Bob Stitt -- Not so fast!

[grizindabox]

so you don't want the guy because he might be too good and move to a bigger stage? Another dumb argument...and why don't you compare construction to being a football coach again...you know...since they are so similar

Do you know how to pick people out of a crowd? Obviously not. Look around. You just said yourself that he'd be loyal and now you're basically admitting that he could move on and you're ok with it. Whatever. I've heard enough about this guy and want Absolutely nothing to do with him. He said he would like to try this style out at the higher level, so don't put that on me in your next post.

I did not say he would be loyal...do you know how to read. I fail to see why it is such a big deal that a coach might have success and move on...Montana is a stepping stone and people have to realize that. Where would Joe Moglia be if AD's used the same uneducated thought process as you? Do you bid on construction jobs without using due diligence and research also?

 

[NLGrizFan]

so you don't want the guy because he might be too good and move to a bigger stage? Another dumb argument...and why don't you compare construction to being a football coach again...you know...since they are so similar

Do you know how to pick people out of a crowd? Obviously not. Look around. You just said yourself that he'd be loyal and now you're basically admitting that he could move on and you're ok with it. Whatever. I've heard enough about this guy and want Absolutely nothing to do with him. He said he would like to try this style out at the higher level, so don't put that on me in your next post.

I did not say he would be loyal...do you know how to read. I fail to see why it is such a big deal that a coach might have success and move on...Montana is a stepping stone and people have to realize that. Where would Joe Moglia be if AD's used the same uneducated thought process as you? Do you bid on construction jobs without using due diligence and research also?

*Facepalm* That's how we started this. 15 years...

 

[MrTitleist]

He has been quoted as saying he would like to use his style at a higher level. With the recognition that Montana gets, he wouldn't be around long. Without looking it up, tell me who won the DII chipper last year. Nobody cares about DII. He figured that if he sold his ideas to WV during the Orange Bowl someone would come find him. He's a wise old man and needs a stepping stone. He'll use Montana. Hauck on the other hand learned the hard way. Can't blame a guy for not trying and "moving up". Tough lesson. Been there, done that. I've ran my own construction company for many years and jumping into something bigger and better doesn't always work out. I do Not and Will Not support this guy. Way to many red flags for me. He will not be loyal to Montana. If he's hired and If he wins, he'll be gone in 5 years. This is Bobby Hauck's home. He left once and he's wanting to come back. As Montanans, we should welcome him back with open arms. He's like a neighbor. Unlike Egstrom and his wine tasting chorines. All he did was win at the DI level and there's no denying that.

So a guy who runs a clean program, has been successful, and has sparkling letters of reference to back him up gives you red flags, but a guy who recruited some less than stellar people while he was here that led to a crime spree across Missoula (some guilty, some not) and led to the national media to clown the university for weeks because of a spat with a student reporter doesn't present red flags?

 

[grizindabox]

so you don't want the guy because he might be too good and move to a bigger stage? Another dumb argument...and why don't you compare construction to being a football coach again...you know...since they are so similar

Do you know how to pick people out of a crowd? Obviously not. Look around. You just said yourself that he'd be loyal and now you're basically admitting that he could move on and you're ok with it. Whatever. I've heard enough about this guy and want Absolutely nothing to do with him. He said he would like to try this style out at the higher level, so don't put that on me in your next post.

I did not say he would be loyal...do you know how to read. I fail to see why it is such a big deal that a coach might have success and move on...Montana is a stepping stone and people have to realize that. Where would Joe Moglia be if AD's used the same uneducated thought process as you? Do you bid on construction jobs without using due diligence and research also?

*Facepalm* That's how we started this. 15 years...

I said that people could view that as loyalty to his school and not his lack of ability...and from the many rave reviews the guy gets from coaches at all levels...I think he has the ability.

 

[NLGrizFan]

He has been quoted as saying he would like to use his style at a higher level. With the recognition that Montana gets, he wouldn't be around long. Without looking it up, tell me who won the DII chipper last year. Nobody cares about DII. He figured that if he sold his ideas to WV during the Orange Bowl someone would come find him. He's a wise old man and needs a stepping stone. He'll use Montana. Hauck on the other hand learned the hard way. Can't blame a guy for not trying and "moving up". Tough lesson. Been there, done that. I've ran my own construction company for many years and jumping into something bigger and better doesn't always work out. I do Not and Will Not support this guy. Way to many red flags for me. He will not be loyal to Montana. If he's hired and If he wins, he'll be gone in 5 years. This is Bobby Hauck's home. He left once and he's wanting to come back. As Montanans, we should welcome him back with open arms. He's like a neighbor. Unlike Egstrom and his wine tasting chorines. All he did was win at the DI level and there's no denying that.

