BW's pre-fall camp depth chart

[AZGrizFan]

I played WR, so I probably watch this position more than any other on the field. What has been missing from this group is having the guy that can just flat go get it. I wanted to pull my hair out the last two seasons with their inability to make a contested catch of any kind, especially in big moments. A 50/50 ball…zero chance. I hope that changes.

Interesting. While we didn't/don't have a Henderson/Jones type, I thought there were plenty of Jensen passes that were thrown up for grabs where our guy went up and got it (Calhoun & Toure come to mind immediately).

 

[BWahlberg]

Maybe it's just how you wrote that, but it comes across as saying that JLM has had 'too many drops'.

Perhaps you meant the entire receiving corps. JLM, though, has not been prone to drops. As noted here before as an example, in his freshman year he had 73 catches and exactly 2 drops. Hardly a high ratio. Not sure what his ratio was last year, but I certainly don't recall it being sky-high, or anything close to that.

Yes, that was poorly worded on my part. I was not talking about JLM.

However I think one could go down the line and probably grab some things from each WR to take that "next step" and to see how Pease and Rosy have worked with them:

JLM: cleaning up the hopping / pulsing at the snap instead of just taking off... reducing the potentially dangerous free lancing.

Curran: consistency with catching, making big catches in big games too.

Akem: more clean catches with hands and not trying to trap as much to the body

Toure: Improvement on the sidelines and with contested/closer coverage

Agreed. Good comments.

I played WR, so I probably watch this position more than any other on the field. What has been missing from this group is having the guy that can just flat go get it. I wanted to pull my hair out the last two seasons with their inability to make a contested catch of any kind, especially in big moments. A 50/50 ball…zero chance. I hope that changes.

From what I've seen I think you'll like the progression. No it isn't 100% fixed but I think they're on a good path here with this group.

 

[BWahlberg]

Bobby has worked his magic on a roster that we all thought was inexperienced and rebuilding before, and lead them to the National Championship game. Seriously, go back and read the threads in the summer of 2008 where some people legitimately thought we might go 3-8. :lol:

Not expecting the same type of magic, but I hope this group can surprise a lot of people.

The one thing 2008 had was a stud secondary, and a rock-solid badass OL that helped everyone along. Not saying this team doesn't have that but I think we're opening fall camp with pretty big unknowns there... mostly on account of inexperience.

Oh, for sure. I was just thinking recently that Tru *alone* made that team so much better by taking away one half of the field for the final two years of Bobby’s first tenure.

Did he? In 2008 he was a rookie/freshman and no one knew what he'd become. He did well but wasn't the lock-down guy he turned into. I can't recall if it was 2008 or 2009 as well, didn't he get hurt and miss 3 or 4 games? He certainly did in 2010 and especially 2011 take away 1/2 the field which was awesome.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Bobby has worked his magic on a roster that we all thought was inexperienced and rebuilding before, and lead them to the National Championship game. Seriously, go back and read the threads in the summer of 2008 where some people legitimately thought we might go 3-8. :lol:

Not expecting the same type of magic, but I hope this group can surprise a lot of people.

The one thing 2008 had was a stud secondary, and a rock-solid badass OL that helped everyone along. Not saying this team doesn't have that but I think we're opening fall camp with pretty big unknowns there... mostly on account of inexperience.

Oh, for sure. I was just thinking recently that Tru *alone* made that team so much better by taking away one half of the field for the final two years of Bobby’s first tenure.

Did he? In 2008 he was a rookie/freshman and no one knew what he'd become. He did well but wasn't the lock-down guy he turned into. I can't recall if it was 2008 or 2009 as well, didn't he get hurt and miss 3 or 4 games? He certainly did in 2010 and especially 2011 take away 1/2 the field which was awesome.

He was pretty legit in 2008. He got hurt in the second to last reg season game and sat out MSU and all the playoffs. pretty sure he lead the team in INTs that year but don't quote me on that. I remember people mentioning it would have been nice to have him vs richmond

 

[mtgrizfankb]

The one thing 2008 had was a stud secondary, and a rock-solid badass OL that helped everyone along. Not saying this team doesn't have that but I think we're opening fall camp with pretty big unknowns there... mostly on account of inexperience.

Oh, for sure. I was just thinking recently that Tru *alone* made that team so much better by taking away one half of the field for the final two years of Bobby’s first tenure.

Did he? In 2008 he was a rookie/freshman and no one knew what he'd become. He did well but wasn't the lock-down guy he turned into. I can't recall if it was 2008 or 2009 as well, didn't he get hurt and miss 3 or 4 games? He certainly did in 2010 and especially 2011 take away 1/2 the field which was awesome.

