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Campus Police Will Look at any "Criminal Component"

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Glendivegriz said:
PlayerRep said:
signedbewildered said:
This isn't a national security issue. Likely won't go anywhere other than back and forth between the two. People insult each other on social media every day.....some people even insult Hauck and call him names and put his image on a book about rape. Hrmmmm.....

The real authorities (not the campus cops) aren't going to dig any further into this than what is right in front of their face.

Why do you say that? I think various prosecutors would love to find something to fry someone like Alpha with.

Nope. We have better things to do than take up arguments of butthurt people on a chat forum. You know, meth, assault, child molestation. Stuff like that.
Yeah kind of like Alabama
 
dupuyer griz said:
Eriul said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
WTF? Someone is trying to press criminal charges on Alpha, or Vice Versa? Sorry, I won't read anything coming from the local rag sheet. If so, what kind of criminal charges are being looked into, or even possible? Was the way Alpha went about calling out this woman right? Hell no. But since when does the freedom of speech come with criminal charges (from and on either side of this)?

Let me get this straight. It is apparently okay for the woman to paint a false picture of Bobby Hauck and go to the extents she did, to possibly stop him from being employed by the U of M. Is it not okay for someone to strongly oppose her, question her motives, or how she went about doing what she has to Hauck?

Both parties were wrong in going about things the way they did. They both chose to make their opinions public. I can see them both being subject to public scrutiny, opinions, etc. No matter what I think, it is not right for either party to be subject to criminal charges, unless there were truly life changing threats or actions.

I assume that the only criminal issue would be threats. Alpha has threatened a lot of people over the years. He has been dishonest frequently. Haven't followed what he did or said that closely this time, but he's been over line the many times in the past, in my view.


Yup. Not just on the internet but also to people's faces from what I have heard. He has crossed the line many many times. There's a level between angrily talking shit to each other on a board and making it personal and attacking/threatening someone. You can call it "snowflake" mentality or whatever, but it is NEVER ok to threaten violence on someone.
Respectfully disagree, not only is a threat of violence good, sometimes a good old fashioned ass whipping fixes a lot of problems. As a freshman in a high school I watched a kid who was kind of a dick to someone get their ass kicked. It made me not be an asshole for years. Think about that for a second, someone else got their ass kicked and it controlled my behavior. That’s why there are so many young people that are shitty. No one has ever shown them what could happen, and furthermore, with the instant gratification that everyone craves, you’d think it would be more popular. Both Lisa and Alpha have a learned behavior of bullying that gets them what they want with no consequences. You can say it’s not the answer or you don’t believe in it, but it is real and AN answer, not necessarily the answer.


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Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?
 
Eriul said:
dupuyer griz said:
Eriul said:
PlayerRep said:
I assume that the only criminal issue would be threats. Alpha has threatened a lot of people over the years. He has been dishonest frequently. Haven't followed what he did or said that closely this time, but he's been over line the many times in the past, in my view.


Yup. Not just on the internet but also to people's faces from what I have heard. He has crossed the line many many times. There's a level between angrily talking shit to each other on a board and making it personal and attacking/threatening someone. You can call it "snowflake" mentality or whatever, but it is NEVER ok to threaten violence on someone.
Respectfully disagree, not only is a threat of violence good, sometimes a good old fashioned ass whipping fixes a lot of problems. As a freshman in a high school I watched a kid who was kind of a dick to someone get their ass kicked. It made me not be an asshole for years. Think about that for a second, someone else got their ass kicked and it controlled my behavior. That’s why there are so many young people that are shitty. No one has ever shown them what could happen, and furthermore, with the instant gratification that everyone craves, you’d think it would be more popular. Both Lisa and Alpha have a learned behavior of bullying that gets them what they want with no consequences. You can say it’s not the answer or you don’t believe in it, but it is real and AN answer, not necessarily the answer.


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Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?

Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.
 
