The_Real_Chief
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I'm a huge fan of this hire for sure!
Yes. I was in the Air Force for 9 years and the military consistently does these things. It's the politicians that muck up the works.SaskGriz said:Looks like a great hire for higher education. It's awesome that they got young blood, with Missoula connections. A Rhodes scholarship is the peak of academic success.
Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
Two questions that occur to me in reading the comments.
Where did the myth that academia is less accountable than the business world spring up from? Sure a tenured prof can't be gotten rid of easily but then those business geniuses who ran AIG, Enron and were the architects behind the 2007 economic crisis did not really get held to account either.
Why is his being a military man important? Have US military leaders shown themselves to be exceptional at meeting goals, fiscal management, eliminating waste, or stream lining systems?
grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
maroonandsilver said:First item of business President Bodnar: burn your wife's Cat gear!
AZDoc said:2016 survey of college presidents:
Presidential Selection: The increasing debate on hiring presidents without academic leadership experience is top of mind for campus leaders. Fifty-four percent of college presidents strongly agree or agree the traditional emphasis on hiring presidents with extensive careers in academe is appropriate, while 22 percent strongly disagree or disagree. Forty-seven percent of presidents strongly agree or agree that college presidents should have a Ph.D., compared with 32 percent who strongly disagree or disagree.
I didn't read all the info, so this could be crap, but was just googling to see how many university presidents do not have a PhD and this came up FWIW.
https://www.hobsons.com/resources/entry/the-2016-survey-of-college-and-university-presidents
You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.SaskGriz said:Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
maroonandsilver said:First item of business President Bodnar: burn your wife's Cat gear!
kemajic said:You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.SaskGriz said:Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
That said, the president of a university is not a researcher. He/she needs less focused, but far broader skills and experience. He/she needs to be a tough manager. Faculties are not easy to manage and they do need to be managed. State governments need to lobbied for fair funding. The product needs to be in demand, provide value and marketed. There are public relations to be concerned with to maintain a positive image for the institution. Finances are not secondary in the operation of a university. Academia today is no less a swamp than DC. Bodnar looks ideal to me for this role. We are lucky for his application.
kemajic said:You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.SaskGriz said:Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
That said, the president of a university is not a researcher. He/she needs less focused, but far broader skills and experience. He/she needs to be a tough manager. Faculties are not easy to manage and they do need to be managed. State governments need to lobbied for fair funding. The product needs to be in demand, provide value and marketed. There are public relations to be concerned with to maintain a positive image for the institution. Finances are not secondary in the operation of a university. Academia today is no less a swamp than DC. Bodnar looks ideal to me for this role. We are lucky for his application.
grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
Htowngriz said:grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
Why am I not surprised that the egghead who's never had a real job doesn't like this? :lol:
GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
How about one or three year growth? Why did they recently ground their corporate jets? Why did their CEO resign early? Why are they selling off large parts of their business? And, why is this exec seeking a way out by coming here?IdaGriz01 said:GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
Company value: just under $400 billion
Revenue: $128 billion (5-yr average)
Generally runs in the top 10-15 most profitable U. S. companies.
Dividend yield: 4% (5-yr growth, 14.9%)
Considered one of the most recognizable/known brands in the world.
One the top suppliers of aircraft engines (military and civilian) in the world.
Its Power division is the largest developer and supplier of such in the world (talking about giant turbines for power generation and so on).
Looks pretty healthy to me. With that dividend, we might own some of its stock … if the P/E (abt 28) weren’t so high.
I'm assuming your vulgar-gesture video is the sum total of your (very mature) response.grizpsych said:IdaGriz01 said:GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.grizpsych said:He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
Company value: just under $400 billion
Revenue: $128 billion (5-yr average)
Generally runs in the top 10-15 most profitable U. S. companies.
Dividend yield: 4% (5-yr growth, 14.9%)
Considered one of the most recognizable/known brands in the world.
One the top suppliers of aircraft engines (military and civilian) in the world.
Its Power division is the largest developer and supplier of such in the world (talking about giant turbines for power generation and so on).
Looks pretty healthy to me. With that dividend, we might own some of its stock … if the P/E (abt 28) weren’t so high.