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Boise St

Air Force has been invited and are still deciding. If they do not go to the Big East, then Temple would be the next in line to join the Big East. Air Force would be football only if they joined the Big East.
 
Word is that Boise and San Diego St are both looking for a conference for other sports. It seems that Boise is leaning towards the WAC and San Diego St is leaning towards the Big West. The Big Sky and WCC are considered longshots.
 
Boise State is football only to the Big East. Since the MWC does not allow non-football playing members, Boise State's other sports will be looking for homes. BSU would like to put its other sports in WCC, although Broncos are not a fit since that conference is comprised of religious-based schools. (BYU, Gonzaga, Santa Clara, etc.)

Boise State could end up in the Big West or maybe even back in the WAC, depending on things. Possible but doubtful they end up in the Big Sky.
 
I will say this...

It would be an idiotic move for the Vandals to move down to the BSC. We are already the bloat conference & we don't need another.

Now... on the other hand if both UM & MSU moved up to fill the vacant spots in the WAC... that may be an interesting idea.
 
Boise St. learned this year that the MWC has some problems. Namely their terrible, and I mean, TERRIBLE, tv contract. I am convinced that the TV contract is what drove Utah, BYU out to begin with. Ya the BCS thing is there, but they could have gotten that if they all stayed. I would hate to see the Griz move up even into the MWC as I think you would see them on TV less than they are now. The Mountain is that bad........
 
GrizMusician said:
I will say this...

It would be an idiotic move for the Vandals to move down to the BSC. We are already the bloat conference & we don't need another.

Now... on the other hand if both UM & MSU moved up to fill the vacant spots in the WAC... that may be an interesting idea.
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Actually, it makes perfect sense for the Big Sky to add one more. Doing so puts the conference at 14, which allows it to split into two divisions. Obviously, Idaho fits perfectly into the conference's geographic footprint.

It would be more idiotic for UM and MSU to join a WAC conference that consists of Idaho, New Mexico St., a couple of FBS newbies (UTSA, Texas St.) and a few non-football schools (Denver, Seattle, UTA). Seems as though LaTech, Utah St. and San Jose St. may be gone from the WAC soon, so that's all that would be left. If so, the Big Sky would be a stronger conference.
 
GrizFanStuckInUtah said:
Boise St. learned this year that the MWC has some problems. Namely their terrible, and I mean, TERRIBLE, tv contract. I am convinced that the TV contract is what drove Utah, BYU out to begin with. Ya the BCS thing is there, but they could have gotten that if they all stayed. I would hate to see the Griz move up even into the MWC as I think you would see them on TV less than they are now. The Mountain is that bad........
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it is not so much that the MW TV deal is so bad as far as showing games, it is the fact that it does not give teams as much money as the BCS TV deals get. Each MWC team currently gets 1.5 million in revenue from their TV deal year. The PAC-12 teams get nearly 20 million each year. So when Utah and TCU, and now Boise State, had the chance to get that kind of money, it was a no brainer. But in Montana's case, I am sure $1.5 million is much more than what they are receiving now from their current TV deal.

As far as viewing the games, in the local areas, it is part of the local cable packages AND for those not in the local area, it is available on Dish and DirecTV. Basically EVERY non-conference home football game is shown, as well as every conference game. In addition, around 15-20 basketball games would be carried, as well as many women's basketball games. So, in fact, people would be able to watch more UM sports on television.
 
MrTitleist said:
Boise hasn't been guaranteed any TV money yet, the Big East doesn't have a TV deal in place.
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I know...and that makes the move that much more interesting. Because the Big East's TV deal will not be anywhere near what the Pac-12 of SEC is, let alone the Big 10 or the Big 12. It may well only be a million or so more than what Boise is getting right now. Then you have the possibility that the Big East does not keep its AQ status in the BCS. Or, possibly, that the BCS model is changed/tweaked.

There is a lot of uncertainty with Boise State making the move, but college sports has become teams chasing TV $$$ and BCS Bowl $$.

I actually think that if Boise State would have received an at-large bid, they stay in the MWC. But since they got screwed, and also that a crappy West Virginia team gets the Big East BCS bid, BSU decided to roll the dice and head to the Big East.
 
GrizBacker04 said:
At this point, if the Mountain West does not invite Idaho, the Vandals best move would be to drop back down to the FCS level and rejoin the Big Sky Conference. Idaho has gone to 1 bowl game since it made the move to 1A. But yeah, it would take a lot for Idaho to swallow its pride and make the logical move.
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The Vandal faithful in my family are screaming to move back down... they hate losing and losing and losing and losing. They know they can't compete with Boise and Wazoo (and additional Pac-12'ers) cleaning up the very few FBS talents in the Northwest. I guess it's who you want to listen to...
 