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
dupuyer griz said:
Eriul said:
Yup. Not just on the internet but also to people's faces from what I have heard. He has crossed the line many many times. There's a level between angrily talking shit to each other on a board and making it personal and attacking/threatening someone. You can call it "snowflake" mentality or whatever, but it is NEVER ok to threaten violence on someone.
Respectfully disagree, not only is a threat of violence good, sometimes a good old fashioned ass whipping fixes a lot of problems. As a freshman in a high school I watched a kid who was kind of a dick to someone get their ass kicked. It made me not be an asshole for years. Think about that for a second, someone else got their ass kicked and it controlled my behavior. That’s why there are so many young people that are shitty. No one has ever shown them what could happen, and furthermore, with the instant gratification that everyone craves, you’d think it would be more popular. Both Lisa and Alpha have a learned behavior of bullying that gets them what they want with no consequences. You can say it’s not the answer or you don’t believe in it, but it is real and AN answer, not necessarily the answer.


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Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?

Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though
 
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
dupuyer griz said:
Respectfully disagree, not only is a threat of violence good, sometimes a good old fashioned ass whipping fixes a lot of problems. As a freshman in a high school I watched a kid who was kind of a dick to someone get their ass kicked. It made me not be an asshole for years. Think about that for a second, someone else got their ass kicked and it controlled my behavior. That’s why there are so many young people that are shitty. No one has ever shown them what could happen, and furthermore, with the instant gratification that everyone craves, you’d think it would be more popular. Both Lisa and Alpha have a learned behavior of bullying that gets them what they want with no consequences. You can say it’s not the answer or you don’t believe in it, but it is real and AN answer, not necessarily the answer.


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Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?

Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"
 
Mike posted a meme and an address, that is all he did. I know this because he did it from our law office in Billings.

I want to add the following comment on the subject.

I’ve watched this unfold over the last week or so and it seems some people are fairly misdirected on what it is all about. This has nothing to do with UM or Bobby Hauck, or Ken Haslam, or anyone else. Mike is in no way associated with them and they sure as hell would never put him forth as a spokesman for them in any way. None of us would do that.

To me this seems to be about a trend with people being able to claim they are somehow a victim of something and then start some sort of fight with those they profess to be the perpetrator of some injustice to them or those they are protecting.

It does not matter that their claims may be completely false or erroneous on the facts of the matter. It seems now that all a woman on social media has to do is level accusations and walk away. Then what is left is a person dealing with the aftermath and no repercussions to the attacker.

They are simply introduced as the victim and we all have to just play along and treat these people with a gentle touch and nod and act like what they say has value even when we know it to be incorrect.

Why?

If somebody makes a claim about your son, brother, daughter, sister, mom or dad and that claim is incorrect then you would rightly say that this person is either misinformed or a liar. I don’t see any problem with doing so in any situation I guess and think Mike must have just gotten sort of fed up with this same thing.

It is sort of comical that a lot of people want to try and make this issue about something else via subterfuge while resting on this alleged victimhood complex and the coddling culture that seems to have grown the last 20 years.

Mike gave this person back what she was giving out So we are all supposed to feel sorry for her in spite of being misinformed about a topic she wants to spearhead against someone?

Personally, I am sort of tired of liars and professional self absorbed victims being able to make any claims they want against others without reprisal while acting like an ill informed jerk offs.

Once in awhile it is nice to see a no account person held to account by someone.

This entire incident had nothing to do with Montana, football, Hauck or the University. This was done to a woman that does this stuff to others. I have known Mike for over 15 years and it is uncommon for him to do anything like this. I absolutely disagree with the way he went about this and I and his lawyer repeatedly told him not go about this the way he did. Attacking people on social media is cowardly and should never happen.

I am glad Mike did it to this person, she needs to learn what the other side is like when she is is trying to label innocent people with heinous things.
 
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?

Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.
 
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before so it wouldn’t surprise me. Also there is the added threat that he’s saying this to a woman.

I’m not advocating for what’s her face as she’s just another person my age who is just constantly trying to be the victim of “the white man.” But again, it’s simple, it’s not ok to threaten anyone. She may have unjustly felt threatened and therefore nothing will happen but do you honestly think Alpha is incapable of crossing that line?

Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Oh so you want proof that he’s been threatening to people before? Chris has this great feature on this website that allows you to look at the history of posts from years past. Feel free to take a look anytime. When you do that and can honestly tell yourself he hasn’t done that here then we can have a discussion
 
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Oh so you want proof that he’s been threatening to people before? Chris has this great feature on this website that allows you to look at the history of posts from years past. Feel free to take a look anytime. When you do that and can honestly tell yourself he hasn’t done that here then we can have a discussion

So predictable.
 
