Bobby Hauck

[GrizRealist]

I hate to tell you guys this but as much as you guys all want Bobby Hauck to come back, he's not. There is no way Haslam will hire him. He is very much responsible for the rapes at UM, nobody in the athletic department liked him, and I guarantee you Haslam would not be willing to hire him. However if Stitt doesn't work out, I'm sure that there will be lots of other good candidates interested in the job. Call me crazy but I actually think Beau Baldwin might be interested in the job. He applied for the job in 2015 before withdrawing, Cal is having a miserable season (including almost losing to Weber) plus he might realize being a PAC 12 offensive coordinator isn't all it's cracked up to be. He might want the power of being a head coach again.

I wont speak to most of this, but there was quite a bit of contention between Hauck and the staff in the athletic department. I know for a fact at one point he refused to speak with O'day in person and would only communicate via email. He was a good coach, and won a lot of games here, but he was not exactly a great coworker. The folks in the Athletics office were not sad to see him go, and before all you Hauck supporters jump all over me, I know this to be fact, and have heard from multiple people I know well that have or still do work for UM athletics. All this being said, I'm not so sure we are in a bad enough spot for those people to be willing to vouch on his behalf to come back and coach at UM. I cant imagine why they would want to subject that department to his behavior for a second time.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

I'm going to work on a Data Science project for Egriz and see how many times the words "Bobby Hauck" are mentioned on here after a loss.

 

[ari gold]

I'm going to work on a Data Science project for Egriz and see how many times the words "Bobby Hauck" are mentioned on here after a loss.

Definitely a positive correlation that continues to trend higher not only with a loss, but with anything that is not a blowout and complete domination of of three phases of the game over all 4 quarters.

 

[Paytonlives]

There is so much banter on this forum of Hauck coming back to missoula.. Is there ANY merit to all this talk of Bobby coming back? or is it a pipe dream? is it something that is in the realm of possibility?

No... He made one stupid comment and the vultures jumped.

 

[PlayerRep]

I’m not sure who Hallam is, however I’m certain that he can’t hire or fire anybody. Please explain how Hauck was responsible for all the rapes, and please explain which rapes other than Donaldson, or are you throwing in the alleged rapes that were never prosecuted.

Where did you come up with the fantasy that he was hated in the athletic department.

Look, Hauck was at UM 7 years and did nothing but win and keep the program relevant in the sphere of the FCS, got what he thought was the right move to make a lot of money going to the next level, not because the UM was going to fire him.

I think Hauck is making a mistake trying to come back, there just might be enough damage to the program after coach Stitt tenure, it may be difficult to get any coach of any stature to seek employment at the UM.

Because those were Haucks players. Were they not? Yes Pflugrad was the coach at the time but those were Haucks players.

At the end of the day, there wasn't any sexual assault, other than Donaldson's. 2 charged criminally, and JJ was acquitted, never lost his schollie, not kicked out of school and allowed to play 2 more years and graduate. No other player who bothered to get a lawyer was ever kicked out of school, and they were allowed to graduate.

Jeez, do you have sexual assault on the brain?

Sorry, just trying to point out that those are all his players that were accused of it.

Even that isn't accurate? Jeez, pls stop with the misinformation. To my recollection, of those "accused", only Donaldson was a Hauck recruit. In any event, none of the other accusations turned out to be true enough to get proved or to have any action taken on them.

 

[PlayerRep]

There is so much banter on this forum of Hauck coming back to missoula.. Is there ANY merit to all this talk of Bobby coming back? or is it a pipe dream? is it something that is in the realm of possibility?

No... He made one stupid comment and the vultures jumped.

There is all kinds of data, from those who know him, that support his interest in returning.

 

[dbackjon]

Hauck will be back in Missoula - coaching NAU

 

[PlayerRep]

I hate to tell you guys this but as much as you guys all want Bobby Hauck to come back, he's not. There is no way Haslam will hire him. He is very much responsible for the rapes at UM, nobody in the athletic department liked him, and I guarantee you Haslam would not be willing to hire him. However if Stitt doesn't work out, I'm sure that there will be lots of other good candidates interested in the job. Call me crazy but I actually think Beau Baldwin might be interested in the job. He applied for the job in 2015 before withdrawing, Cal is having a miserable season (including almost losing to Weber) plus he might realize being a PAC 12 offensive coordinator isn't all it's cracked up to be. He might want the power of being a head coach again.

