Central Ty Gregorak discussion thread

[grizpack]

The current problems in Main Hall are much more serious than Gregorak moving to state college.

YEP!!! This is a blip. Main Hall is a road block.

 

[MT Head Guy]

Whatever.

I know nothing of the specifics of the situation but if any of the comments on here are accurate then it is reasonable to assume some of the following may have prompted this change;

A) As a new coach Stitt was obligated to retain Ty for some continuity. He may want his own guy.
B) If there was tension (likely) then each may have been wanting a change anyway.
C) Ty's wife just got a job in Bozeman. This could explain his jumping over to little brother.
D) Coach Choate needs huge instant help. Finding a decent D coach with Big Sky experience is huge.
E) Despite the talk, Choate doesn't have MT connections (beyond playing at Western). Ty does.
F) Cat's defense was worst in the nation. IF TY DOES ANYTHING HE WILL LOOK GOLDEN.
G) Ty probably got a pay raise and a great resume builder showing he can turn a defense around.

Gregorak did a good job in Missoula and always had a decent defense. On the other hand he also had some exceptional talent. With this he consistently fielded a good defense but not a great one. I hope he does well in Bozeman. I expect he will make their D respectable again. This will help him if he wants to climb the coaching ladder.

Ty is a good coach and I'm sorry to see him go, especially to Bozeman. Yet as I began this post, "Whatever".
I think what I'll miss most is the guy's passion on the sidelines. I'm confident we will find another defensive coordinator who can take the talent on the Grizzlies sideline and field a solid defense.

I like your post other than that part. Not true. Has connections from Sidney to Kalispell and everywhere in between. Know that for a fact. Also, helped recruited Matt Miller to Boise State and Will Dissly to the Huskies. Knows the state well.

Not as well as ty...I believe was the point. Which is undoubtedly true.

As it is written, it has nothing to do with TG - just a jab at Choate. But regardless of how you interpret- now the Cats have both who have co next ions in Montana.

 

[mtgrizrule]

How about we all let this play out before deciding how this will turn out for the programs and Gregorak?

Here are some reasons for the move.
(1) Even with Gregorak, the losses on defense will make it difficult for the GRIZ to have a better defense than this season. So Gregorak had a huge challenge this upcoming season for his defense. Meanwhile at State College, he is taking over 1 of the worse defenses in the nation, 2 years running. The defense can only improve. Translation: improved defense at State college= better looking resume.

(2) Most married couples want to be together, not a few hundred miles apart. Regardless of schools, personnel, rivalries, etc THIS had to play a major role.

(3) Professional animosity- Gregorak competed with Stitt for the head coaching job. Gregorak did not get the job, but was made part of the package for whichever coach that got the job (at the time that was a good decision by the U of M). Stitt and Gregorak were kind of forced together last season, and they made it work pretty well, considering the circumstances.

(4) Stitt and Ty saw the writing on the wall. He had to feel like a pawn in how everything played out with Stitt being hired. Meanwhile Stitt, really wanted the freedom to have his own DC in place. The outcome is a win for each side now. This can only improve team chemistry if Semore and/or Suiaunoa are named the new DC. Plus this opens up another defensive coaching position to possibly bring in another former GRIZ player into the fold. I doubt it will happen, but I'd love to Schillinger be brought back, now that he is coaching.

As for Gregorak, I am a little shocked this is the move he chose. He is taking a big gamble making the move has he has. I wish him the best. Now, egriz remains interesting until a new DC is named.

 

[gotgame75]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion. Drove me and a lot of fans nuts at times with his vulnerability on first drives, 3rd and longs, and trick plays. Poly had his # every year. And I don't know how you can argue against the talent we've had on D the last few years. Solid coach, not a irreplaceable by any means.

 

[Ken Jones]

Stitt Happens ... lol.

I don't understand why UofM supporters are so upset. When there are better opportunities for advancement in another organization, you consider them and make the best decision for yourself, not the company you're employed by. C'Mon Man. I'm more concerned 'bout the players that can't transfer without losing a year of eligibility. They're the ones that are gettin' phucked.