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Oh so you want proof that he’s been threatening to people before? Chris has this great feature on this website that allows you to look at the history of posts from years past. Feel free to take a look anytime. When you do that and can honestly tell yourself he hasn’t done that here then we can have a discussion

So predictable.

Same
 
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
"He has done it before"

Oh so you want proof that he’s been threatening to people before? Chris has this great feature on this website that allows you to look at the history of posts from years past. Feel free to take a look anytime. When you do that and can honestly tell yourself he hasn’t done that here then we can have a discussion

So predictable.

Same

It's predictable that I called you predictable? Might want to make some changes if it happens that often.
 
G-BEARS said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
G-BEARS said:
Can you please cite when/where alpha broke the law. Quite the accusation, interested to see these examples.

You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?
 
PlayerRep said:
G-BEARS said:
G-BEARS said:
Eriul said:
You need to know what an accusation is before you “accuse” someone of that. When did I say he broke the law? In fact I said I’m not sure he did...I don’t care enough about this whole shit to look into what he and she spewed at each other. 10/10 on your reading skills though

"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.
 
G-BEARS said:
PlayerRep said:
G-BEARS said:
G-BEARS said:
"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.
Is she wrong? Either you’re AG1 or you’re just being ignorant.
 
Fahque said:
G-BEARS said:
PlayerRep said:
G-BEARS said:
Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.
Is she wrong? Either you’re AG1 or you’re just being ignorant.

Haha, definitely not AG1. I see now that it was just a case of poor writing, which I previously offered as an explanation. I've read that quote to several people (non-egrizzers) and they understood it the same way I did. AG1 controversial yes (a douche-bag often), against the law no. I write things often that get taken the wrong way, usually own up to it and don't try to blame others with nasty comments.
 
G-BEARS said:
PlayerRep said:
G-BEARS said:
G-BEARS said:
"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.

You have poor reading skills then. "threatening someone's safety is against the law." The topic of that sentence is the act of threatening someone. I say, "it is not ok." It pertaining to the previous topic. followed by the same "it" in the next sentence. You're arguing writing skills with someone vastly more educated in that topic. I will not claim that I write perfectly on here as more often than not I am on my phone, but if you're going to critique it at least have a solid argument.

Also it is moot as threatening someone by definition is against the law. He has threatened people, I would imagine often times indirectly. It is still against the law.
 
G-BEARS said:
PlayerRep said:
G-BEARS said:
G-BEARS said:
"He has done it before"

Your'e either poor at writing, or accused him of breaking the law in the past. Either one is fine, just curious of what the examples from the past were. An error in the clarity of your writing sounds plausible too.

She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.

No, she didn't say he had broken the law. Note the "it", which I took to mean threaten. All threats are not illegal. In any event, come by my office sometime and I will show you a bunch of threats that I believe would be actionable under the law.
 
G-BEARS said:
Fahque said:
G-BEARS said:
PlayerRep said:
She said he had threatened people before, not broken the law. Are you going tell us that he has never threatened anyone before?

"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.
Is she wrong? Either you’re AG1 or you’re just being ignorant.

Haha, definitely not AG1. I see now that it was just a case of poor writing, which I previously offered as an explanation. I've read that quote to several people (non-egrizzers) and they understood it the same way I did. AG1 controversial yes (a douche-bag often), against the law no. I write things often that get taken the wrong way, usually own up to it and don't try to blame others with nasty comments.
Perhaps. Depends on the nature of the threat. If he threatened to go through you like a chainsaw, how would you take it?
 
Fahque said:
G-BEARS said:
Fahque said:
G-BEARS said:
"Well you’re welcome to your opinion but threatening someone’s safety IS against the law. It is not ok. I’m not sure that’s what alpha did but he has done it before."

Read that again. And tell me that she didn't say what he has done before was against the law. Interested to see you spin this, fascinating stuff.
Is she wrong? Either you’re AG1 or you’re just being ignorant.

Haha, definitely not AG1. I see now that it was just a case of poor writing, which I previously offered as an explanation. I've read that quote to several people (non-egrizzers) and they understood it the same way I did. AG1 controversial yes (a douche-bag often), against the law no. I write things often that get taken the wrong way, usually own up to it and don't try to blame others with nasty comments.
Perhaps. Depends on the nature of the threat. If he threatened to go through you like a chainsaw, how would you take it?

Honestly wouldn't think twice about it. But don't try and look into that statement any more than what it is
 
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