Boons and Bummers

[GrizLA]

Can we remember a year when no Griz makes any all conference team and only 1 honorable mention?
Not sure next year will be better, given(theoretically) everyone is back on every team

Next year will be much better for the men at least.

I doubt that will be true unless the coach makes substantial changes. UM is not a good team but a collection of talented players. Other teams in the BSC are also getting players back and it will be a couple years until UM gains back the top spot in the conference unless DC finds a solid floor leader. Parker is not it. Whitney, maybe. Owens to careless, Vasquez is a great shooter but not aggressive and Beardsley runs hot and cold. The lack of a solid big guy leaves much up to Bannon. .

 

[BelierPeaux]

Next year will be much better for the men at least.

I doubt that will be true unless the coach makes substantial changes. UM is not a good team but a collection of talented players. Other teams in the BSC are also getting players back and it will be a couple years until UM gains back the top spot in the conference unless DC finds a solid floor leader. Parker is not it. Whitney, maybe. Owens to careless, Vasquez is a great shooter but not aggressive and Beardsley runs hot and cold. The lack of a solid big guy leaves much up to Bannon. .

It will be true. And who the f@ck is Beardsley?

 

[Griz til I die]

Next year will be much better for the men at least.

I doubt that will be true unless the coach makes substantial changes. UM is not a good team but a collection of talented players. Other teams in the BSC are also getting players back and it will be a couple years until UM gains back the top spot in the conference unless DC finds a solid floor leader. Parker is not it. Whitney, maybe. Owens to careless, Vasquez is a great shooter but not aggressive and Beardsley runs hot and cold. The lack of a solid big guy leaves much up to Bannon. .

Dude I guarantee you Decuires gonna make sure he never has another season like this again. He’ll make the necessary changes this off-season.

 

[UMFan12]

I doubt that will be true unless the coach makes substantial changes. UM is not a good team but a collection of talented players. Other teams in the BSC are also getting players back and it will be a couple years until UM gains back the top spot in the conference unless DC finds a solid floor leader. Parker is not it. Whitney, maybe. Owens to careless, Vasquez is a great shooter but not aggressive and Beardsley runs hot and cold. The lack of a solid big guy leaves much up to Bannon. .

Dude I guarantee you Decuires gonna make sure he never has another season like this again. He’ll make the necessary changes this off-season.

Exhibit A: Look at some of the college basketball recruiting insiders on twitter, and see just how many of the recent transfer portal entrees have already been contacted by Montana. I counted 5 today alone.

 

[Griz til I die]

Dude I guarantee you Decuires gonna make sure he never has another season like this again. He’ll make the necessary changes this off-season.

Exhibit A: Look at some of the college basketball recruiting insiders on twitter, and see just how many of the recent transfer portal entrees have already been contacted by Montana. I counted 5 today alone.

No shit? Who’s posting them? Goodman?

 

[UMFan12]

Exhibit A: Look at some of the college basketball recruiting insiders on twitter, and see just how many of the recent transfer portal entrees have already been contacted by Montana. I counted 5 today alone.

No shit? Who’s posting them? Goodman?

Not Goodman. Borzello has posted I think one involving the Griz in like the past week, the rest are from smaller names. Probably should’ve specified I saw them today, but the articles are a few days old. Regardless, here are a few names tossed around.

https://hoopscoopmedia.com/barton-college-transfer-isaiah-reddish-talks-recruitment/
Isiaiah Reddish- D2 forward, avg 23/10

https://hoopscoopmedia.com/heavily-targeted-transfer-aj-bramah-talks-recruitment/

Aj Bramah- Stony Brook-avg 21PPG,10 RPG bit of a long shot, but shooting high for sure


https://hoopscoopmedia.com/transfer-eysan-wiley-talks-recruitment/

Eysan Wiley- D2 6’5 guard- avg 18/8

Today alone, 39 more players entered the portal, and you can bet our staff has been in contact with some of them.

 

[GrizLA]

I doubt that will be true unless the coach makes substantial changes. UM is not a good team but a collection of talented players. Other teams in the BSC are also getting players back and it will be a couple years until UM gains back the top spot in the conference unless DC finds a solid floor leader. Parker is not it. Whitney, maybe. Owens to careless, Vasquez is a great shooter but not aggressive and Beardsley runs hot and cold. The lack of a solid big guy leaves much up to Bannon. .

It will be true. And who the f@ck is Beardsley?

oops..maybe he's the guy we need.

 

[Hoops watcher]

This is a great summary as always, however I do have to take exception with the 3/1 A/TO ratio. I looked at this year’s guards and UM’s assist leaders back to the 2002-2003 season and the only person that has sniffed 3/1 is Rorie with 2.7 in 2018-2019. There were many years under 2.0. And yes there could be some people that averaged 1 assist and .3 TOs, but as a personal preference doing analysis, that is irrelevant to me. If you have a high number of assists, I think 2.5 is very good. I would consider 3.0 elite and not the benchmark.

