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Bob Green out as Tech coach

By Bill Foley of The Montana Standard mtstandard.com | Posted: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:15 am | (9) Comments

Bob Green is retiring after 24 years as head coach of the Montana Tech football team, according to a source close to the team.

The school has called a 3 p.m. press conference at the Montana Tech Copper Lounge to announce the move.

Green told his players and assistant coaches about the decision Monday evening.

Green’s retiring comes just days after Montana Tech closed out a disappointing 2010 season with a 27-21 win over Montana Western in Dillon.

The move also comes as a surprise.

“Something happened today,” a source close to the team said Monday. “Yesterday was business as usual.”

The source wished to remain anonymous because he didn’t have authority to announce the decision.

When reached Monday night, Green said he couldn’t comment until the press conference.

Montana Tech athletic director Joe McClafferty didn’t return a message seeking comment Monday night.

Green, 62, gave no indication he was retiring before or immediately following the season finale.

When meeting with The Montana Standard last Wednesday, Green spoke of plans to meet with each player — the graduating seniors and players returning in 2011 — in the next two weeks before hitting the recruiting trail.

A late-season four-game losing streak put the Orediggers at 5-6 overall and at 5-5 in a tie for third place in the Frontier Conference.

The Orediggers haven’t made the playoffs since the 2005 season, when the team went on the road to beat Azusa Pacific in the first round. Tech lost to Carroll College in Helena the next week.

Since joining the Orediggers before the 1987 season, Green has compiled a record of 140-116-1.

Under Green’s watch, the Orediggers placed second, tied for first or outright won the Frontier Conference 16 times. The Orediggers played for the NAIA national championship after winning the Frontier Conference title in 1996.

Green, a former Marine and Vietnam veteran, also produced 15 first-team All-Americans, including defensive end Stephan Burns in 2009.

The Orediggers have 23 outgoing seniors on this year’s team. All 23 are from Montana and on pace to graduate.

Green, a Nebraska native, played defensive back for four years (1972-75) at the university of Nebraska-Kearney, where he earned a bachelor’s degree and served as an assistant coach following his senior year.

Before taking over at Tech, Green spent five seasons at Northwest Missouri State, where he split time coaching running backs and defensive backs as well as serving as defensive coordinator.

Green led high school programs in Minatare and Broken Bow, Neb. He also coached briefly as an assistant at the University of Northern Colorado.
 
This guy was a classic.. I never saw his program, but he seems like a stand-up guy and a living quote machine.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikNOLkPc50[/youtube]
 
Why are MT taxpayers paying for intercollegiate football & any sport, for that matter, at Havre, Dillon, Butte, & Billings? These should all be community colleges w/o intercollegiate sports. The MT higher ed. system is a mess, yet taxpayers run around calling for more accountability, etc., in state government.
Well, here's one way of accounting to the taxpayers: Get rid of 4 year programs at those 4 schools.

UM & MSU should be the only 4 year schools. "Oh, gawd!" Goes up the cry. "You an idjut." (I've been called that for such a proposal in a different medium.) Taxpayers are hypocrites. Cut state spending, but not IMBY.
 
David2 said:
Why are MT taxpayers paying for intercollegiate football & any sport, for that matter, at Havre, Dillon, Butte, & Billings? These should all be community colleges w/o intercollegiate sports. The MT higher ed. system is a mess, yet taxpayers run around calling for more accountability, etc., in state government.
Well, here's one way of accounting to the taxpayers: Get rid of 4 year programs at those 4 schools.

UM & MSU should be the only 4 year schools. "Oh, gawd!" Goes up the cry. "You an idjut." (I've been called that for such a proposal in a different medium.) Taxpayers are hypocrites. Cut state spending, but not IMBY.

And to think. We had to wait until 12:50 in the morning for that post.

Welcome to Montana David2. If it isn't comfortable for you here, there are several exits.
 
This issue has been discussed ad infinitum. There was a blue ribbon commission study of the topic around 20 years ago. While it may well be a truism that Montana "can't afford" all these four- year schools, they are not going to go away. Affiliating all the smaller schools with either UM or MSU, as was done about a decade ago, is as close as you are going to get. And, I'll be honest, I think the smaller schools definitely serve a purpose, besides which my daughter got her master's at Tech in a discipline for which she would otherwise have had to go out of state.
 