So a guy who runs a clean program, has been successful, and has sparkling letters of reference to back him up gives you red flags, but a guy who recruited some less than stellar people while he was here that led to a crime spree across Missoula (some guilty, some not) and led to the national media to clown the university for weeks because of a spat with a student reporter doesn't present red flags?

The fact that the guy wouldn't stick around is a red flag. The fact that he's been living under a log and throwing out ideas to passers by is weird and a red flag. The fact that he's turned down jobs at big time programs is a red flag. And on and on and on. I'm not buying into this guy.

Yes, Bobby had major problems at one point. Chances of him doing it again? Probably not very likely. People learn. And a guy in his position knows better to screw up like that again. Everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. Not a 3rd or 4th. A 2nd chance.

 

[MrTitleist]

Or maybe, like a lot of people, perhaps greener pastures doesn't outweigh uprooting your family from job to job. Some people don't feel the need professionally to job hop like many coaches do. We don't know why he hasn't tried to move up the ranks, but I'm guessing not wanting to be a job hopper is one of them.

 

[PlayerRep]

I was told that he would want to stay long term or longer term, and would not plan to use as a stepping stone. For kids/family reasons. This did not come via the athletic department. Don't know if this is accurate.

 

[grizindabox]

He has been quoted as saying he would like to use his style at a higher level. With the recognition that Montana gets, he wouldn't be around long. Without looking it up, tell me who won the DII chipper last year. Nobody cares about DII. He figured that if he sold his ideas to WV during the Orange Bowl someone would come find him. He's a wise old man and needs a stepping stone. He'll use Montana. Hauck on the other hand learned the hard way. Can't blame a guy for not trying and "moving up". Tough lesson. Been there, done that. I've ran my own construction company for many years and jumping into something bigger and better doesn't always work out. I do Not and Will Not support this guy. Way to many red flags for me. He will not be loyal to Montana. If he's hired and If he wins, he'll be gone in 5 years. This is Bobby Hauck's home. He left once and he's wanting to come back. As Montanans, we should welcome him back with open arms. He's like a neighbor. Unlike Egstrom and his wine tasting chorines. All he did was win at the DI level and there's no denying that.

So a guy who runs a clean program, has been successful, and has sparkling letters of reference to back him up gives you red flags, but a guy who recruited some less than stellar people while he was here that led to a crime spree across Missoula (some guilty, some not) and led to the national media to clown the university for weeks because of a spat with a student reporter doesn't present red flags?

The fact that the guy wouldn't stick around is a red flag. The fact that he's been living under a log and throwing out ideas to passers by is weird and a red flag. The fact that he's turned down jobs at big time programs is a red flag. And on and on and on. I'm not buying into this guy.

Yes, Bobby had major problems at one point. Chances of him doing it again? Probably not very likely. People learn. And a guy in his position knows better to screw up like that again. Everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. Not a 3rd or 4th. A 2nd chance.

Really, that is your issue...reality check for you...any guy that has success at Montana will move on if/when they have a chance, any guy that does not have success at Montana will move on and be replaced by someone else.

 

[NLGrizFan]

He has been quoted as saying he would like to use his style at a higher level. With the recognition that Montana gets, he wouldn't be around long. Without looking it up, tell me who won the DII chipper last year. Nobody cares about DII. He figured that if he sold his ideas to WV during the Orange Bowl someone would come find him. He's a wise old man and needs a stepping stone. He'll use Montana. Hauck on the other hand learned the hard way. Can't blame a guy for not trying and "moving up". Tough lesson. Been there, done that. I've ran my own construction company for many years and jumping into something bigger and better doesn't always work out. I do Not and Will Not support this guy. Way to many red flags for me. He will not be loyal to Montana. If he's hired and If he wins, he'll be gone in 5 years. This is Bobby Hauck's home. He left once and he's wanting to come back. As Montanans, we should welcome him back with open arms. He's like a neighbor. Unlike Egstrom and his wine tasting chorines. All he did was win at the DI level and there's no denying that.

