Cat's offensive Line key to their success

[Chester Cheetah]

Part of it is UM's defense is better than MSU's. No arguing that at this time. Another part of it is that Cats have already played 3 of the top 9 offenses nationally. UM hasn't played anybody better than 30 nationally. That will skew the stats. 2nd half of the season will tell the story. UM plays 3 of the top ten offenses. Cats only play one team inside the top 50 (actually 2 - Cal Poly is 49).

"Part" of the UM defense is better. Nope, UM's defense is way better than the Cat's defense. We'll see how the Cat o-line holds up against the UM d-line. The Cat O did nothing against the good defense of Arkansas St, and was only okay against UND.

Don't think Cat fans should be crowing about its defense giving up only 52 and 59 points to EWU and SS.

By the way, Central Arkansas is top 10 in scoring, but only 21 in Total Offense. 70 of their points came against Houston Baptist. Part of the reason that those teams are have such high scoring, is because they scored so much against the Cat defense.

Yes, that is what the stats show today. However, you know as well as anyone else that come the afternoon of November 22nd - all the defensive statistics for the Cats and griz will be much closer to each other than they are now. We finally get to play some teams that don't have high octane offenses, and you finally get to play some teams that do.

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

The only defense that the Cats have played that can be considered good is UND, UND's other FCS opponents have averaged 12.5 ppg, the Cats scored 29 pts, that is over double what the other FCS teams averaged against UND.

 

[PlayerRep]

"Part" of the UM defense is better. Nope, UM's defense is way better than the Cat's defense. We'll see how the Cat o-line holds up against the UM d-line. The Cat O did nothing against the good defense of Arkansas St, and was only okay against UND.

Don't think Cat fans should be crowing about its defense giving up only 52 and 59 points to EWU and SS.

By the way, Central Arkansas is top 10 in scoring, but only 21 in Total Offense. 70 of their points came against Houston Baptist. Part of the reason that those teams are have such high scoring, is because they scored so much against the Cat defense.

Yes, that is what the stats show today. However, you know as well as anyone else that come the afternoon of November 22nd - all the defensive statistics for the Cats and griz will be much closer to each other than they are now. We finally get to play some teams that don't have high octane offenses, and you finally get to play some teams that do.

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

The only defense that the Cats have played that can be considered good is UND, UND's other FCS opponents have averaged 12.5 ppg, the Cats scored 29 pts, that is over double what the other FCS teams averaged against UND.

Nope, Cats played Arkansas St. Arkansas St appears to have had a pretty good defense, not giving up more than 14 points to any team other than Tennessee and Miami. Cats scored 10 against them. The Cat drive for TD came off a turnover and was 4 plays for 7 yards. Cats had 10 FD's and 228 total yards. Yes, that was the first game of the season, but at least at that point, a good defense stopped the Cats cold. UND, a pretty good defense, held the Cats to about 20 points under their average.

 

[Catsrback76]

Cats are giving up 39 points per game to D-I opponents. What do you attribute the lack of "success" of the defense to? By contrast, UM is giving up 17.

So, what about "Cat's offensive Line key to their success" don't you get???

 

[poorgriz]

Part of it is UM's defense is better than MSU's. No arguing that at this time. Another part of it is that Cats have already played 3 of the top 9 offenses nationally. UM hasn't played anybody better than 30 nationally. That will skew the stats. 2nd half of the season will tell the story. UM plays 3 of the top ten offenses. Cats only play one team inside the top 50 (actually 2 - Cal Poly is 49).

"Part" of the UM defense is better. Nope, UM's defense is way better than the Cat's defense. We'll see how the Cat o-line holds up against the UM d-line. The Cat O did nothing against the good defense of Arkansas St, and was only okay against UND.

Don't think Cat fans should be crowing about its defense giving up only 52 and 59 points to EWU and SS.

By the way, Central Arkansas is top 10 in scoring, but only 21 in Total Offense. 70 of their points came against Houston Baptist. Part of the reason that those teams are have such high scoring, is because they scored so much against the Cat defense.

Yes, that is what the stats show today. However, you know as well as anyone else that come the afternoon of November 22nd - all the defensive statistics for the Cats and griz will be much closer to each other than they are now. We finally get to play some teams that don't have high octane offenses, and you finally get to play some teams that do.

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

So are you disagreeing that by the end of the season you'll see the defensive stats between Cats and griz look a lot closer to each other? And as long as you're concerned, Ron Ash is doing great. I just talked to him a few days ago. How is your head coach Mick Dennehy doing?

 

[Chester Cheetah]

Yes, that is what the stats show today. However, you know as well as anyone else that come the afternoon of November 22nd - all the defensive statistics for the Cats and griz will be much closer to each other than they are now. We finally get to play some teams that don't have high octane offenses, and you finally get to play some teams that do.