David2 said:
Why are MT taxpayers paying for intercollegiate football & any sport, for that matter, at Havre, Dillon, Butte, & Billings? These should all be community colleges w/o intercollegiate sports. The MT higher ed. system is a mess, yet taxpayers run around calling for more accountability, etc., in state government.
Well, here's one way of accounting to the taxpayers: Get rid of 4 year programs at those 4 schools.

UM & MSU should be the only 4 year schools. "Oh, gawd!" Goes up the cry. "You an idjut." (I've been called that for such a proposal in a different medium.) Taxpayers are hypocrites. Cut state spending, but not IMBY.

Cutting sports from those schools also takes students from those schools. I think if you put some thought to what you are saying, the unintended consequences would be a far bigger problem.
 
loyalgriz said:
David2 said:
Why are MT taxpayers paying for intercollegiate football & any sport, for that matter, at Havre, Dillon, Butte, & Billings? These should all be community colleges w/o intercollegiate sports. The MT higher ed. system is a mess, yet taxpayers run around calling for more accountability, etc., in state government.
Well, here's one way of accounting to the taxpayers: Get rid of 4 year programs at those 4 schools.

UM & MSU should be the only 4 year schools. "Oh, gawd!" Goes up the cry. "You an idjut." (I've been called that for such a proposal in a different medium.) Taxpayers are hypocrites. Cut state spending, but not IMBY.

Cutting sports from those schools also takes students from those schools. I think if you put some thought to what you are saying, the unintended consequences would be a far bigger problem.

Look, streamlining the MT higher ed. system is long overdue. Before this legislature considers cutting anything in the higher ed. budget, it ought to look at those expensive, unnecessary upper division & graduate courses at Havre, Butte, Billings, & Dillon. There's no reason mining degrees should be awarded any longer by MT Tech. Bozeman is the best place for them, esp. as mining in MT is out east. MSU is already an engineering school & it would be natural for MSU to take over MT Tech's mining programs, degrees, etc. The other 3 schools simply duplicate programs at UM & MSU. THERE IS SIMPLY NO NEED FOR THOSE PROGRAMS AT THOSE SCHOOLS. I'm talking about upper division & graduate programs. And, I'm talking only about publicly funded schools.

Yeah, a lot of local pride goes down the tubes, but there has to be a choice when it comes to cost cutting, if indeed that's where the legislature is, esp. with Republicans now in control of the legislature. It's time to put up or shut up. You can't have your cake & eat it too. Besides, the future of this state is in the community colleges (witness Flathead Valley Community College & its contribution to that community). KALISPELL DOESN'T NEED A 4 YEAR SCHOOL. Neither do Havre, Butte, Billings, & Dillon.

Athletics (football, esp.) must not be a consideration, at all. Not when it comes to making decisions re: cost cutting in MT higher ed. No, there has to be a major shakeup in the MT higher ed. system, as well as cost cutting, but eliminating upper division and graduate programs at those schools will do much to reduce higher ed. expenses while preserving programs at UM and MSU.
 
David2 said:
There's no reason mining degrees should be awarded any longer by MT Tech. Bozeman is the best place for them, esp. as mining in MT is out east. MSU is already an engineering school & it would be natural for MSU to take over MT Tech's mining programs, degrees, etc.

Why do you continue to comment on things that you obviously know nothing about? Clearly, you have no clue about mining in Montana based on that incredibly misinformed statement above.

Do you even know what Montana "Tech" is short for?

There are more mining operations within 80 miles of Butte than in the entire eastern two-thirds of the state. (It is 85 miles to Bozeman, so I purposely left that out since you seem to think that they are some mining mecca.)

Also, understand that some of the best mining and petroleum engineering professors in the country live and teach in Butte. Should the state also uproot them? There is a reason why Montana Tech is internationally recognized as one of the top Petroleum, Mining, and Environmental Engineering schools in the world. It ain't because it is in Bozeman.

Do you realize that history has given Butte the largest Superfund clean-up site in the nation? It was also one of the first. So, there are a few Environmental Engineers there. Quite a few more than in other parts of Montana.