Stitt Happens.

 

[grizpack]

Whatever.

I know nothing of the specifics of the situation but if any of the comments on here are accurate then it is reasonable to assume some of the following may have prompted this change;

A) As a new coach Stitt was obligated to retain Ty for some continuity. He may want his own guy.
B) If there was tension (likely) then each may have been wanting a change anyway.
C) Ty's wife just got a job in Bozeman. This could explain his jumping over to little brother.
D) Coach Choate needs huge instant help. Finding a decent D coach with Big Sky experience is huge.
E) Despite the talk, Choate doesn't have MT connections (beyond playing at Western). Ty does.
F) Cat's defense was worst in the nation. IF TY DOES ANYTHING HE WILL LOOK GOLDEN.
G) Ty probably got a pay raise and a great resume builder showing he can turn a defense around.

Gregorak did a good job in Missoula and always had a decent defense. On the other hand he also had some exceptional talent. With this he consistently fielded a good defense but not a great one. I hope he does well in Bozeman. I expect he will make their D respectable again. This will help him if he wants to climb the coaching ladder.

Ty is a good coach and I'm sorry to see him go, especially to Bozeman. Yet as I began this post, "Whatever".
I think what I'll miss most is the guy's passion on the sidelines. I'm confident we will find another defensive coordinator who can take the talent on the Grizzlies sideline and field a solid defense.

1982 hits on a great point. Ty has a new(er) wife, who played for the Cats. (Did I see someone say she just took a job there?) Ty has already gone through a divorce. This may have a lot to do with it. Happy Wife = Happier Life???

Not sure if it was the cause, as I have heard the rumors of friction too (caused by both sides). But it was probably a factor, especially if she just got a job there.

 

[marceagfan5]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion. Drove me and a lot of fans nuts at times with his vulnerability on first drives, 3rd and longs, and trick plays. Poly had his # every year. And I don't know how you can argue against the talent we've had on D the last few years. Solid coach, not a irreplaceable by any means.

I think he was a lot better than he is getting credit for, and I'm not even a big fan of the Griz. The Griz consistently fielded a top 3 or 4 defense in the conference when he was a DC, last years Griz D was really good, this years was good not great but they kept the Griz in a ton of games. Its funny how everyone is getting on TG as if everything was his fault when the majority of the problems the Griz had this year were on O, not D.

This will be a tough loss for the Griz and it may result in more than just TG if any recruits and or position coaches follow suit.

 

[Counter Assault]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion. Drove me and a lot of fans nuts at times with his vulnerability on first drives, 3rd and longs, and trick plays. Poly had his # every year. And I don't know how you can argue against the talent we've had on D the last few years. Solid coach, not a irreplaceable by any means.

Who are you trying to kid? The Griz have had great defenses in the last several years, particularly in light of losing JJ and the whole "scandal phase." The defense was one of the main, if not primary, reasons you contended the last couple of years. Leaders in sacks, TFL's, RZ defense, NFL recruits, beat NDSU, beat App State. Several other huge wins that I can't remember. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think Ty was anything but STELLAR with the Griz defense. -Not Smack-

 

[grizindabox]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion. Drove me and a lot of fans nuts at times with his vulnerability on first drives, 3rd and longs, and trick plays. Poly had his # every year. And I don't know how you can argue against the talent we've had on D the last few years. Solid coach, not a irreplaceable by any means.

I think he was a lot better than he is getting credit for, and I'm not even a big fan of the Griz. The Griz consistently fielded a top 3 or 4 defense in the conference when he was a DC, last years Griz D was really good, this years was good not great, they kept the Griz in a ton of games. Its funny how everyone is getting on TG as if everything was his fault when the majority of the problems the Griz had this year were on O, not D.

This will be a tough loss for the Griz and it may result in more than just TG if any recruits and or position coaches follow suit.

marc...just to add something...Stitt had pretty much already switched DC's after the PSU game...Ty worked on implementing the game plan...but he was not involved in the actual defensive gameplan....TG was a dead man walking in Missoula...