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

The only defense that the Cats have played that can be considered good is UND, UND's other FCS opponents have averaged 12.5 ppg, the Cats scored 29 pts, that is over double what the other FCS teams averaged against UND.

Nope, Cats played Arkansas St. Arkansas St appears to have had a pretty good defense, not giving up more than 14 points to any team other than Tennessee and Miami. Cats scored 10 against them. The Cat drive for TD came off a turnover and was 4 plays for 7 yards. Cats had 10 FD's and 228 total yards. Yes, that was the first game of the season, but at least at that point, a good defense stopped the Cats cold. UND, a pretty good defense, held the Cats to about 20 points under their average.

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

 

[Pin2Win]

Yes, that is what the stats show today. However, you know as well as anyone else that come the afternoon of November 22nd - all the defensive statistics for the Cats and griz will be much closer to each other than they are now. We finally get to play some teams that don't have high octane offenses, and you finally get to play some teams that do.

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

The only defense that the Cats have played that can be considered good is UND, UND's other FCS opponents have averaged 12.5 ppg, the Cats scored 29 pts, that is over double what the other FCS teams averaged against UND.

Nope, Cats played Arkansas St. Arkansas St appears to have had a pretty good defense, not giving up more than 14 points to any team other than Tennessee and Miami. Cats scored 10 against them. The Cat drive for TD came off a turnover and was 4 plays for 7 yards. Cats had 10 FD's and 228 total yards. Yes, that was the first game of the season, but at least at that point, a good defense stopped the Cats cold. UND, a pretty good defense, held the Cats to about 20 points under their average.

Are you really trying to make a point that the Cats O is not that good? In the Ark State game, the offense looked totally vanilla compared to now. Would MSU set them on fire now? No, I won't take that leap. But ASU is a legit FBS team whose only losses are to Miami and Tennessee. And by the way, the UND game was played in pretty terrible weather (25 mph winds/rain). That played a factor in that game in addition to UND's defense being good. The Cats still scored twice UND's FCS average.

 

[Grizbeer]

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

The 'Cats offense scored 3 more points against UND than UM's did. 'Cats were at home, and had their starting QB for the entire game. Griz were on the road and had a back-up QB for 2.5 quarters, were missing their starting TE and one of the best receivers in the conference. And it was a revenge game for UND after the UND defense was embarrassed a year earlier. Given all that, do you think the 'Cats offense is "significantly better" based on the outcome of the UND game?

 

[Robsnotes4u]

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

The 'Cats offense scored 3 more points against UND than UM's did. 'Cats were at home, and had their starting QB for the entire game. Griz were on the road and had a back-up QB for 2.5 quarters, were missing their starting TE and one of the best receivers in the conference. And it was a revenge game for UND after the UND defense was embarrassed a year earlier. Given all that, do you think the 'Cats offense is "significantly better" based on the outcome of the UND game?

You might want to do a little research and see how many starters the Cats were without, like the whole receiving corp.

"Starters Brian Flotkoetter and Tanner Roderick will each miss today's game after injuries suffered last week. Manny Kalfell is also out, and add in the absence of David Dash and MSU's receiving corp is decimated. The Cats will start true freshmen Justin Paige and Mitchell Herbert and Will Krolick."

 

[zulacatfan]

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

The 'Cats offense scored 3 more points against UND than UM's did. 'Cats were at home, and had their starting QB for the entire game. Griz were on the road and had a back-up QB for 2.5 quarters, were missing their starting TE and one of the best receivers in the conference. And it was a revenge game for UND after the UND defense was embarrassed a year earlier. Given all that, do you think the 'Cats offense is "significantly better" based on the outcome of the UND game?

You might want to do a little research and see how many starters the Cats were without, like the whole receiving corp.

"Starters Brian Flotkoetter and Tanner Roderick will each miss today's game after injuries suffered last week. Manny Kalfell is also out, and add in the absence of David Dash and MSU's receiving corp is decimated. The Cats will start true freshmen Justin Paige and Mitchell Herbert and Will Krolick."

I believe Anthony Knight (RB) was out as well...

 

[Robsnotes4u]

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

The 'Cats offense scored 3 more points against UND than UM's did. 'Cats were at home, and had their starting QB for the entire game. Griz were on the road and had a back-up QB for 2.5 quarters, were missing their starting TE and one of the best receivers in the conference. And it was a revenge game for UND after the UND defense was embarrassed a year earlier. Given all that, do you think the 'Cats offense is "significantly better" based on the outcome of the UND game?

You might want to do a little research and see how many starters the Cats were without, like the whole receiving corp.

"Starters Brian Flotkoetter and Tanner Roderick will each miss today's game after injuries suffered last week. Manny Kalfell is also out, and add in the absence of David Dash and MSU's receiving corp is decimated. The Cats will start true freshmen Justin Paige and Mitchell Herbert and Will Krolick."

I believe Anthony Knight (RB) was out as well...