So a guy who runs a clean program, has been successful, and has sparkling letters of reference to back him up gives you red flags, but a guy who recruited some less than stellar people while he was here that led to a crime spree across Missoula (some guilty, some not) and led to the national media to clown the university for weeks because of a spat with a student reporter doesn't present red flags?

The fact that the guy wouldn't stick around is a red flag. The fact that he's been living under a log and throwing out ideas to passers by is weird and a red flag. The fact that he's turned down jobs at big time programs is a red flag. And on and on and on. I'm not buying into this guy.

Yes, Bobby had major problems at one point. Chances of him doing it again? Probably not very likely. People learn. And a guy in his position knows better to screw up like that again. Everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. Not a 3rd or 4th. A 2nd chance.

Really, that is your issue...reality check for you...any guy that has success at Montana will move on if/when they have a chance, any guy that does not have success at Montana will move on and be replaced by someone else.

I thought we wanted someone who was gonna stick around? But yet we're on board with Stitt? No. Like him all you want. Now we're spinning circles...

 

[grzz]

Wow. You give Hauck every benefit of the doubt and every pass, make assumptions on things you don't know and make them positive...yet EVERYTHING about Stitt is a red flag.

As for head coaches who stayed D2 for a long time, how about Brian Kelly? 12 years a D2 head coach, 15 total at the program before he made the jump straight to FBS.

 

[grizindabox]

So a guy who runs a clean program, has been successful, and has sparkling letters of reference to back him up gives you red flags, but a guy who recruited some less than stellar people while he was here that led to a crime spree across Missoula (some guilty, some not) and led to the national media to clown the university for weeks because of a spat with a student reporter doesn't present red flags?

The fact that the guy wouldn't stick around is a red flag. The fact that he's been living under a log and throwing out ideas to passers by is weird and a red flag. The fact that he's turned down jobs at big time programs is a red flag. And on and on and on. I'm not buying into this guy.

Yes, Bobby had major problems at one point. Chances of him doing it again? Probably not very likely. People learn. And a guy in his position knows better to screw up like that again. Everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. Not a 3rd or 4th. A 2nd chance.

Really, that is your issue...reality check for you...any guy that has success at Montana will move on if/when they have a chance, any guy that does not have success at Montana will move on and be replaced by someone else.

I thought we wanted someone who was gonna stick around? But yet we're on board with Stitt? No. Like him all you want. Now we're spinning circles...

Point being, none of them stick around forever. You always "hope" that could be the case...but if the guy is good, you will lose him...if the guy is bad, you want to lose him...

 

[NLGrizFan]

The fact that the guy wouldn't stick around is a red flag. The fact that he's been living under a log and throwing out ideas to passers by is weird and a red flag. The fact that he's turned down jobs at big time programs is a red flag. And on and on and on. I'm not buying into this guy.

Yes, Bobby had major problems at one point. Chances of him doing it again? Probably not very likely. People learn. And a guy in his position knows better to screw up like that again. Everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. Not a 3rd or 4th. A 2nd chance.

Really, that is your issue...reality check for you...any guy that has success at Montana will move on if/when they have a chance, any guy that does not have success at Montana will move on and be replaced by someone else.

I thought we wanted someone who was gonna stick around? But yet we're on board with Stitt? No. Like him all you want. Now we're spinning circles...

Point being, none of them stick around forever. You always "hope" that could be the case...but if the guy is good, you will lose him...if the guy is bad, you want to lose him...

Cue the Delaney era. I think Bobby learned his lesson. And the desert sucks compared to mountains

 

[For What It's Worth]

Perhaps UNC should have hired him and they wouldn't be in the mess they're perpetually in.

Exactly. That is like saying a player is no good because he did not get drafted by a bad team. While I favor Hauck coming back, we cannot critize Stitt until we see his work at this level.

Hopefully we don't see it here. I want a DI proven coach. If I hired someone to run a big excavator I would hire a guy that has been running mini excavators. (I'm a construction boss.) I would never hire someone unproven. Done it before and it has only worked in certain applications. If I've got 7 resumes sitting in front of me I'm gonna take the most experienced person at that particular level.

Where are you going to find a proven D1 head coach to come here for $185K? Bobby? Fired from UNLV after 15 wins in 5 seasons. Wulff? Left Eastern a mess, fired from Wazzu. Pease? Never a HC. Hawkins? Proven that he couldn't win w/out Petersen at two diff stops. Who's left?