I wont speak to most of this, but there was quite a bit of contention between Hauck and the staff in the athletic department. I know for a fact at one point he refused to speak with O'day in person and would only communicate via email. He was a good coach, and won a lot of games here, but he was not exactly a great coworker. The folks in the Athletics office were not sad to see him go, and before all you Hauck supporters jump all over me, I know this to be fact, and have heard from multiple people I know well that have or still do work for UM athletics. All this being said, I'm not so sure we are in a bad enough spot for those people to be willing to vouch on his behalf to come back and coach at UM. I cant imagine why they would want to subject that department to his behavior for a second time.

Sorry, but this isn't accurate. Hauck got along fine with the athletic dept. Yes, Hauck, like Larry K., went to bat for their programs. Yes, sometimes they and the athletic dept didn't agree, especially in the earlier years. Coaches of important sports and AD's don't always agree. That's the nature of the beast. I just got off the phone with O'Day. Didn't agree with your post. He described these issues as minor and normal. Said Hauck and Larry K. were terrific coaches and winners. Mentioned Bobby was pretty much all business. Not a friendly chatter like Glenn.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Hauck will be back in Missoula - coaching NAU

Wouldnt be surprised if you are right. I am sure he would like to coach his son. If UM admin, right or wrong, has a poor relationship with him and he was passed over when Stitt was hired I would bet Bobby would enjoy coaching NAU against the griz. Not because he does not love UM or Montana but to punish admin. He would have to win though or it would enforce admins position they were right not to hire him even if the reasons NAU doesnt win have little to do with coaching.

 

[MTGRZ]

I hate to tell you guys this but as much as you guys all want Bobby Hauck to come back, he's not. There is no way Haslam will hire him. He is very much responsible for the rapes at UM, nobody in the athletic department liked him, and I guarantee you Haslam would not be willing to hire him. However if Stitt doesn't work out, I'm sure that there will be lots of other good candidates interested in the job. Call me crazy but I actually think Beau Baldwin might be interested in the job. He applied for the job in 2015 before withdrawing, Cal is having a miserable season (including almost losing to Weber) plus he might realize being a PAC 12 offensive coordinator isn't all it's cracked up to be. He might want the power of being a head coach again.

I wont speak to most of this, but there was quite a bit of contention between Hauck and the staff in the athletic department. I know for a fact at one point he refused to speak with O'day in person and would only communicate via email. He was a good coach, and won a lot of games here, but he was not exactly a great coworker. The folks in the Athletics office were not sad to see him go, and before all you Hauck supporters jump all over me, I know this to be fact, and have heard from multiple people I know well that have or still do work for UM athletics. All this being said, I'm not so sure we are in a bad enough spot for those people to be willing to vouch on his behalf to come back and coach at UM. I cant imagine why they would want to subject that department to his behavior for a second time.

Sorry, but this isn't accurate. Hauck got along fine with the athletic dept. Yes, Hauck, like Larry K., went to bat for their programs. Yes, sometimes they and the athletic dept didn't agree, especially in the earlier years. Coaches of important sports and AD's don't always agree. That's the nature of the beast. I just got off the phone with O'Day. Didn't agree with your post. He described these issues as minor and normal. Said Hauck and Larry K. were terrific coaches and winners. Mentioned Bobby was pretty much all business. Not a friendly chatter like Glenn.

Listen to you....dropping names like that....cute.

BTW, I don't doubt what O'Day said. I wouldn't mind seeing Bobby at the helms once again either.

 

[PlayerRep]

I hate to tell you guys this but as much as you guys all want Bobby Hauck to come back, he's not. There is no way Haslam will hire him. He is very much responsible for the rapes at UM, nobody in the athletic department liked him, and I guarantee you Haslam would not be willing to hire him. However if Stitt doesn't work out, I'm sure that there will be lots of other good candidates interested in the job. Call me crazy but I actually think Beau Baldwin might be interested in the job. He applied for the job in 2015 before withdrawing, Cal is having a miserable season (including almost losing to Weber) plus he might realize being a PAC 12 offensive coordinator isn't all it's cracked up to be. He might want the power of being a head coach again.

I wont speak to most of this, but there was quite a bit of contention between Hauck and the staff in the athletic department. I know for a fact at one point he refused to speak with O'day in person and would only communicate via email. He was a good coach, and won a lot of games here, but he was not exactly a great coworker. The folks in the Athletics office were not sad to see him go, and before all you Hauck supporters jump all over me, I know this to be fact, and have heard from multiple people I know well that have or still do work for UM athletics. All this being said, I'm not so sure we are in a bad enough spot for those people to be willing to vouch on his behalf to come back and coach at UM. I cant imagine why they would want to subject that department to his behavior for a second time.

