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Bodnar is the choice

Looks like a great hire for higher education. It's awesome that they got young blood, with Missoula connections. A Rhodes scholarship is the peak of academic success.

Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.

Two questions that occur to me in reading the comments.

Where did the myth that academia is less accountable than the business world spring up from? Sure a tenured prof can't be gotten rid of easily but then those business geniuses who ran AIG, Enron and were the architects behind the 2007 economic crisis did not really get held to account either.

Why is his being a military man important? Have US military leaders shown themselves to be exceptional at meeting goals, fiscal management, eliminating waste, or stream lining systems?
 
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
 
SaskGriz said:
Looks like a great hire for higher education. It's awesome that they got young blood, with Missoula connections. A Rhodes scholarship is the peak of academic success.

Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.

Two questions that occur to me in reading the comments.

Where did the myth that academia is less accountable than the business world spring up from? Sure a tenured prof can't be gotten rid of easily but then those business geniuses who ran AIG, Enron and were the architects behind the 2007 economic crisis did not really get held to account either.

Why is his being a military man important? Have US military leaders shown themselves to be exceptional at meeting goals, fiscal management, eliminating waste, or stream lining systems?
Yes. I was in the Air Force for 9 years and the military consistently does these things. It's the politicians that muck up the works.

Being an Academy grad is even better.
 
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...

Why am I not surprised that the egghead who's never had a real job doesn't like this? :lol:
 
Great choice. Young, experienced in the business world, experience with using technology to market, experience working with a great team (Green Berets), an NCAA Div. 1 college athlete (Baseball), reached the peak of higher education (Rhodes Scholar), married to a Rhodes Scholar, wants to live in Missoula MT to raise his family, and is energetic, YET......some people will still complain. This is a home run. Actually, this is a grand slam in the bottom of the 9th in game 7 of the world series with UM down by 3.

Great hire and even if he doesn't work out it's definitely the right risk to take at this point for the University.
 
2016 survey of college presidents:
Presidential Selection: The increasing debate on hiring presidents without academic leadership experience is top of mind for campus leaders. Fifty-four percent of college presidents strongly agree or agree the traditional emphasis on hiring presidents with extensive careers in academe is appropriate, while 22 percent strongly disagree or disagree. Forty-seven percent of presidents strongly agree or agree that college presidents should have a Ph.D., compared with 32 percent who strongly disagree or disagree.

I didn't read all the info, so this could be crap, but was just googling to see how many university presidents do not have a PhD and this came up FWIW.

https://www.hobsons.com/resources/entry/the-2016-survey-of-college-and-university-presidents
 
Prez Bodnar speaking to EGriz when addressing declining enrollment and not making the playoffs in football:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbpmeUODME[/youtube]
 
AZDoc said:
2016 survey of college presidents:
Presidential Selection: The increasing debate on hiring presidents without academic leadership experience is top of mind for campus leaders. Fifty-four percent of college presidents strongly agree or agree the traditional emphasis on hiring presidents with extensive careers in academe is appropriate, while 22 percent strongly disagree or disagree. Forty-seven percent of presidents strongly agree or agree that college presidents should have a Ph.D., compared with 32 percent who strongly disagree or disagree.

I didn't read all the info, so this could be crap, but was just googling to see how many university presidents do not have a PhD and this came up FWIW.

https://www.hobsons.com/resources/entry/the-2016-survey-of-college-and-university-presidents

Would be interesting to see how many of those folks have phd's. I would guess that it breaks down close to 60-68%. :)
 
SaskGriz said:
Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.

That said, the president of a university is not a researcher. He/she needs less focused, but far broader skills and experience. He/she needs to be a tough manager. Faculties are not easy to manage and they do need to be managed. State governments need to be lobbied for fair funding. The product needs to be in demand, provide value and marketed. There are public relations to be concerned with to maintain a positive image for the institution. Finances are not secondary in the operation of a university. Academia today is no less a swamp than DC. Bodnar looks ideal to me for this role. We are lucky for his application.
 
kemajic said:
SaskGriz said:
Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.

