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Can't wait to see this recruit tearing up Wash-Griz...

CatFan22 said:
wbtfg said:
CatFan22 said:
Paytonlives said:
UM would have to release him from the scholly he signed.... doubtful.

Yeah because that NEVER happens. :roll:

I'd assume that if he was going to ask for a release, he'd have done so by now. It's getting pretty late in the game at this point.

Probably. But how many times do you see a school not granting a release. "Doubtful" probably isn't the most appropriate word.

And I'm not too worried about him leaving to play football somewhere else. I'm more worried about him leaving to run track at USC or UCLA. These schools see the #'s he is putting up and offer him a track scholarship. Football > Track but Track at USC may be greater to him than football at Montana.
 
CatFan22 said:
wbtfg said:
CatFan22 said:
Paytonlives said:
UM would have to release him from the scholly he signed.... doubtful.

Yeah because that NEVER happens. :roll:

I'd assume that if he was going to ask for a release, he'd have done so by now. It's getting pretty late in the game at this point.

Probably. But how many times do you see a school not granting a release. "Doubtful" probably isn't the most appropriate word.

So I guess in your mind doubtful is the same as never.... go back to the cat box.
 
Alot may depend on where his heart and future intentions lay. If he loves the game of football I do not see him signing anywhere else to run track. If he likes track better then its a possibility. I think UM offers him the opportunity to do both whereas some of the larger schools may not.

Then there is the question of future intentions. From what I've seen on his promo tapes, he has pro potential as a football player. He is presently a little small for an NFL linebacker but he is fast and certainly appears to have good instincts. Once he gets bigger and assuming his speed does not suffer from added weight he may have a future in the NFL, if not at LB, possibly as a return man or potentially as a running/fullback. As for track, I think this would be a more difficult road to pursue to wealth and prosperity. Despite improvements over the last 40 years, professional track athletes are still quite rare in the US.
 
Paytonlives said:
CatFan22 said:
wbtfg said:
CatFan22 said:
Yeah because that NEVER happens. :roll:

I'd assume that if he was going to ask for a release, he'd have done so by now. It's getting pretty late in the game at this point.

Probably. But how many times do you see a school not granting a release. "Doubtful" probably isn't the most appropriate word.

So I guess in your mind doubtful is the same as never.... go back to the cat box.

I'll be running back with my 4.2 forty.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
He is presently a little small for an NFL linebacker

I dunno, he's listed about the same as McSurdy. He'll get "bigger" so if he's good enough, he'll certainly get a look.
 
CatFan22 said:
I'll be running back with my 4.2 forty.

Who knows what he can run in the 40? I don't know that we have any info on what he's run in the 40.

And while it would be amazing if he ran a legit 4.2, we all know that guys that run 4.2 are rare indeed.

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he ran in the low-to-mid 4.3s. Donny Lisowski ran a 4.38 at his pro day, and he's not a 10.51 runner in the 100 meters. Also, Gamboa's strength as a sprinter is in his fast starts, which bodes well for a faster 40.

Doesn't matter that much. All we do know is that he's damn fast -- and he's a linebacker!
 
Says he ran a 4.387 forty in April of last year at a combine.
His ESPN recruiting profile lists a 4.57 forty.
 
CatFan22 said:
Says he ran a 4.387 forty in April of last year at a combine.
His ESPN recruiting profile lists a 4.57 forty.

...and he's faster this year (10.71 100 meters last year, 10.51 this year).
 
CrunchGriz said:
CatFan22 said:
Says he ran a 4.387 forty in April of last year at a combine.
His ESPN recruiting profile lists a 4.57 forty.

...and he's faster this year (10.71 100 meters last year, 10.51 this year).

I wouldn't take the 4.387 as that accurate as a local combine. But I would bet that's probably pretty close to what it is now as a progression up from the 4.57.
 
EverettGriz said:
Can we just all agree he's mighty effin' fast?

Thanks.

I don't think anyone said he wasn't. We're just practicing math and statistics, man. You gotta do something when you're done with school...
 
So because he's fast he doesn't want to be a Griz??? Guess I don't know why many are so pessimistic on here. Geez...you'd think we had a traumatic off season........... :o
 
AZDoc said:
So because he's fast he doesn't want to be a Griz??? Guess I don't know why many are so pessimistic on here. Geez...you'd think we had a traumatic off season........... :o

He is coming to one of the premier programs in the western United States. He is lucky to have us, not the other way around.
 
grizatwork said:
AZDoc said:
So because he's fast he doesn't want to be a Griz??? Guess I don't know why many are so pessimistic on here. Geez...you'd think we had a traumatic off season........... :o

He is coming to one of the premier programs in the western United States. He is lucky to have us, not the other way around.