GrizBacker04 said:
GrizFanStuckInUtah said:
Boise St. learned this year that the MWC has some problems. Namely their terrible, and I mean, TERRIBLE, tv contract. I am convinced that the TV contract is what drove Utah, BYU out to begin with. Ya the BCS thing is there, but they could have gotten that if they all stayed. I would hate to see the Griz move up even into the MWC as I think you would see them on TV less than they are now. The Mountain is that bad........
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it is not so much that the MW TV deal is so bad as far as showing games, it is the fact that it does not give teams as much money as the BCS TV deals get. Each MWC team currently gets 1.5 million in revenue from their TV deal year. The PAC-12 teams get nearly 20 million each year. So when Utah and TCU, and now Boise State, had the chance to get that kind of money, it was a no brainer. But in Montana's case, I am sure $1.5 million is much more than what they are receiving now from their current TV deal.

As far as viewing the games, in the local areas, it is part of the local cable packages AND for those not in the local area, it is available on Dish and DirecTV. Basically EVERY non-conference home football game is shown, as well as every conference game. In addition, around 15-20 basketball games would be carried, as well as many women's basketball games. So, in fact, people would be able to watch more UM sports on television.
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You would think that would be the case but it never seems to work out that way. Boise lost a ton of coverage this year in the MWC. Utah and BYU got way more coverage this year than last. The WAC really does have more exposure than the MWC as far as TV, maybe not more money, but more exposure. If you ever sit down and watch a game on the Mountain, you will know why I think we should avoid it like the plague. They are going to have to adopt a new conference motto soon:

MWC - We really are the new WAC. :mrgreen:
 
GrizFanStuckInUtah said:
GrizBacker04 said:
GrizFanStuckInUtah said:
Boise St. learned this year that the MWC has some problems. Namely their terrible, and I mean, TERRIBLE, tv contract. I am convinced that the TV contract is what drove Utah, BYU out to begin with. Ya the BCS thing is there, but they could have gotten that if they all stayed. I would hate to see the Griz move up even into the MWC as I think you would see them on TV less than they are now. The Mountain is that bad........
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it is not so much that the MW TV deal is so bad as far as showing games, it is the fact that it does not give teams as much money as the BCS TV deals get. Each MWC team currently gets 1.5 million in revenue from their TV deal year. The PAC-12 teams get nearly 20 million each year. So when Utah and TCU, and now Boise State, had the chance to get that kind of money, it was a no brainer. But in Montana's case, I am sure $1.5 million is much more than what they are receiving now from their current TV deal.

As far as viewing the games, in the local areas, it is part of the local cable packages AND for those not in the local area, it is available on Dish and DirecTV. Basically EVERY non-conference home football game is shown, as well as every conference game. In addition, around 15-20 basketball games would be carried, as well as many women's basketball games. So, in fact, people would be able to watch more UM sports on television.
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You would think that would be the case but it never seems to work out that way. Boise lost a ton of coverage this year in the MWC. Utah and BYU got way more coverage this year than last. The WAC really does have more exposure than the MWC as far as TV, maybe not more money, but more exposure. If you ever sit down and watch a game on the Mountain, you will know why I think we should avoid it like the plague. They are going to have to adopt a new conference motto soon:

MWC - We really are the new WAC. :mrgreen:
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While I am Griz alum, lived in Las Vegas for 6 years and for a variety of reasons, became a big fan of UNLV athletics as well as a follower of the MWC. I know all about the Mtn., CBS-College Sports, etc., the TV contract. Moved back to Montana a year-and-a-half ago and have been able to watch a ton of UNLV games (and other MWC contests) with Dish Network.

Not sure how you can say Boise lost a ton of exposure by moving to the MWC. In all actuality, they were probably on TV more than last year, due to the MWC's TV contract. Just not on the mothership that is ESPN. And BSU didn't have to play all those Friday games that they did with ESPN. Plus, there will be the added hoops games, as well as having soccer games picked up this year, etc., that Boise State will lose once they leave the MWC.

Will be interesting to see what the Big East TV contract is like. Depends on who it goes to, it might be worse than even the MWC's as far as exposure and availability go.
 
AQ more than likely won't exist in two years, so I don't know why they rushed to move. Even then, had the Big East not announced this move they were in serious jeopardy of losing AQ status, and a waiver wouldn't have saved them.
 
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