Sorry, but this isn't accurate. Hauck got along fine with the athletic dept. Yes, Hauck, like Larry K., went to bat for their programs. Yes, sometimes they and the athletic dept didn't agree, especially in the earlier years. Coaches of important sports and AD's don't always agree. That's the nature of the beast. I just got off the phone with O'Day. Didn't agree with your post. He described these issues as minor and normal. Said Hauck and Larry K. were terrific coaches and winners. Mentioned Bobby was pretty much all business. Not a friendly chatter like Glenn.

Listen to you....dropping names like that....cute.

BTW, I don't doubt what O'Day said. I wouldn't mind seeing Bobby at the helms once again either.

That isn't dropping names. It's providing the source of the information.

 

[Jaredkuehn]

Serious question for those of you who think Bobby Hauck could come back to UM. Considering everything that the University of Montana (not just the football program) has been through since 2011, and the efforts they have made to distance themselves from those events. Which of the UM presidential candidates do you think would have the political will to hire Bobby Hauck back early in their tenure?

Right or wrong, fair or not, in the public's perception, is Bobby Hauck too closely tied to the football team and everything that has transpired over the last few years?

Even if Haslam wants to bring Bobby Hauck back, you better believe that he is getting his new president's blessing before making any major coaching hires. How does Main Hall factor into this discussion?

 

[PlayerRep]

Serious question for those of you who think Bobby Hauck could come back to UM. Considering everything that the University of Montana (not just the football program) has been through since 2011, and the efforts they have made to distance themselves from those events. Which of the UM presidential candidates do you think would have the political will to hire Bobby Hauck back early in their tenure?

Right or wrong, fair or not, in the public's perception, is Bobby Hauck too closely tied to the football team and everything that has transpired over the last few years?

Even if Haslam wants to bring Bobby Hauck back, you better believe that he is getting his new president's blessing before making any major coaching hires. How does Main Hall factor into this discussion?

Good question. Don't know, but I think Hauck could get hired back. A lot of big boosters would likely "insist" on it, if he was interested. Not aware of any real or imagined issues that he's had since he left UM.

Question for you. What do you think that the football program did or went through since 2011, or before, that would cause someone not to hire back Hauck? And what did he do that would cause himself not to be hired?

I just don't get this continuing perception.

So, because JJ had his thing and there was a lot of bad presss, and even though he was exonerated, allowed to continue with football and graduate, and was recruited after Hauck left, then Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, the feds came in and investigated sexual assault in Missoula, and came up virtually empty handed, and virtually none of this had to do with Hauck or his recruits, and occurred after he left Missoula, he should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited a white kid from Missoula, and after Hauck departed, the kid had a sexual assault problem (which came to light over 2 years after Hauck left), so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, while Hauck was here, 3 players got in trouble with a house burglary, and Hauck booted them off the team immediately and they left school, so Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited Wilson, who got charged and was acquitted, and allowed to come back to UM after Hauck had departed (and then played in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, sexual assault allegations involving 4 or so guys who were not recruited by Hauck (to my knowledge), in an incident that occurred after Hauck was gone, and the allegations turned out to be unproven, so that should disqualify Hauck?

Or, Hauck had a single issue with one nosey Kaimin reporter, and refused to talk to him, and then had nice relationships for student sports reporters at UNLV, so he should be disqualified for something that was probably largely the fault of the Kaimin reporter.

Or, Hauck recruited Tru, who had a fight night pursued by legal authorities, and then Tru, after Hauck had been gone 2 years, ended up with a publicized nolo plea to misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and now is one of the highest paid corners in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Lots of fluff, but virtually no substance. Over the 7 years Hauck was the coach at UM, and several years thereafter.

Maybe what UM needed or needs to get away from were the misleading, exaggerated and false claims pushed by Florio, the Missoulian and Krak.

 

[DuCharme]

You're crazy. You said it, I didn't. But you're right.

 

[ari gold]

Serious question for those of you who think Bobby Hauck could come back to UM. Considering everything that the University of Montana (not just the football program) has been through since 2011, and the efforts they have made to distance themselves from those events. Which of the UM presidential candidates do you think would have the political will to hire Bobby Hauck back early in their tenure?

Right or wrong, fair or not, in the public's perception, is Bobby Hauck too closely tied to the football team and everything that has transpired over the last few years?

Even if Haslam wants to bring Bobby Hauck back, you better believe that he is getting his new president's blessing before making any major coaching hires. How does Main Hall factor into this discussion?

Good question. Don't know, but I think Hauck could get hired back. A lot of big boosters would likely "insist" on it, if he was interested. Not aware of any real or imagined issues that he's had since he left UM.

