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BSC/WAC Almost Happened

MrTitleist

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http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2016/5/5/11589614/idaho-released-their-consultants-report-which-reveled-a-bunch-or-new

Interesting stuff from the Idaho stay/move-down study.. noted that a WAC/BSC league almost happened that would have included South Dakota. Also reveals that NDSU and SDSU could be leaving the Summit league for the Valley in all sports. Interesting nuggets in here.
 
The "Conference Notes" section is the gift that keeps on giving. From page 63.

Big Sky Conference/Western Athletic Conference

Three years ago, Big Sky Commissioner Doug Fullerton and WAC Commissioner Jeff Hurd visited about the possibility of combining the two conferences, and having part of the league participate in FBS and the remainder in FCS for football. The idea did gain some interest, but was ultimately shot down. However, there could be an opportunity to rekindle these discussions. Here is a possible scenario should it gain traction:

Football

 FBS – Idaho, New Mexico State, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Cal Poly and Northern Arizona (8 teams).

 FCS – Eastern Washington, Idaho State, Portland State, UC-Davis, Sacramento State, Southern Utah and Northern Colorado (7 teams). If they can meet the academic criteria and budget criteria, and have an interest in "moving up" to FBS, they certainly would be considered.

Basketball

 North Division – Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Eastern Washington, Portland State, Idaho State, Seattle University and Idaho (9 teams).

 South Division – Sacramento State, Southern Utah, New Mexico State, Northern Colorado, Weber State, Utah Valley, Grand Canyon State, UTRGV and CSU Bakersfield (9 teams).

Fullerton has talked about an FCS/FBS league for years with his members, but the surprise here is that it was talked about as a merger with the WAC.

The problem there is the same problem that killed a Conference USA/Mountain West merger around the same time in that the NCAA would only allow one auto-bid from the league.

The scenario includes South Dakota, which spurned North Dakota and the Big Sky at the 11th hour to join the MVFC and Summit League in 2010.
 
Paytonlives said:
Big Sky Conference/Western Athletic Conference

Football

 FBS – Idaho, New Mexico State, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Cal Poly and Northern Arizona (8 teams).

 FCS – Eastern Washington, Idaho State, Portland State, UC-Davis, Sacramento State, Southern Utah and Northern Colorado (7 teams). If they can meet the academic criteria and budget criteria, and have an interest in "moving up" to FBS, they certainly would be considered.

I know Weber hasn't exactly been a football force but it would have been nice to at least been included in one of the two football divisions. :?
 
wsucatfan said:
Paytonlives said:
Big Sky Conference/Western Athletic Conference

Football

 FBS – Idaho, New Mexico State, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Cal Poly and Northern Arizona (8 teams).

 FCS – Eastern Washington, Idaho State, Portland State, UC-Davis, Sacramento State, Southern Utah and Northern Colorado (7 teams). If they can meet the academic criteria and budget criteria, and have an interest in "moving up" to FBS, they certainly would be considered.

I know Weber hasn't exactly been a football force but it would have been nice to at least been included in one of the two football divisions. :?


I know right?

I'm insulted
 
WILDCATFAN said:
wsucatfan said:
Paytonlives said:
Big Sky Conference/Western Athletic Conference

Football

 FBS – Idaho, New Mexico State, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Cal Poly and Northern Arizona (8 teams).

 FCS – Eastern Washington, Idaho State, Portland State, UC-Davis, Sacramento State, Southern Utah and Northern Colorado (7 teams). If they can meet the academic criteria and budget criteria, and have an interest in "moving up" to FBS, they certainly would be considered.

I know Weber hasn't exactly been a football force but it would have been nice to at least been included in one of the two football divisions. :?


I know right?

I'm insulted

Sorry, that was straight out of the report...
 
The report has NAU in the FBS division (based on academics, I assume, since NAU is a high-research Univ like the others in that division), but missing from basketball
 
wsucatfan said:
Paytonlives said:
Big Sky Conference/Western Athletic Conference

Football

 FBS – Idaho, New Mexico State, Montana, Montana State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Cal Poly and Northern Arizona (8 teams).

 FCS – Eastern Washington, Idaho State, Portland State, UC-Davis, Sacramento State, Southern Utah and Northern Colorado (7 teams). If they can meet the academic criteria and budget criteria, and have an interest in "moving up" to FBS, they certainly would be considered.

I know Weber hasn't exactly been a football force but it would have been nice to at least been included in one of the two football divisions. :?

BSC is headquartered there. Isn't that enough?
 
So if you believe this article then NDSU and SDSU will leave the Summit for the MVC, leaving the Summit with 7 schools. A 7 school conference wouldn't be very attractive to anyone, including to those left in the Summit. I could then see S Dakota want out and into the Big Sky and the Summit dissolving and/or joining with the WAC. IMO it's a very real posibility that both NMSU and USD are added to the Big Sky, giving it 14 full members and 16 football members. You'd then have two 7 school divisions for non-football sports, and either two 8 school football divisions or two separate 8 school football conferences (also mentioned in this article is that there is the possibility that the WAC could restart football and still retain its FBS status). In that scenario those schools that wanted to go FBS could join the WAC for football only and stay in the Big Sky for everything else.
 
wsucatfan said:
I know Weber hasn't exactly been a football force but it would have been nice to at least been included in one of the two football divisions. :?

Sorry, you guys suck. We only care about your hoops program. Drop football.
 
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