Do you know why they called Butte "The Richest Hill on Earth"? Do you know why it was one of the largest cities west of the Mississippi in its heyday?

Since you have no clue as to why people on eGriz have such a hard time with your posts, it is because you write with such incredible "authority" about subjects that you have no experience, expertise, or even basic information about. Yet, you feel this strong urge to post stuff that you clearly pull out of your ass.

Seriously, first get a f-ing clue. Then step away from the keyboard. Only write about things you clearly know about in the future.

Read up: http://www.mtech.edu/, but please don't comment anymore about it.
 
TheBud said:
David2 said:
There's no reason mining degrees should be awarded any longer by MT Tech. Bozeman is the best place for them, esp. as mining in MT is out east. MSU is already an engineering school & it would be natural for MSU to take over MT Tech's mining programs, degrees, etc.

Why do you continue to comment on things that you obviously know nothing about? Clearly, you have no clue about mining in Montana based on that incredibly misinformed statement above. Do you even know what Montana "Tech" is short for?

There are more mining operations within 80 miles of Butte than in the entire eastern two-thirds of the state. (It is 85 miles to Bozeman, so I purposely left that out since you seem to think that they are some mining mecca.)

Also, understand that some of the best mining and petroleum engineering professors in the country live and teach in Butte. Should the state also uproot them? There is a reason why Montana Tech is internationally recognized as one of the top Petroleum, Mining, and Environmental Engineering schools in the world. It ain't because it is in Bozeman.

Do you realize that history has given Butte the largest Superfund clean-up site in the nation? It was also one of the first. So, there are a few Environmental Engineers there. Quite a few more than in other parts of Montana. Do you know why they called Butte "The Richest Hill on Earth"? Do you know why it was one of the largest cities west of the Mississippi in its heyday?

Since you have no clue as to why people on eGriz have such a hard time with your posts, it is because you write with such incredible "authority" about subjects that you have no experience, expertise, or even basic information about. Yet, you feel this strong urge to post stuff that you clearly pull out of your ass.

Seriously, first get a f-ing clue. Then step away from the keyboard. Only write about things you clearly know about in the future.

Read up: http://www.mtech.edu/, but please don't comment anymore about it.

There are so many things I could comment on in this post & additional thoughts I have, but I'll let it go.I knew I'd get this kind of reaction, esp. those so enamored of MT Tech. I'm not saying MT Tech, et al. are BAD schools. It's a matter of money, if I understand MT taxpayers correctly, who want to cut state expenses. This is a way to cut expenses in MT higher ed. At some point, nostalgia & tradition must go out the window if money is the issue & it always is, esp. now.

It gets back to, "Cut government spending on the other guy, but not on me." G'bye. 8-)
 
So, what does that have to do with this statement?
David2 said:
...as mining in MT is out east.

In other words, you have no clue what you are talking about. How can you make spending/cutting decisions in MT Higher Ed, if you have no clue about the basics.

Hello McFly! Hello!

Certainly, there are areas to cut spending on Higher Ed, including redundant programs or facilities. However, thank God you are not one of the decision makers.

Please let all of us know if you ever decide to run for any office so that we don't make the mistake of letting you into a decision making position of what to do with our taxpayer dollars.
 
TheBud said:
So, what does that have to do with this statement?
David2 said:
...as mining in MT is out east.

In other words, you have no clue what you are talking about. How can you make spending/cutting decisions in MT Higher Ed, if you have no clue about the basics.

Hello McFly! Hello!

Certainly, there are areas to cut spending on Higher Ed, including redundant programs or facilities. However, thank God you are not one of the decision makers.

Please let all of us know if you ever decide to run for any office so that we don't make the mistake of letting you into a decision making position of what to do with our taxpayer dollars.


He's a liberal. He feels perfectly justified in telling others how to live their lives.
 
Hey, what is your guys' favorite Bob Green quote? The coach was a walking soundbite. My personal favorite was:

:"Well, that preseason poll is a lot like a Playboy magazine. You give it a quick look and then you throw it in the trash."

Anybody else?
 
About a big win: " It's like going to the prom with the prettiest girl in school and then finding out her father owns a liquor store."

Oh and D2, about mining in MT, you are full of shit.
 

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