Question for you. What do you think that the football program did or went through since 2011, or before, that would cause someone not to hire back Hauck? And what did he do that would cause himself not to be hired?

I just don't get this continuing perception.

So, because JJ had his thing and there was a lot of bad presss, and even though he was exonerated, allowed to continue with football and graduate, and was recruited after Hauck left, then Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, the feds came in and investigated sexual assault in Missoula, and came up virtually empty handed, and virtually none of this had to do with Hauck or his recruits, and occurred after he left Missoula, he should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited a white kid from Missoula, and after Hauck departed, the kid had a sexual assault problem (which came to light over 2 years after Hauck left), so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, while Hauck was here, 3 players got in trouble with a house burglary, and Hauck booted them off the team immediately and they left school, so Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited Wilson, who got charged and was acquitted, and allowed to come back to UM after Hauck had departed (and then played in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, sexual assault allegations involving 4 or so guys who were not recruited by Hauck (to my knowledge), in an incident that occurred after Hauck was gone, and the allegations turned out to be unproven, so that should disqualify Hauck?

Or, Hauck had a single issue with one nosey Kaimin reporter, and refused to talk to him, and then had nice relationships for student sports reporters at UNLV, so he should be disqualified for something that was probably largely the fault of the Kaimin reporter.

Or, Hauck recruited Tru, who had a fight night pursued by legal authorities, and then Tru, after Hauck had been gone 2 years, ended up with a publicized nolo plea to misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and now is one of the highest paid corners in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Lots of fluff, but virtually no substance. Over the 7 years Hauck was the coach at UM, and several years thereafter.

Maybe what UM needed or needs to get away from were the misleading, exaggerated and false claims pushed by Florio, the Missoulian and Krak.

I think this all legit, well substantiated and provides a some insight to the folks who might not know how things really went down. That said, that could be the problem. While everything you said is correct, I think a lot of the public, and a handful of people on this board either dont know those facts, dont believe those facts or have settled on their own version of how things went down. Perception is powerful, and unfortunately really hard to control. I think if the public was better informed and the real narrative of what happened was more well known, the possibility of Bobby coaching here again wouldn't be met with so much push back, at least from the general public/fan.

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Serious question for those of you who think Bobby Hauck could come back to UM. Considering everything that the University of Montana (not just the football program) has been through since 2011, and the efforts they have made to distance themselves from those events. Which of the UM presidential candidates do you think would have the political will to hire Bobby Hauck back early in their tenure?

Right or wrong, fair or not, in the public's perception, is Bobby Hauck too closely tied to the football team and everything that has transpired over the last few years?

Even if Haslam wants to bring Bobby Hauck back, you better believe that he is getting his new president's blessing before making any major coaching hires. How does Main Hall factor into this discussion?

Good question. Don't know, but I think Hauck could get hired back. A lot of big boosters would likely "insist" on it, if he was interested. Not aware of any real or imagined issues that he's had since he left UM.

Question for you. What do you think that the football program did or went through since 2011, or before, that would cause someone not to hire back Hauck? And what did he do that would cause himself not to be hired?

I just don't get this continuing perception.

So, because JJ had his thing and there was a lot of bad presss, and even though he was exonerated, allowed to continue with football and graduate, and was recruited after Hauck left, then Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, the feds came in and investigated sexual assault in Missoula, and came up virtually empty handed, and virtually none of this had to do with Hauck or his recruits, and occurred after he left Missoula, he should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited a white kid from Missoula, and after Hauck departed, the kid had a sexual assault problem (which came to light over 2 years after Hauck left), so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, while Hauck was here, 3 players got in trouble with a house burglary, and Hauck booted them off the team immediately and they left school, so Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited Wilson, who got charged and was acquitted, and allowed to come back to UM after Hauck had departed (and then played in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, sexual assault allegations involving 4 or so guys who were not recruited by Hauck (to my knowledge), in an incident that occurred after Hauck was gone, and the allegations turned out to be unproven, so that should disqualify Hauck?

Or, Hauck had a single issue with one nosey Kaimin reporter, and refused to talk to him, and then had nice relationships for student sports reporters at UNLV, so he should be disqualified for something that was probably largely the fault of the Kaimin reporter.

Or, Hauck recruited Tru, who had a fight night pursued by legal authorities, and then Tru, after Hauck had been gone 2 years, ended up with a publicized nolo plea to misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and now is one of the highest paid corners in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Lots of fluff, but virtually no substance. Over the 7 years Hauck was the coach at UM, and several years thereafter.

Maybe what UM needed or needs to get away from were the misleading, exaggerated and false claims pushed by Florio, the Missoulian and Krak.