He was pretty legit in 2008. He got hurt in the second to last reg season game and sat out MSU and all the playoffs. pretty sure he lead the team in INTs that year but don't quote me on that. I remember people mentioning it would have been nice to have him vs richmond

Also remember we played Weber in the quarter finals that year then went to JMU and took care of business as usual there

 

[uofmman1122]

Bobby has worked his magic on a roster that we all thought was inexperienced and rebuilding before, and lead them to the National Championship game. Seriously, go back and read the threads in the summer of 2008 where some people legitimately thought we might go 3-8. :lol:

Not expecting the same type of magic, but I hope this group can surprise a lot of people.

The one thing 2008 had was a stud secondary, and a rock-solid badass OL that helped everyone along. Not saying this team doesn't have that but I think we're opening fall camp with pretty big unknowns there... mostly on account of inexperience.

Oh, for sure. I was just thinking recently that Tru *alone* made that team so much better by taking away one half of the field for the final two years of Bobby’s first tenure.

Did he? In 2008 he was a rookie/freshman and no one knew what he'd become. He did well but wasn't the lock-down guy he turned into. I can't recall if it was 2008 or 2009 as well, didn't he get hurt and miss 3 or 4 games? He certainly did in 2010 and especially 2011 take away 1/2 the field which was awesome.

Just looking though the stats, Tru had 3 interceptions in his first 3 games, and then dropped to the bottom of the stat sheet for the rest of the season until he got hurt. I also don’t remember him getting thrown at all that much in 2009, either.

As good as he was in 2010 and 2011, I think it’s pretty accurate that he was one of the best players on our team for his first two seasons.

That said, your point about the O-Line is spot on, though. The parallels aren’t perfect.

 

[poorgriz]

If those end up being your four starting DBs you're in bigger trouble than I thought. Not talking smack here but what makes you think Robby Hauck is good enough to be a starting safety for the griz? Nepotism? I don't even think Bobby would start him unless he was clear cut above another safety on your roster. Way undersized, and like i said - no smack intended. I think he's a really smart player, fast, and will be a special teams ace for you.

See, what you don’t get it that you’re always trolling. Your default state is and has always been “you’re going to suck”. Every single year. Before good years, before bad years, before national championship game runs, it’s always been “you’re going to suck”. You hide it under “legitimate” concerns, but it’s always there.

There, now you can delete your account. I’ve already covered everything you ever add to this site.

No, you must be thinking of someone else. I've never said the griz were going to suck. I did say Stitt had some serious fundamental flaws with his system and his abilities as a head coach to be able to lead the griz back to the promised land. Nailed that one. Regarding the gist of this post, I didn't even say your secondary was going to suck. What I said was that if the four DBs that Brint penciled in as starters, do end up being the starters, then you might be in some trouble there in the backfield. That said, I think Brint missed the mark on that lineup and you'll end up being serviceable (not dominant) back there. I've also said Hauck will probably get you back to being competitive on a national level within a few years, but it won't be next year. You can bookmark that!

 

[poorgriz]

If those end up being your four starting DBs you're in bigger trouble than I thought. Not talking smack here but what makes you think Robby Hauck is good enough to be a starting safety for the griz? Nepotism? I don't even think Bobby would start him unless he was clear cut above another safety on your roster. Way undersized, and like i said - no smack intended. I think he's a really smart player, fast, and will be a special teams ace for you.

The 2 FBS drop down safeties are very good. No reason for you to worry any longer about Griz safeties.

Yep. So it sounds like you agree with me in that it's very doubtful Robby Hauck is a starting safety in your opener.

 

[PlayerRep]

If those end up being your four starting DBs you're in bigger trouble than I thought. Not talking smack here but what makes you think Robby Hauck is good enough to be a starting safety for the griz? Nepotism? I don't even think Bobby would start him unless he was clear cut above another safety on your roster. Way undersized, and like i said - no smack intended. I think he's a really smart player, fast, and will be a special teams ace for you.

The 2 FBS drop down safeties are very good. No reason for you to worry any longer about Griz safeties.

Yep. So it sounds like you agree with me in that it's very doubtful Robby Hauck is a starting safety in your opener.

Yup. But I don't want you to worry about the Griz safeties. They and we will be okay.

 

[66volvo]

Gonna be really really unhappy if Sammy Akem does not step up in practices and show his real talent and get the attention of the coaches. At 6'4" he should be able to wall off defenders and get the jump ball. He is a RS sophomore...time to play up.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Gonna be really really unhappy if Sammy Akem does not step up in practices and show his real talent and get the attention of the coaches. At 6'4" he should be able to wall off defenders and get the jump ball. He is a RS sophomore...time to play up.