That said, the president of a university is not a researcher. He/she needs less focused, but far broader skills and experience. He/she needs to be a tough manager. Faculties are not easy to manage and they do need to be managed. State governments need to lobbied for fair funding. The product needs to be in demand, provide value and marketed. There are public relations to be concerned with to maintain a positive image for the institution. Finances are not secondary in the operation of a university. Academia today is no less a swamp than DC. Bodnar looks ideal to me for this role. We are lucky for his application.

Yes! I think you have to run it like a business at times, using certain aspects for things like recruitment, accountability, and overall daily function. Needs to be run a bit differently for other aspects, so having a broad base of knowledge is very important. Yours is an excellent post on this Kem!
 
kemajic said:
SaskGriz said:
Also not having a PhD is meaningless; A PhD is recognition that you know no more about something no one else cares about than anyone else on Earth.
You're completely off the tracks here. Ever hear of research? Do you think it's undergraduates who are pushing back the barriers of science in chemistry, physics, math, biology, environmental science? Profs would get little research done but for PH.D. students doing the work. You're suggesting that advanced degree pursuit results in no more useful knowledge and capability, which is just crazy.

That said, the president of a university is not a researcher. He/she needs less focused, but far broader skills and experience. He/she needs to be a tough manager. Faculties are not easy to manage and they do need to be managed. State governments need to lobbied for fair funding. The product needs to be in demand, provide value and marketed. There are public relations to be concerned with to maintain a positive image for the institution. Finances are not secondary in the operation of a university. Academia today is no less a swamp than DC. Bodnar looks ideal to me for this role. We are lucky for his application.

Well said. I would underscore the university has products, they need to be relevant for the times & ideally, should be renown. & while there’s some of this already going on, won’t hurt to continue adding on.
 
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...

Wrong.


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Htowngriz said:
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...

Why am I not surprised that the egghead who's never had a real job doesn't like this? :lol:

Interesting? What do you consider a 'real job'? And why are you a fan of a university program if you don't respect educators?
 
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.

Company value: just under $400 billion
Revenue: $128 billion (5-yr average)
Generally runs in the top 10-15 most profitable U. S. companies.
Dividend yield: 4% (5-yr growth, 14.9%)
Considered one of the most recognizable/known brands in the world.

One the top suppliers of aircraft engines (military and civilian) in the world.
Its Power division is the largest developer and supplier of such in the world (talking about giant turbines for power generation and so on).

Looks pretty healthy to me. With that dividend, we might own some of its stock … if the P/E (abt 28) weren’t so high.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.

Company value: just under $400 billion
Revenue: $128 billion (5-yr average)
Generally runs in the top 10-15 most profitable U. S. companies.
Dividend yield: 4% (5-yr growth, 14.9%)
Considered one of the most recognizable/known brands in the world.

One the top suppliers of aircraft engines (military and civilian) in the world.
Its Power division is the largest developer and supplier of such in the world (talking about giant turbines for power generation and so on).

Looks pretty healthy to me. With that dividend, we might own some of its stock … if the P/E (abt 28) weren’t so high.
How about one or three year growth? Why did they recently ground their corporate jets? Why did their CEO resign early? Why are they selling off large parts of their business? And, why is this exec seeking a way out by coming here?

I hope it works of course. I just have doubts. It didn't work here at my university.
 
grizpsych said:
IdaGriz01 said:
grizpsych said:
He has no experience as an academic/faculty member and plenty experience as an executive of a failing company. This should go well...
GE a “failing company?” Hmmm … let's see.

Company value: just under $400 billion
Revenue: $128 billion (5-yr average)
Generally runs in the top 10-15 most profitable U. S. companies.
Dividend yield: 4% (5-yr growth, 14.9%)
Considered one of the most recognizable/known brands in the world.

One the top suppliers of aircraft engines (military and civilian) in the world.
Its Power division is the largest developer and supplier of such in the world (talking about giant turbines for power generation and so on).

Looks pretty healthy to me. With that dividend, we might own some of its stock … if the P/E (abt 28) weren’t so high.
I'm assuming your vulgar-gesture video is the sum total of your (very mature) response.
 
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