This.
 
First off, this kid is freakishly fast for his speed. I'm shocked one of the larger schools in California didn't put out an offer on him, he's got a lot of potential.

Second, a 100m time really doesn't have a lot to do with a 40m time. Even if a guy has increased his 100m time, it does not mean that he will increase his 40m time. 40m is all about the start and acceleration. For instance, when I was in high school I ran around an 11.2-11.3 100m time, nothing special, just an average time. My 40 time was around a 4.7 because I had crappy acceleration and gained on people after ~30 or 40 meters. I had a bunch of kids on my football team who ran slower 100's, but had faster 40's. They really just don't correlate that much. Regardless, running an 10.5 at 210 (if he's still there) is crazy. Quite honestly, if he wants to maximize his potential he would lose 10-20 pounds and work on running under a 10 second 100. Hopefully he'll be a great football player here and not end up like Chris Wilson from MSU.



/For clarification, I know Chris Wilson is doing well right now (just won conference) but him choosing football was a mistake. He could have been running track at a better university with better coaches. Just my opinion though.
 
PTGrizzly said:
First off, this kid is freakishly fast for his speed.

What does that even mean?

PTGrizzly said:
For clarification, I know Chris Wilson is doing well right now (just won conference) but him choosing football was a mistake. He could have been running track at a better university with better coaches. Just my opinion though.

I agree choosing football was a mistake. Injuries didn't help either. But Dale Kennedy is one of the best coaches in the region. Don't pull the whole university BS just because Chris decided to play football first. You wouldn't even be close to saying that if Chris had started with track and not football.
 
Paytonlives said:
CatFan22 said:
wbtfg said:
CatFan22 said:
Yeah because that NEVER happens. :roll:

I'd assume that if he was going to ask for a release, he'd have done so by now. It's getting pretty late in the game at this point.

Probably. But how many times do you see a school not granting a release. "Doubtful" probably isn't the most appropriate word.

So I guess in your mind doubtful is the same as never.... go back to the cat box.

:thumb: :thumb:
 
CatFan22 said:
PTGrizzly said:
First off, this kid is freakishly fast for his speed.

What does that even mean?

PTGrizzly said:
For clarification, I know Chris Wilson is doing well right now (just won conference) but him choosing football was a mistake. He could have been running track at a better university with better coaches. Just my opinion though.

I agree choosing football was a mistake. Injuries didn't help either. But Dale Kennedy is one of the best coaches in the region. Don't pull the whole university BS just because Chris decided to play football first. You wouldn't even be close to saying that if Chris had started with track and not football.


Sorry, I meant that he was freakishly fast for his size.

In regards to Dale Kennedy, he's a good BSC coach. However Chris Wilson wouldn't be running in the BSC if he started out with track right away. When it comes to track, coaching is huge. It's the reason Patrick Casey isn't at MSU anymore. Next time, try to educate yourself a little before you spout off your idiocy.
 
snap said:
Paytonlives said:
Just some more insight into how fast this is...

A 10.51 100 Meter is equal to a

4.20 in the 40!!!!!!!


smokin'...
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PTGrizzly said:
CatFan22 said:
PTGrizzly said:
First off, this kid is freakishly fast for his speed.

What does that even mean?

PTGrizzly said:
For clarification, I know Chris Wilson is doing well right now (just won conference) but him choosing football was a mistake. He could have been running track at a better university with better coaches. Just my opinion though.

I agree choosing football was a mistake. Injuries didn't help either. But Dale Kennedy is one of the best coaches in the region. Don't pull the whole university BS just because Chris decided to play football first. You wouldn't even be close to saying that if Chris had started with track and not football.


Sorry, I meant that he was freakishly fast for his size.

In regards to Dale Kennedy, he's a good BSC coach. However Chris Wilson wouldn't be running in the BSC if he started out with track right away. When it comes to track, coaching is huge. It's the reason Patrick Casey isn't at MSU anymore. Next time, try to educate yourself a little before you spout off your idiocy.

I don't believe the reason Patrick Casey went to Oklahoma has as much to do with coaching as it does with competition. He needed better competition to push himself harder. Nobody on the team was as good as he is, so nobody pushed him at practice. And he could show up to BSC meets not 100% and still dominate.

Just my :twocents:
 
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