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Bracket Conspiracy Theory

Grizzly Oredigger

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This may be mentioned on other threads, but I’m seeing some talk that the committee straight-up accidentally switched Michigan and Michigan State. Michigan should have been in the East and Michigan State in the West. It makes sense on a number of levels.

First off, from a Griz perspective, it would explain why we’re playing Michigan in the first round again, which shouldn’t happen. Lunardi mentioned in a video that somebody screwed that up. Secondly, both Michigan and Michigan State are playing in Des Moines, which may have muddied the waters and added to the confusion. Lastly, Duke shouldn’t be penalized by potentially playing MSU, when it’s obvious that MSU > Michigan this year. Gonzaga should have been faced with the toughest #2 seed (Michigan State). Most would argue Michigan is the fourth best #2, which is why the two teams accidentally being switched makes perfect sense.

Ultimately, from the Griz’ perspective, I don’t care which of the two we play. In some ways I prefer playing Michigan again (mainly for the reasons above that MSU is slightly better).

Duke and MSU have a right to be upset. Gonzaga and Michigan have a reason to celebrate (until we beat the Wolverines that is).

Go Griz!
 
I posted about this in another thread, although I don’t necessarily think it was some kind of conspiracy—probably just a F-up.

There should be no doubt that MSU is the highest #2 (and probably should have been a #1). Thus, they should have been placed in the lowest #1’s quad, certainly not the highest’s. I don’t know how anyone can even dispute that?
 
garizzalies said:
I posted about this in another thread, although I don’t necessarily think it was some kind of conspiracy—probably just a F-up.

There should be no doubt that MSU is the highest #2 (and probably should have been a #1). Thus, they should have been placed in the lowest #1’s quad, certainly not the highest’s. I don’t know how anyone can even dispute that?
I agree it would have been unintentional. I think we’re playing #8 instead of #5 as a result, so I guess we shouldn’t complain (even though the difference is most likely negligible)
 
Grizzly Oredigger said:
garizzalies said:
I posted about this in another thread, although I don’t necessarily think it was some kind of conspiracy—probably just a F-up.

There should be no doubt that MSU is the highest #2 (and probably should have been a #1). Thus, they should have been placed in the lowest #1’s quad, certainly not the highest’s. I don’t know how anyone can even dispute that?
I agree it would have been unintentional. I think we’re playing #8 instead of #5 as a result, so I guess we shouldn’t complain (even though the difference is most likely negligible)


As the supposed #1 15 seed, shouldn’t we be playing #8 anyway?
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grizzly Oredigger said:
garizzalies said:
I posted about this in another thread, although I don’t necessarily think it was some kind of conspiracy—probably just a F-up.

There should be no doubt that MSU is the highest #2 (and probably should have been a #1). Thus, they should have been placed in the lowest #1’s quad, certainly not the highest’s. I don’t know how anyone can even dispute that?
I agree it would have been unintentional. I think we’re playing #8 instead of #5 as a result, so I guess we shouldn’t complain (even though the difference is most likely negligible)


As the supposed #1 15 seed, shouldn’t we be playing #8 anyway?

They are actually the last #15 seed.
 
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
Grizzly Oredigger said:
garizzalies said:
I posted about this in another thread, although I don’t necessarily think it was some kind of conspiracy—probably just a F-up.

There should be no doubt that MSU is the highest #2 (and probably should have been a #1). Thus, they should have been placed in the lowest #1’s quad, certainly not the highest’s. I don’t know how anyone can even dispute that?
I agree it would have been unintentional. I think we’re playing #8 instead of #5 as a result, so I guess we shouldn’t complain (even though the difference is most likely negligible)


As the supposed #1 15 seed, shouldn’t we be playing #8 anyway?

They are actually the last #15 seed.

Oh, I’d heard the opposite...that they were one slot from a 14.
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
Grizzly Oredigger said:
I agree it would have been unintentional. I think we’re playing #8 instead of #5 as a result, so I guess we shouldn’t complain (even though the difference is most likely negligible)


As the supposed #1 15 seed, shouldn’t we be playing #8 anyway?

They are actually the last #15 seed.

Oh, I’d heard the opposite...that they were one slot from a 14.
That’s because they were. They were #59 seeded by the committee. Northern Kentucky, the last 14 was #58
 
I think something went haywire. I had actually heard that there is a bylaw in the NCAA rule book preventing first round rematches.

I think the selection committee is relying more on analytical models than ever before. My guess is that’s the matchup the computers created and the committee either wasn’t paying attention or just didn’t care enough to change it.
 
UMFan12 said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
As the supposed #1 15 seed, shouldn’t we be playing #8 anyway?

They are actually the last #15 seed.

Oh, I’d heard the opposite...that they were one slot from a 14.
That’s because they were. They were #59 seeded by the committee. Northern Kentucky, the last 14 was #58

Then they didn't follow the "S" curve. With Gonzaga being the 4th #1, they should have had the worst 15 and best 16. If I would have thought about it, they are playing a first 4 winner, which wouldn't be the best 16 either.
 
grizindabox said:
UMFan12 said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
They are actually the last #15 seed.

Oh, I’d heard the opposite...that they were one slot from a 14.
That’s because they were. They were #59 seeded by the committee. Northern Kentucky, the last 14 was #58

Then they didn't follow the "S" curve. With Gonzaga being the 4th #1, they should have had the worst 15 and best 16. If I would have thought about it, they are playing a first 4 winner, which wouldn't be the best 16 either.

Nope. They done fucked up. :lol: Probably to our benefit though, as it would have been MSU otherwise...
 
grizindabox said:
UMFan12 said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
They are actually the last #15 seed.

Oh, I’d heard the opposite...that they were one slot from a 14.
That’s because they were. They were #59 seeded by the committee. Northern Kentucky, the last 14 was #58

Then they didn't follow the "S" curve. With Gonzaga being the 4th #1, they should have had the worst 15 and best 16. If I would have thought about it, they are playing a first 4 winner, which wouldn't be the best 16 either.
Maybe we’re talking about the same thing here, and I don’t know the correct vernacular, nor how the committee actually does it, but I am an expert at filling out beer pong brackets:
It’s like a pendulum swinging, and starting from the top down (not bottom up, like what it sounds like you guys are describing).
So I think they got that part right, but not much else.
 
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