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BREACH OF CONTRACT

5280Griz said:
The university doesn’t want a reputation of suing coaches for the same reason the university doesn’t want to have a reputation for firing coaches after a year on the job. It will limit the coaches that want to come to UM in the future.
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I agree with the second point, not the first. There’s a reason these contracts are in place. Buyouts happen all the time. If Vigen leaves next year to coach at a G5 level, do you think MSU would not pursue a buyout because they don’t want to look mean? I don’t think so.

This is business. Bobby left his job with a year left in his contract, retirement or resignation is up to the contract to determine and the parties to debate. If the university can get a $250k check from Illinois why wouldn’t they go after it?
 
brewskis said:
I agree with the second point, not the first. There’s a reason these contracts are in place. Buyouts happen all the time. If Vigen leaves next year to coach at a G5 level, do you think MSU would not pursue a buyout because they don’t want to look mean? I don’t think so.

This is business. Bobby left his job with a year left in his contract, retirement or resignation is up to the contract to determine and the parties to debate. If the university can get a $250k check from Illinois why wouldn’t they go after it?
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Relevant here is that they would settle privately in arbitration without the details known to the public. The hit to the reputation if they sued and it was settled in public in front of a judge is kind of a moot point.
 
5280Griz said:
Relevant here is that they would settle privately in arbitration without the details known to the public. The hit to the reputation if they sued and it was settled in public in front of a judge is kind of a moot point.
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I’m guessing that since these are publicly-funded institutions there has to be some disclosure, but you’re right in that this very likely doesn’t end up in court. There’s a load of precedent to this.
 
kemajic said:
Because of his dedication, reputation and record. One of the best FCS HC's ever.
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no argument here. I just don’t understand why that would give reason for the university to not seek damages from his current employer. If they believe there are grounds for it.
 
Retirement and resignation both signify leaving a position, but they differ significantly in intent, benefits, and age criteria. Retirement usually means permanently leaving the workforce at an eligible age to access pensions or benefits. Resignation is a voluntary resignation of a job, often to pursue another opportunity, regardless of age.

Key Differences:
  • Benefits & Pension: Retirement often unlocks accumulated company benefits, pensions, or Medicare/social security benefits. Resignation generally means losing company-specific retirement benefits.
  • Intent:Retiring is typically a long-term plan to stop working, whereas resignation is a move to quit a specific job, often with plans to work elsewhere
    .
    • Age/Service: Retirement is often tied to age or a specific tenure (e.g., 55+ or specific "points" systems). Resignation can happen at any time.
    • Process: Retirement may require a longer, formal notice period to process retirement paperwork. Resignation is usually a shorter, standard notice.
Which to Choose?
  • Retire: If you are eligible for company pension, healthcare, or retirement benefits.
  • Resign: If you are leaving to join a new company, to change careers, or if you have not met the age/service requirements to officially retire.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Looks like he resigned-retired before the Ill job became open. Look at what the Ill coach and multiple posters have said and reported. He couldn’t resign to take a job that hadn’t been offered to him.

"He later said Thursday that he had not talked with Hauck until Feb. 5. He added that they talked again Feb. 6 and booked Hauck a plane ticket to Illinois on Feb. 7. Hauck said they "were talking pretty serious by Sunday (Feb. 8)."

He flew to Illinois on Monday and was announced as the hire that afternoon.

Hauck said he didn't think he was done with coaching when he left UM and added that he got "quite a few calls right away" about other coaching offers. Those included two opportunities with NFL teams for special teams or defense, Bielema said he learned from Hauck during their phone call Feb. 5.

Bielema noted he was worried Hauck took one of those jobs when he couldn't reach him Feb. 6. He added that he later learned the unanswered calls were because Hauck was out of cell phone service while fishing in Montana.

Bielema said he doesn't have his coordinators on the road recruiting any longer. Instead, he sends his recruiting coaches out."

missoulian.com

Why ex-Grizzlies head coach Bobby Hauck took Illinois defensive coordinator job

Former Grizzlies head coach Bobby Hauck and current Illinois head coach Bret Bielema talk about the former being hired as defensive coordinator.
missoulian.com missoulian.com
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Tell me you're a lawyer without telling me you're a lawyer?
 
EverettGriz said:
Yes, of course. People in all walks of life do this. They retire from a company in order to receive their retirement benefits, and then go work elsewhere. It's still a retirement.

I have a good friend who works as a field agent for the DEA. He had a forced retirement at 55. He doesn't want to be done working, so he's actively looking for a new job in a different field. But he definitely retired from the DEA.
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Not the same! We are dealing with an employment contract with a liquidated damages clause that is essentially a non-compete clause for similar employment.
 
R
DayLaw said:
Not the same! We are dealing with an employment contract with a liquidated damages clause that is essentially a non-compete clause for similar employment.
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Read the contract. Read the liquidated damages clause. There is no non-compete. You are clueless.
 
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