 

[SaskGriz]

Great job to all those UM grads on Twitter today.

@ajmazzolini

"Days like today remind me how few people on the internet know the difference between trader and traitor."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Kind of like on eGriz: how many posters have been band??? For the love of all that is holy - it's BANNED!

Thank you!!!! You are as we say "a top shelf lass" "For the love of all that is holy" is an excellent quote

 

[gotgame75]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion. Drove me and a lot of fans nuts at times with his vulnerability on first drives, 3rd and longs, and trick plays. Poly had his # every year. And I don't know how you can argue against the talent we've had on D the last few years. Solid coach, not a irreplaceable by any means.

Who are you trying to kid? The Griz have had great defenses in the last several years, particularly in light of losing JJ and the whole "scandal phase." The defense was one of the main, if not primary, reasons you contended the last couple of years. Leaders in sacks, TFL's, RZ defense, NFL recruits, beat NDSU, beat App State. Several other huge wins that I can't remember. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think Ty was anything but STELLAR with the Griz defense. -Not Smack-

There are plenty of fans here that would disagree with the description "stellar". He is above average. Fantastic position coach. Great recruiter and motivator. Scheme left a lot to be desired. Nowhere near a Breske. Which is exactly the reason you've seen him stay here for most of the last decade.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

It will make it all the more sweet when we drop 50+ on them next year...So could Legi be the next DC??

Are there as many toilets to clean now that WTI is below $36 BG?

 

[Counter Assault]

There are plenty of fans here that would disagree with the description "stellar". He is above average. Fantastic position coach. Great recruiter and motivator. Scheme left a lot to be desired. Nowhere near a Breske. Which is exactly the reason you've seen him stay here for most of the last decade.

I slightly disagree with your logic there. He was relegated to Montana because he followed Bobby Boy to UNLV and got arrested in Colorado during that time for having a "The Hangover" experience. Pflu and "the system" were gracious enough to get him back. He got a hickey on his resume during that 10 years that prevented him from going higher.

 

[grizcountry420]

2011 Griz D ranked: 26th
2012 Griz D ranked: 66th
2013 Griz D ranked: 56th
2014 Grix D ranked: 39th
2015 Griz D ranked: 57th

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Whatever.

I know nothing of the specifics of the situation but if any of the comments on here are accurate then it is reasonable to assume some of the following may have prompted this change;

A) As a new coach Stitt was obligated to retain Ty for some continuity. He may want his own guy.
B) If there was tension (likely) then each may have been wanting a change anyway.
C) Ty's wife just got a job in Bozeman. This could explain his jumping over to little brother.
D) Coach Choate needs huge instant help. Finding a decent D coach with Big Sky experience is huge.
E) Despite the talk, Choate doesn't have MT connections (beyond playing at Western). Ty does.
F) Cat's defense was worst in the nation. IF TY DOES ANYTHING HE WILL LOOK GOLDEN.
G) Ty probably got a pay raise and a great resume builder showing he can turn a defense around.

Gregorak did a good job in Missoula and always had a decent defense. On the other hand he also had some exceptional talent. With this he consistently fielded a good defense but not a great one. I hope he does well in Bozeman. I expect he will make their D respectable again. This will help him if he wants to climb the coaching ladder.

Ty is a good coach and I'm sorry to see him go, especially to Bozeman. Yet as I began this post, "Whatever".
I think what I'll miss most is the guy's passion on the sidelines. I'm confident we will find another defensive coordinator who can take the talent on the Grizzlies sideline and field a solid defense.

1982 hits on a great point. Ty has a new(er) wife, who played for the Cats. (Did I see someone say she just took a job there?) Ty has already gone through a divorce. This may have a lot to do with it. Happy Wife = Happier Life???

Not sure if it was the cause, as I have heard the rumors of friction too (caused by both sides). But it was probably a factor, especially if she just got a job there.

Cat wife..shitty life!

