of passing options to run through.

Or perhaps take off and run on his own. Dvorak, the 6-foot QB, was the team's second-leading rusher.

http://missoulian.com/ravalli/sports/college/grizzlies/stitt-s-high-octane-offense-finds-a-home-in-big/article_8a3ab096-9e77-51fd-98c4-cf25185ad418.html

Of course, there was ol'Bob Stitt, chasing him down: "don't do that! I don't need one my most successful Mines quarterbacks, you know, being a dual threat!"

Because I don't care what the people in the stands think is or isn't a winning strategy. I leave that up to the guys who get paid 174,000 a year to decide that.

 

[G-BEARS]

Applause to Chalich and the WR's for record breaking performances. With that said, Stitt, nor anyone expected Chalich to have that kind of game. Just as nobody expected Simis to have against UND. However, in listening to past Stitt interviews, pregame, and post game, I did notice a little different demeanor and sense of thinking from Stitt, than in the past.

Normally, when asked about the qb situation, his status quo answer has always been something like, "Brady is the man, etc". When asked about this after the ISU game, Stitt did not give that status quo answer. He praised all 3 qbs (Phillips being the 3rd) for who they are and their abilities. He gave a rather long encouraging neutral answer. At the very least, Chalich did enough for Stitt and his coaches to dissect game film thoroughly, and maybe consider allowing Chalich more snaps, maybe a few series that are all his.

To me, his answer in post game was surprising and definitely not the standard quote Stitt response. Then again, I might be reading too much into this. I found it very surprising though. That is a credit to each of the GRIZ qb's, especially Chalich and Gustafson.

As for Chalich's performance, I feel he did one critical thing Stitt has been wanting GRIZ QB's do more often. That is to trust your WR's to make plays, more often. Chalich did that a lot against ISU. Brady plays more guarded, it seems. Chalich and his WRs looked a lot like what EWU has done the last several years with their QB's and WR's. Then again, Brady throws hard darts for the most part, regardless of distance or personnel. Chalich throws somewhat good coverage plays with more loft and touch than Gustafson. That kind of pass gives WR's better chances to win jump balls and use their skills more. Not many DB's are going to win jump ball lob like passes in single coverage, sometimes double coverage against a somewhat tall athletic, strong WR.

It was encouraging that those kind of passes were thrown to the bigger WR's, verses trying those kind of passes to JLM. Yes, when and who a QB throws those kind of passes to do make a huge difference. If the offense can continue to better utilize our WR's and their various skill sets, this offense will be hard to stop, regardless of who QB is.

Now, let's hope the Defense finds their consistency great game again.

"Brady would have been the guy had he not been banged up," Stitt said. "We've got to get Brady back healthy and when he is he'll be back in there."

You should post that again

 

[Maxim]

I'm just telling you, a dual-threat QB is not the priority in this offense, and some people seem to have a really hard time understanding or accepting it.

I think most people "get it." You seem to be the one struggling here, you have a hard time understanding or accepting why they don't see it, ultimately, as a winning strategy.

Of course, Stitt himself has done otherwise, successfully.

The Orediggers made good use of pistol and shotgun formations, typically with four-receiver personnel sets, Swett explained. An athletic quarterback then had his pick of passing options to run through.

Or perhaps take off and run on his own. Dvorak, the 6-foot QB, was the team's second-leading rusher.

http://missoulian.com/ravalli/sports/college/grizzlies/stitt-s-high-octane-offense-finds-a-home-in-big/article_8a3ab096-9e77-51fd-98c4-cf25185ad418.html

Of course, there was ol'Bob Stitt, chasing him down: "don't do that! I don't need one my most successful Mines quarterbacks, you know, being a dual threat!"

Because I don't care what the people in the stands think is or isn't a winning strategy. I leave that up to the guys who get paid 174,000 a year to decide that.

And the collective thoughts and observations of thousands of people could never be correct over one coach just because he gets paid to do it for a living? Wait how many high paid coaches get fired every year because they make all the right decisions?