I am sure you are correct, some defensive guys also. So do you think without the receivers and Knight the offense might have changed a little? Not taking anything from the Sioux, after being at the Griz/Sioux game, I would say they have the best defense in the BSC.

 

[Grizbeer]

The 'Cats offense scored 3 more points against UND than UM's did. 'Cats were at home, and had their starting QB for the entire game. Griz were on the road and had a back-up QB for 2.5 quarters, were missing their starting TE and one of the best receivers in the conference. And it was a revenge game for UND after the UND defense was embarrassed a year earlier. Given all that, do you think the 'Cats offense is "significantly better" based on the outcome of the UND game?

You might want to do a little research and see how many starters the Cats were without, like the whole receiving corp.

"Starters Brian Flotkoetter and Tanner Roderick will each miss today's game after injuries suffered last week. Manny Kalfell is also out, and add in the absence of David Dash and MSU's receiving corp is decimated. The Cats will start true freshmen Justin Paige and Mitchell Herbert and Will Krolick."

I believe Anthony Knight (RB) was out as well...

I am sure you are correct, some defensive guys also. So do you think without the receivers and Knight the offense might have changed a little? Not taking anything from the Sioux, after being at the Griz/Sioux game, I would say they have the best defense in the BSC.

Yep, 'Cats were without some key players as well. Griz were also missing Naccarato, Whitted, Wollcott, Reese, Strham, and Shaw, and Van was out a good portion of the 2nd 1/2 with an injury. I might have missed a couple others. I am sure UND might have had a couple kids out as well. But I don't see anyone on either list as important to their teams as Johnson and Henderson, individually and combined, are are for Montana.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

The only "stat" that matters is the one in the win/loss column after we play you Cat losers.

if you win, I'll congratulate you. If not, I'll make fun of you. Just like always.

 

[Pin2Win]

The only "stat" that matters is the one in the win/loss column after we play you Cat losers.

if you win, I'll congratulate you. If not, I'll make fun of you. Just like always.

Wouldn't want it any other way. :thumb:

 

[AllWeatherFan]

 

[Umista]

Cat weeds are not falling into dormancy quite as soon as I expected.

Ah the temps and msu's global warming issues are becoming music.

Forget the O line, msu is having fun with the mad Russian running wild and of course he throws the ball under receivers and that is the key. O line is just average!

Russian player be da guy he no need protection....music until the song stops.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

Cat weeds are not falling into dormancy quite as soon as I expected.

Ah the temps and msu's global warming issues are becoming music.

Forget the O line, msu is having fun with the mad Russian running wild and of course he throws the ball under receivers and that is the key. O line is just average!

Russian player be da guy he no need protection....music until the song stops.

CLEARLY, you've never played the game.

 

[Umista]

Longtime scat,

Clearly a TROLL.

 

[poorgriz]

Cat weeds are not falling into dormancy quite as soon as I expected.

Ah the temps and msu's global warming issues are becoming music.

Forget the O line, msu is having fun with the mad Russian running wild and of course he throws the ball under receivers and that is the key. O line is just average!

Russian player be da guy he no need protection....music until the song stops.

Weird post, as usual.

 

[PlayerRep]

Cat weeds are not falling into dormancy quite as soon as I expected.

Ah the temps and msu's global warming issues are becoming music.

Forget the O line, msu is having fun with the mad Russian running wild and of course he throws the ball under receivers and that is the key. O line is just average!

Russian player be da guy he no need protection....music until the song stops.

Weird post, as usual.

How's your buddy Ron Ash doing?

 

[Mr. Greenjeans]

You keep forgetting that the Cats O has not performed well against good defenses. You should be noting that you'll have to see how the Cats' O will do against better defenses, like UM's. You act like offense is the key to football success. It's equally the defense. Most Griz fans can admit that it's offense has not been strong, especially against stronger defenses. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Cat defense has been pretty bad, or horrible, and the Cat offense has performed well only against weak defenses?

Oh, how's your good friend Ron Ash?

The only defense that the Cats have played that can be considered good is UND, UND's other FCS opponents have averaged 12.5 ppg, the Cats scored 29 pts, that is over double what the other FCS teams averaged against UND.

Nope, Cats played Arkansas St. Arkansas St appears to have had a pretty good defense, not giving up more than 14 points to any team other than Tennessee and Miami. Cats scored 10 against them. The Cat drive for TD came off a turnover and was 4 plays for 7 yards. Cats had 10 FD's and 228 total yards. Yes, that was the first game of the season, but at least at that point, a good defense stopped the Cats cold. UND, a pretty good defense, held the Cats to about 20 points under their average.

So your hypothesis is based solely on the FBS play up game? Like that is not an outlier or anything like that. Nice try, but you cant refute a point by spinning other irrelevant data. So why did the Cats score significantly more against UND than any other FCS opponent scored against UND?

Because no one cares and you are a troll and we dont give a shit...other than that...you are irrelevant, but nice try.