 

[stubbins]

There are plenty of fans here that would disagree with the description "stellar". He is above average. Fantastic position coach. Great recruiter and motivator. Scheme left a lot to be desired. Nowhere near a Breske. Which is exactly the reason you've seen him stay here for most of the last decade.

I slightly disagree with your logic there. He was relegated to Montana because he followed Bobby Boy to UNLV and got arrested in Colorado during that time for having a "The Hangover" experience. Pflu and "the system" were gracious enough to get him back. He got a hickey on his resume during that 10 years that prevented him from going higher.

He wasn't going anywhere "higher". Paulson had better defenses than TG did for more years, and he couldn't go anywhere.

 

[UMcheer2000]

I understand thanking TG for his time at The UM, but WHY in the world would you congratulate your rival?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/umontana/status/676482282715131904[/tweet]

Probably a backhanded compliment...

 

[UMGriz75]

Wow, this is kind of Huge, unexpected news. The Bobcats instantly get better on D and this does hurt the Griz, I don't care how you spin it, this hurts the Griz.

I agree.

Really??? You were that impressed with Ty, huh??? Good guy, related well with the players and good motivator, but not at all a spectacular scheme guy by any notion.

Root Sports Play analyst, Taylor Barton, surely a neutral but informed observer, termed Gregorak's defenses as "masterful," -- a great deal of respect for the guy.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Whatever.

I know nothing of the specifics of the situation but if any of the comments on here are accurate then it is reasonable to assume some of the following may have prompted this change;

A) As a new coach Stitt was obligated to retain Ty for some continuity. He may want his own guy.
B) If there was tension (likely) then each may have been wanting a change anyway.
C) Ty's wife just got a job in Bozeman. This could explain his jumping over to little brother.
D) Coach Choate needs huge instant help. Finding a decent D coach with Big Sky experience is huge.
E) Despite the talk, Choate doesn't have MT connections (beyond playing at Western). Ty does.
F) Cat's defense was worst in the nation. IF TY DOES ANYTHING HE WILL LOOK GOLDEN.
G) Ty probably got a pay raise and a great resume builder showing he can turn a defense around.

Gregorak did a good job in Missoula and always had a decent defense. On the other hand he also had some exceptional talent. With this he consistently fielded a good defense but not a great one. I hope he does well in Bozeman. I expect he will make their D respectable again. This will help him if he wants to climb the coaching ladder.

Ty is a good coach and I'm sorry to see him go, especially to Bozeman. Yet as I began this post, "Whatever".
I think what I'll miss most is the guy's passion on the sidelines. I'm confident we will find another defensive coordinator who can take the talent on the Grizzlies sideline and field a solid defense.

I like your post other than that part. Not true. Has connections from Sidney to Kalispell and everywhere in between. Know that for a fact. Also, helped recruited Matt Miller to Boise State and Will Dissly to the Huskies. Knows the state well.

Like the Universities mentioned had no draw for the recruit, only Choate. :roll: Well MSU ain't no UW or BSU.

All I'm saying is that the guy has family in Montana and knows the state. Has recruited it while at Washington and Boise State. That is all. Anyway, we still have a ways to go to re-establish any identity on defense. The Griz have some fantastic, young linebackers coming up and their secondary should be strong next year. Defensive line will needs some work along Kidder. Griz players always play hard anyway so I don't see too big of a drop-off.

U of M made Ty and his Montana connections, Ty didn't make Montana connections for U of M.

 

[grizindabox]

There are plenty of fans here that would disagree with the description "stellar". He is above average. Fantastic position coach. Great recruiter and motivator. Scheme left a lot to be desired. Nowhere near a Breske. Which is exactly the reason you've seen him stay here for most of the last decade.

I slightly disagree with your logic there. He was relegated to Montana because he followed Bobby Boy to UNLV and got arrested in Colorado during that time for having a "The Hangover" experience. Pflu and "the system" were gracious enough to get him back. He got a hickey on his resume during that 10 years that prevented him from going higher.

He wasn't going anywhere "higher". Paulson had better defenses than TG did for more years, and he couldn't go anywhere.

I couldn't stand Paulson as DC either....