 

[kyle_sample]

http://skylinesportsmt.com/sunday-notebook-no-qb-controversy-for-griz/

 

[PlayerRep]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

 

[Maxim]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

Boy this is a dumb post. Your saying if you rush for a first down on first down that doesn't extend a drive? Wow what game did u watch? Not to mention his 20 yd gain on 2nd and 13. But beyond his rushing yards he was able to extend plays with his legs and make money throw down field on a hand full of third downs. Nice attempt at spin though.

 

[Eriul]

I'm just telling you, a dual-threat QB is not the priority in this offense, and some people seem to have a really hard time understanding or accepting it.

I think most people "get it." You seem to be the one struggling here, you have a hard time understanding or accepting why they don't see it, ultimately, as a winning strategy.

Of course, Stitt himself has done otherwise, successfully.

The Orediggers made good use of pistol and shotgun formations, typically with four-receiver personnel sets, Swett explained. An athletic quarterback then had his pick of passing options to run through.

Or perhaps take off and run on his own. Dvorak, the 6-foot QB, was the team's second-leading rusher.

http://missoulian.com/ravalli/sports/college/grizzlies/stitt-s-high-octane-offense-finds-a-home-in-big/article_8a3ab096-9e77-51fd-98c4-cf25185ad418.html

Of course, there was ol'Bob Stitt, chasing him down: "don't do that! I don't need one my most successful Mines quarterbacks, you know, being a dual threat!"

Because I don't care what the people in the stands think is or isn't a winning strategy. I leave that up to the guys who get paid 174,000 a year to decide that.

And the collective thoughts and observations of thousands of people could never be correct over one coach just because he gets paid to do it for a living? Wait how many high paid coaches get fired every year because they make all the right decisions?

I would take an opinion of a coach over thousands of fans anyday

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

What I get is Chalich made positive plays in the run game at times there was nothing else there. He also extended many plays with his mobility which allowed receivers to come free and complete a pass for a positive play when nothing else was there. These are plays that BG can not make. If BG were playing, most of them would be a throw away negative run. One of the big struggles of the offense is being in long distance situations, and those runs on first and second down kept the offense out of long distance situations. One example that I am confident, is that BG would never have extended the play and made that first TD pass.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I would also like to say that I am not trying to advocate for either QB. I am just stating that a QB with more mobility than BG would be a positive for this offense. No matter how this year plays out, I hope to see this more in the future.

 

[PlayerRep]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

Boy this is a dumb post. Your saying if you rush for a first down on first down that doesn't extend a drive? Wow what game did u watch? Not to mention his 20 yd gain on 2nd and 13. But beyond his rushing yards he was able to extend plays with his legs and make money throw down field on a hand full of third downs. Nice attempt at spin though.

Those drives would likely have been "extended" on 2d or 3d down too, so no, I don't think a qb scramble on first down "extends" a drive. It's obvious you never played the game--and are also challenged by even watching it.

 

[PlayerRep]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

What I get is Chalich made positive plays in the run game at times there was nothing else there. He also extended many plays with his mobility which allowed receivers to come free and complete a pass for a positive play when nothing else was there. These are plays that BG can not make. If BG were playing, most of them would be a throw away negative run. One of the big struggles of the offense is being in long distance situations, and those runs on first and second down kept the offense out of long distance situations. One example that I am confident, is that BG would never have extended the play and made that first TD pass.

Yes, sometimes, but I thought he left the pocket and stopped looking for the pass too soon on several occasions. So we don't agree on the "nothing else" comment. Also, I think BG stands in the pocket nicely and makes some good throws by staying in the pocket. Better vision downfield when in the pocket.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Those drives would likely have been "extended" on 2d or 3d down too, so no

You can't assume that would be the case.

 

[PlayerRep]

I would also like to say that I am not trying to advocate for either QB. I am just stating that a QB with more mobility than BG would be a positive for this offense. No matter how this year plays out, I hope to see this more in the future.