Very good post PlayerRep. Pretty much took away all arguments against Hauck .

 

[Great Day To Be An Eagle]

I hate to tell you guys this but as much as you guys all want Bobby Hauck to come back, he's not. There is no way Haslam will hire him. He is very much responsible for the rapes at UM, nobody in the athletic department liked him, and I guarantee you Haslam would not be willing to hire him. However if Stitt doesn't work out, I'm sure that there will be lots of other good candidates interested in the job. Call me crazy but I actually think Beau Baldwin might be interested in the job. He applied for the job in 2015 before withdrawing, Cal is having a miserable season (including almost losing to Weber) plus he might realize being a PAC 12 offensive coordinator isn't all it's cracked up to be. He might want the power of being a head coach again.

Cal is actually having a good year so far. Won their first three games. Two of them against SEC and ACC teams. Then they played USC pretty close most of the game.


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Yeah I was confused by the poster's comment that Cal was having a bad season. So far they've beyond exceeded expectations.

FTR, there is NO WAY in hell Baldwin gives up a Pac 12 OC job to take an FCS HC job. I believe he is the 3rd highest paid OC in the Pac 12 too. He aint taking the Montana job. Not now, not ever.

 

[Great Day To Be An Eagle]

Hauck will be back in Missoula - coaching NAU

I agree. I think he's NAU's coach next year.

 

[MTGRZ]

Serious question for those of you who think Bobby Hauck could come back to UM. Considering everything that the University of Montana (not just the football program) has been through since 2011, and the efforts they have made to distance themselves from those events. Which of the UM presidential candidates do you think would have the political will to hire Bobby Hauck back early in their tenure?

Right or wrong, fair or not, in the public's perception, is Bobby Hauck too closely tied to the football team and everything that has transpired over the last few years?

Even if Haslam wants to bring Bobby Hauck back, you better believe that he is getting his new president's blessing before making any major coaching hires. How does Main Hall factor into this discussion?

Good question. Don't know, but I think Hauck could get hired back. A lot of big boosters would likely "insist" on it, if he was interested. Not aware of any real or imagined issues that he's had since he left UM.

Question for you. What do you think that the football program did or went through since 2011, or before, that would cause someone not to hire back Hauck? And what did he do that would cause himself not to be hired?

I just don't get this continuing perception.

So, because JJ had his thing and there was a lot of bad presss, and even though he was exonerated, allowed to continue with football and graduate, and was recruited after Hauck left, then Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, the feds came in and investigated sexual assault in Missoula, and came up virtually empty handed, and virtually none of this had to do with Hauck or his recruits, and occurred after he left Missoula, he should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited a white kid from Missoula, and after Hauck departed, the kid had a sexual assault problem (which came to light over 2 years after Hauck left), so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, while Hauck was here, 3 players got in trouble with a house burglary, and Hauck booted them off the team immediately and they left school, so Hauck should be disqualified for that?

Or, Hauck recruited Wilson, who got charged and was acquitted, and allowed to come back to UM after Hauck had departed (and then played in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Or, sexual assault allegations involving 4 or so guys who were not recruited by Hauck (to my knowledge), in an incident that occurred after Hauck was gone, and the allegations turned out to be unproven, so that should disqualify Hauck?

Or, Hauck had a single issue with one nosey Kaimin reporter, and refused to talk to him, and then had nice relationships for student sports reporters at UNLV, so he should be disqualified for something that was probably largely the fault of the Kaimin reporter.

Or, Hauck recruited Tru, who had a fight night pursued by legal authorities, and then Tru, after Hauck had been gone 2 years, ended up with a publicized nolo plea to misdemeanor disorderly conduct, and now is one of the highest paid corners in the NFL, so Hauck should be disqualified?

Lots of fluff, but virtually no substance. Over the 7 years Hauck was the coach at UM, and several years thereafter.

Maybe what UM needed or needs to get away from were the misleading, exaggerated and false claims pushed by Florio, the Missoulian and Krak.

I think this all legit, well substantiated and provides a some insight to the folks who might not know how things really went down. That said, that could be the problem. While everything you said is correct, I think a lot of the public, and a handful of people on this board either dont know those facts, dont believe those facts or have settled on their own version of how things went down. Perception is powerful, and unfortunately really hard to control. I think if the public was better informed and the real narrative of what happened was more well known, the possibility of Bobby coaching here again wouldn't be met with so much push back, at least from the general public/fan.

Spot on. Perception is damn near everything in this case.

 

[ranco]

Too bad that a lot of people refuse to let facts get in the way of their perception.