New here. Glad to see you brought up Hawkins. Don't want to get in to an argument about the Peterson thing, but I know Dan personally and have been communicating with him daily, and I can tell you that he very much wanted/wants to coach the Griz. I'm just answering to the money part of your statement. He was all in on the Griz. You'd have to decide whether or not for yourself if he could succeed at the FCS level. If it's about the assistants, then all he has to do is make another great hire. Fact is, he's the absolute most qualified Head Coach candidate, and he wanted the job.

 

[GrizzlyClaw]

I don't post much but I have a good feeling about this hire. I don't believe this is just a stepping stone for Stitt. Anyone who thinks we could afford Pease or any FBS coach or coordinator is not looking at their salaries. And if you think Pease wouldn't use this as a stepping stone, you're just crazy. 15 years experience and a lot of respect from coaches everywhere. As far as Northern Colorado not hiring him, I don't know the details but are we sure he wanted that job. We need an offensive minded guy no matter what! This may be our "best" shot at getting a top notch offensive guy to take the Grizzlies into the future.

Just my take on all this madness!!

 

[MrTitleist]

New here. Glad to see you brought up Hawkins. Don't want to get in to an argument about the Peterson thing, but I know Dan personally and have been communicating with him daily, and I can tell you that he very much wanted/wants to coach the Griz. I'm just answering to the money part of your statement. He was all in on the Griz. You'd have to decide whether or not for yourself if he could succeed at the FCS level. If it's about the assistants, then all he has to do is make another great hire. Fact is, he's the absolute most qualified Head Coach candidate, and he wanted the job.

Sorry Mr Hawkins, but I don't think you're a good fit at Montana. After he lost Petersen I'm not sure he ever won another game, did he? That pony's broken.

 

[IdaGriz01]

New here. Glad to see you brought up Hawkins. Don't want to get in to an argument about the Peterson thing, but I know Dan personally and have been communicating with him daily, and I can tell you that he very much wanted/wants to coach the Griz. I'm just answering to the money part of your statement. He was all in on the Griz. You'd have to decide whether or not for yourself if he could succeed at the FCS level. If it's about the assistants, then all he has to do is make another great hire. Fact is, he's the absolute most qualified Head Coach candidate, and he wanted the job.

Sorry Mr Hawkins, but I don't think you're a good fit at Montana. After he lost Petersen I'm not sure he ever won another game, did he? That pony's broken.

Now now, Danny boy was really bad at Colorado, but he did win some games there.They even went to a bowl game -- which they lost.

I do agree it would be a bad idea for UM to hire him. Fortunately, it does no seem like he was ever even considered (except here on eGriz).

 

[grizindabox]

New here. Glad to see you brought up Hawkins. Don't want to get in to an argument about the Peterson thing, but I know Dan personally and have been communicating with him daily, and I can tell you that he very much wanted/wants to coach the Griz. I'm just answering to the money part of your statement. He was all in on the Griz. You'd have to decide whether or not for yourself if he could succeed at the FCS level. If it's about the assistants, then all he has to do is make another great hire. Fact is, he's the absolute most qualified Head Coach candidate, and he wanted the job.

Sorry Mr Hawkins, but I don't think you're a good fit at Montana. After he lost Petersen I'm not sure he ever won another game, did he? That pony's broken.

Now now, Danny boy was really bad at Colorado, but he did win some games there.They even went to a bowl game -- which they lost.

I do agree it would be a bad idea for UM to hire him. Fortunately, it does no seem like he was ever even considered (except here on eGriz).

What was his record against Montana St. /drops mic

 

[Umista]

I want Stitt. If I can't get him I will take Pease.



OOPS....I just found out I get the guy Haslam brings to the table next week.

 

[kemajic]

Heard from more than one source that three candidates remain. They may be negotiating with one, suggesting Stitt as a backup. If the decision were already made for Stitt, you'd think they would be announcing it and getting on with it.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Heard from more than one source that three candidates remain. They may be negotiating with one, suggesting Stitt as a backup. If the decision were already made for Stitt, you'd think they would be announcing it and getting on with it.

Negotiating of whom to retain from the current coaching staff so as not to lose what verbal commitments already proffered? That may be a going concern these days.