And a QB who makes terrific calls and reads, stands in the pocket and makes nice throws, and has the confidence of his offense and his coaches, is also positive for this offense.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

I'm sure there are "thousands of fans" that think Gustafson should start too. Overall though, nobody evaluates the QBs more closely or are more qualified to make personnel decisions than the coaches that watch the film, structure the offense, and see the guys compete every day.

Wanting to make a QB change based on one game against a very poor defense is why thousands of those fans do not coach college football.

 

[Eriul]

I'm sure there are "thousands of fans" that think Gustafson should start too. Overall though, nobody evaluates the QBs more closely or are more qualified to make personnel decisions than the coaches that watch the film, structure the offense, and see the guys compete every day.

Wanting to make a QB change based on one game against a very poor defense is why thousands of those fans do not coach college football.

This

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

What I get is Chalich made positive plays in the run game at times there was nothing else there. He also extended many plays with his mobility which allowed receivers to come free and complete a pass for a positive play when nothing else was there. These are plays that BG can not make. If BG were playing, most of them would be a throw away negative run. One of the big struggles of the offense is being in long distance situations, and those runs on first and second down kept the offense out of long distance situations. One example that I am confident, is that BG would never have extended the play and made that first TD pass.

Yes, sometimes, but I thought he left the pocket and stopped looking for the pass too soon on several occasions. So we don't agree on the "nothing else" comment. Also, I think BG stands in the pocket nicely and makes some good throws by staying in the pocket. Better vision downfield when in the pocket.

Seems that Chalich had pretty decent vision down the field yesterday. Chalich may move too soon, and BG may sit in the pocket nicely. But I also watch BG throw more balls away sitting in the pocket when Chalich didn't because he either made positive yards by either running or extending the play until someone came open. I get it, they are different QB's. I just think that the mobility shown by Chalich makes more things happen than BG sitting in the pocket, especially behind this OL. I also get that Stitt will play BG when healthy. So I am just hoping that in the future, the QB can be more mobile, because I think it will be a positive for the offense.

 

[G-BEARS]

Hav, maybe so but you are overlooking what the mobility of Chalich provided that BG is just incapable of. Chalich was able to extend plays and drives because he can run. I realize that none of those plays was a designed QB run. I don't think anyone is expecting a Lamar Jackson type QB, but I am confident that a QB with more mobility than BG would be much more effective in this offense.

I don't agree that Chalich extended drives because he can run. I just skimmed the play-by-play chart quickly. He didn't pick up any first downs running on 3d down or 4th down. He didn't pick up a first down on 2 runs on 3d down. Most of his runs/scrambles were on 1st down. He didn't have any called runs; all scrambles. I can see zero drives that he extended by running/scrambling, altho there may have been one or two that he scrambled and found a receiver on 3d down. That doesn't mean that BG wouldn't have hit a receiver from in the pocket on the same play.

Rush for minus 4 and fumble. Only run in first 4 drives. Threw pick in 4th drive.

Rushed for 6 on 1st down.

3d and 2 - rushed for no gain; sack on next play

Rushed for 4 on 1st down.

Rushed for 13 on 2d down, for a 1st down.

Rushed for 3 on 1st down.

Rushed for 17 on 1st down, for a 1st down.

2d and 11-sack.

2d and 2-sack.

3d and 6, got 2 yards, punt.

3d and goal for zero.

4th and goal for TD.

2d and 13, rushed for 20

1st and 10, rushed for 3.

I did this quickly, and may not have gotten everything right. But you get the point.

Boy this is a dumb post. Your saying if you rush for a first down on first down that doesn't extend a drive? Wow what game did u watch? Not to mention his 20 yd gain on 2nd and 13. But beyond his rushing yards he was able to extend plays with his legs and make money throw down field on a hand full of third downs. Nice attempt at spin though.

Good post, some people can't see clearly when they have an agenda.