He’s gonna have a break out year. I was told directly from a coach that he is FBS level talent and should be playing at Okla St let alone the Griz. He will get there!

 

[Ursa Major]

I heard that Robby Hauck came and talked to the defensive coordinator about his prospects and playing time in the upcoming season, and the defensive coordinator asked, "Who the f--k are YOU?"








Too soon?

:lol: :lol:

 

[brewskis]

I played WR, so I probably watch this position more than any other on the field. What has been missing from this group is having the guy that can just flat go get it. I wanted to pull my hair out the last two seasons with their inability to make a contested catch of any kind, especially in big moments. A 50/50 ball…zero chance. I hope that changes.

Interesting. While we didn't/don't have a Henderson/Jones type, I thought there were plenty of Jensen passes that were thrown up for grabs where our guy went up and got it (Calhoun & Toure come to mind immediately).

Not disagreeing with you there, we’ve seen some good plays these last two years, but the WR group has failed to show up at the most critical moments.

I think that we’ll see less and less 2nd chances when it comes to drops now that we aren’t throwing it 50-60 times per game. Which is why we might see guys like Mitch Roberts or Gabe Sulser.


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[Blue Tears]

Thanks BW for constructing a depth chart. Always great to see your observations. On the defensive front, it looks like you only listed 10 starters. I hope we don't have less than 11 as we might need all the help we can get on that side of the ball.

Yeah good thing I don't work in an industry that relies on numbers and accounting.... whoops... haha. Got it corrected, missed a D-line spot basically.

Thanks again for your work. Much appreciated!

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

If those end up being your four starting DBs you're in bigger trouble than I thought. Not talking smack here but what makes you think Robby Hauck is good enough to be a starting safety for the griz? Nepotism? I don't even think Bobby would start him unless he was clear cut above another safety on your roster. Way undersized, and like i said - no smack intended. I think he's a really smart player, fast, and will be a special teams ace for you.

The 2 FBS drop down safeties are very good. No reason for you to worry any longer about Griz safeties.

Yep. So it sounds like you agree with me in that it's very doubtful Robby Hauck is a starting safety in your opener.

Yup. But I don't want you to worry about the Griz safeties. They and we will be okay.

Heard the Cats are looking at QBs that can throw the ball this year.....could be especially concerning since the last two teams couldnt beat one that couldnt...lololol

 

[AZDoc]

I heard that Robby Hauck came and talked to the defensive coordinator about his prospects and playing time in the upcoming season, and the defensive coordinator asked, "Who the f--k are YOU?"








Too soon?

:lol: :lol:

:lol: :clap:

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Gonna be really really unhappy if Sammy Akem does not step up in practices and show his real talent and get the attention of the coaches. At 6'4" he should be able to wall off defenders and get the jump ball. He is a RS sophomore...time to play up.

He’s gonna have a break out year. I was told directly from a coach that he is FBS level talent and should be playing at Okla St let alone the Griz. He will get there!

Akem is a stud and he is going to show out. the level of progression you are gonna see the next few years in him are gonna be awesome. The kid has pure talent

 

[kemajic]

The 2 FBS drop down safeties are very good. No reason for you to worry any longer about Griz safeties.

Yep. So it sounds like you agree with me in that it's very doubtful Robby Hauck is a starting safety in your opener.

Yup. But I don't want you to worry about the Griz safeties. They and we will be okay.

Heard the Cats are looking at QBs that can throw the ball this year.....could be especially concerning since the last two teams couldnt beat one that couldnt...lololol

The guy that beat them running and almost led the BSC in rushing is gone. The DC that couldn't stop him is gone. The HC and QB that couldn't win big games are gone. The sheriff is back in town. Game on.

 

[argh!]

i saw kem posted in this thread, and said to my self 'i bet the house that his post is nothing but bobby-love blather, along with some stitt bashing'. and i was right.

 

[hilinegrizfan]

Yep. So it sounds like you agree with me in that it's very doubtful Robby Hauck is a starting safety in your opener.

Yup. But I don't want you to worry about the Griz safeties. They and we will be okay.

Heard the Cats are looking at QBs that can throw the ball this year.....could be especially concerning since the last two teams couldnt beat one that couldnt...lololol

The guy that beat them running and almost led the BSC in rushing is gone. The DC that couldn't stop him is gone. The HC and QB that couldn't win big games are gone. The sheriff is back in town. Game on.

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