Parker 2.3
Whitney 1.2
Beasley. 0.8
Vasquez. 2.3

And for fun I looked up DeCuire’s
1.8
1.8
2.4
Career 2.0

13 guys in D1 with an A/TO margin over 3 this season. Out of roughly 5000 guys not real common. That's per NCAA stats.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Travis is on a two-game winning streak in conference tournament title games, and has won three regular season championships, in five years of coaching.

Name another Griz coach with that pedigree. I’ll hang up and wait.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Travis is on a two-game winning streak in conference tournament title games, and has won three regular season championships, in five years of coaching.

Name another Griz coach with that pedigree. I’ll hang up and wait.

Ya but this year sucks and we’ll never win again.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Travis is on a two-game winning streak in conference tournament title games, and has won three regular season championships, in five years of coaching.

Name another Griz coach with that pedigree. I’ll hang up and wait.

Ya but this year sucks and we’ll never win again.

‘Zactly. :twisted:

 

[hunt-ducks]

Boons:
--Our freshman class: Bannan, Whitney, Beasely. Unquestionably the most pleasant surprise of the season. Each made an auspicious debut against Pac-12 teams, Whitney and Bannon with 17 and 13 respectively against USC, which has turned out to to be a powerhouse team this year; and Beasely with 17 against Arizona, never a slouch program even in a down year. Watching these three develop if they stay in the program for as many as another four years? A delight.
--The improvement of Kyle Owens and Josh Vazquez over their freshman seasons. Owens is our leading scorer and virtually tied as our leading rebounder. I wonder if battling all those bigs down low hasn't worn on him over the year, yet he's capable of a 27-point outburst, as Weber found out. If he can muscle-up during the off-season, his potential in this program is unlimited. Vazquez meanwhile has emerged as our best clutch shooter while shooting 44% for deep and 90% from the foul line, Steph Curry numbers. Arizona announcers raved about his game. Not flashy but rock solid. I have the utmost confidence in him.
--Cameron Parker: Took me a while but he's won me over. As expected, team leader in assists--though his 2-1 assist-to-turnover ratio is short of the 3-1 you'd like But what's impressed even more is his shooting--46% for deep, and almost 80% from the foul line.
--Eddie Egun: With the emergence of the freshmen, I thought he might not have a place in this program. But he too has won me over with his elan, athleticism and shooting ability--still over 40% from deep, and 84% from the free-throw line. Plus he rebounds from the guard line. I still think he could blossom into a major star for us.

Bummers:
--Michael Steadman--nuff said--and Darius Henderson. Two big athletic studs were just what we needed, and had they played to the level, say, of Jamar Akoh, we'd likely be a top seed this week. Our staff took their shot--and missed. And barring a miracle run this week in Boise, that was the season right there.
--Derrick Carter-Hollinger. Usually a player makes the biggest leap between his freshman and sophomore years, and if that freshman was the Big Sky's Freshman of the Year, you have high expectations for his sophomore year. But sadly, not only was it not to be, you can't even say he played up to his freshman season. This is a high-character young man and there's no evidence the effort has been lacking. But his shot is missing--11% from deep--and he looks like a player who is desperately trying to find himself. Concussion? Covid? Let's hope next year his moniker is, "Comeback Kid." I'm betting on him.
--Our offense. In life, whether in romance, or investing, or succeeding or even in failing, you have to have a "story." And the "story" of this basketball program has been nothing but wonderful ever since DeCuire took over. It's a story of a winning program led by a high-character coach who graduates his players and insists that his team play tough tenacious defense. But our offense? There simply is no "story." Nothing noteworthy, nothing to report. As has been pointed out on this board, there's no tempo, no precision to the plays, no cutting to the basket, little movement off the ball, no emphasis on three-point shooting, no post game and no mustard like the occasional lob dunk. If our offense were a movie, you'd leave after the first ten minutes. It's like our kids are just passing the ball around until they can get back on defense. I hope DeCuire can look at this during the off-season. I'm urging an offensive coordinator, an assistant to take over this part of the game. Like many on this board when it comes to our offense, I just want a "story."

Great Post City!

I agree about your post. You take some heat on here from fans who don't want to discuss any criticisms of the program. We can all be glass half full posters all of the time, or we can actually discuss basketball. The Griz are not perfect, or else they would have been a higher seed in the tournament. Personally, I love talking X's and O's, and have no problem in being critical if I think it is deserved. Keep posting Citay. You seem to know the game of BB very well. It is much easier to be fan who never questions..... but what fun is that?