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[CDAGRIZ]

Ummm, yes, that's largely correct, although even back in the Dornblazer days, UM outdrew a number of current BSC schools.

But again, your post seems to support the argument that Montana is well-positioned for a move-up.

I honestly do not care what Montana does.

I wonder if the the Big Sky Conference cares. Probably not.

They're building an app to find out.


Oh wait. No, it'll just redirect you to the Magic 8 Ball site.

HA! And the answer is always: "Add more NCUs and SUUs."

 

[Ursus1]

Did I just read someone compare Moscow Idaho to Missoula Montana? An impressive amount of tequila in the bloodstream can't even temper that idea..

And Ursus1, I actually agree with you on a whole bunch of stuff you write. But, there is another thing that you have hammered on quite a bit, that I wholeheartedly disagree with. The QB sneak in short yardage situations..

QB sneak with 4th and short is BY FAR the most successful 1st down achieving play for the money..

Lastly, Herradura scotch-cask finished tequila may be the death of me..it shall be a warm and fuzzy death..

I like a QB sneak too....but when you bring that many offensive players inside the tackles it allows defense to also extra load the box. Try one with the push te QB trick, ok I get it once. But twice? I sure would have liked a play more like they ran against NDSU with heavy backfield and big back (I know that was Counts....but Ryan was available. After watching him pound the line in the Shrine game with two torn labrum which was very impressive I think he could be utilized for that type of play ). When Gus is under center it was dead give away for defense to sell out in those gaps. But I guess if can't get 1/2 yard doing it twice that's more a sign of oline play than anything.

 

[Ursus1]

This is one of the points conveniently excluded when people say there isn't additional money if Montana were to move up to the FBS level. We'll likely get 450,000 next year when we play at Washington. If we were FBS, we'd get $1.25 million or more to play that game. That one game would make up the cost of the additional scholarships, and we're already playing it! Why not do so and earn 3 times the money??

I think better get back to playing for championships first....Missoula is no Boise....closer to a Moscow. Montana's 49th in wages....not a lot of people will be willing to shell out big dollars to watch a team win a game or two per year. MSU would love for UM to move up....they will then truly own the state. UM out draws a lot of FBS teams for a reason.....winning. Every coach that has left to FBS jobs is said to have gone to a coaching blackhole, Montana would become another.

Why? Boise moved up 25 years ago. Why don't we use a the teams that moved up most recently and are very like Montana. App wasn't winning championships when they moved up. Neither was GA Southern. Both are doing fine and drawing well. And neither is a flagship university in their state.

What many don't acknowledge is that UM has a great deal of advantages over nearly any team that has moved up. To say that they would definitely lose at that level is short-sighted in my mind.

Kids like to play closer to home if possible....compare the population withing 300 miles of Missoula and other FBS teams that have recently moved up. Not to mention the recruiting edge those schools have with population centers withing driving range. Takes a lot for a kid from a big city to move thousands of miles to a town the size of Missoula and not get culture shock. Idaho was an upper level FCS type team but can't get the number and quality of athletes to compete FBS. Big mistake they are now paying for. NDSU "might" be okay because of being closer to Midwest population centers, but my guess would still be mid level FBS if has to play entire season at that level, and if go .500 won't be long and the Bizon fan support would fade.

 

[EverettGriz]

What does Boise have near it, except Boise? It's at least 400 miles to another place of any size from there. And Boise was probably 1/3 its current population when BSU moved up. And let's be perfectly honest: Boise, Idaho is not exactly a cultural mecca for inner city kids. Missoula would be able to recruit just fine at the FBS level. And we'd do so from the same geographic areas we recruit from now.

 

[BigSkyBears]

I honestly do not care what Montana does.

Well, you seem to, since you post on every thread on which it's mentioned.

No...I hope Montana stays, but as I mentioned I don't think I would lose a second of sleep over it. I have bigger worries in life than what level of football Montana plays at. I only try to worry about things I can control.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I honestly do not care what Montana does.

Well, you seem to, since you post on every thread on which it's mentioned.

No...I hope Montana stays,

I thought you didn't care.

 

[Ursus1]

I just don't get how when you have arguably the best facilities, best attendance and fan base in FCS yet while only recruiting head to head with other FCS teams and you can't dominate a conference (lost to preseason #9 in conference today )that people think moving to FBS competing head to head with programs with better facilities, bigger fan bases and substantially more donor money would be a good move.....unless you like the chance at playing in a WhoCares.com bowl with a great season of 5-3.

 

[EverettGriz]

I just don't get how when you have arguably the best facilities, best attendance and fan base in FCS yet while only recruiting head to head with other FCS teams and you can't dominate a conference (lost to preseason #9 in conference today )that people think moving to FBS competing head to head with programs with better facilities, bigger fan bases and substantially more donor money would be a good move.....unless you like the chance at playing in a WhoCares.com bowl with a great season of 5-3.

I dunno. Perhaps because it's worked well for other programs with far less success and inferior facilities to Montana's?

 

[BigSkyBears]

I just don't get how when you have arguably the best facilities, best attendance and fan base in FCS yet while only recruiting head to head with other FCS teams and you can't dominate a conference (lost to preseason #9 in conference today )that people think moving to FBS competing head to head with programs with better facilities, bigger fan bases and substantially more donor money would be a good move.....unless you like the chance at playing in a WhoCares.com bowl with a great season of 5-3.

I dunno. Perhaps because it's worked well for other programs with far less success and inferior facilities to Montana's?

So maybe facilities aren't everything in college football?

 

[EverettGriz]

I just don't get how when you have arguably the best facilities, best attendance and fan base in FCS yet while only recruiting head to head with other FCS teams and you can't dominate a conference (lost to preseason #9 in conference today )that people think moving to FBS competing head to head with programs with better facilities, bigger fan bases and substantially more donor money would be a good move.....unless you like the chance at playing in a WhoCares.com bowl with a great season of 5-3.

I dunno. Perhaps because it's worked well for other programs with far less success and inferior facilities to Montana's?

So maybe facilities aren't everything in college football?

Perhaps that's true. Or perhaps -- and this would seem to be the more logical conclusion (understanding that the anti-FBS crowd rarely considers logic in this discussion) -- UM is simply better positioned to move up and have success at the next level.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I just don't get how when you have arguably the best facilities, best attendance and fan base in FCS yet while only recruiting head to head with other FCS teams and you can't dominate a conference (lost to preseason #9 in conference today )that people think moving to FBS competing head to head with programs with better facilities, bigger fan bases and substantially more donor money would be a good move.....unless you like the chance at playing in a WhoCares.com bowl with a great season of 5-3.

I would guess that factors other than those you mentioned play into recruiting. And, you don't think UNDSU would jump to FBS in a heartbeat in the right situation and forego FCS chippers for WhoCares.com bowls? I think they would.