My posts in that thread, or the first ones:
Yes not on the same level, ha. Griz have been playing better and beaten 2 ranked teams in a row on the road. Cats haven't beaten a team with a winning record (I don't see this as a big deal, but people liked to throw that at the Griz last season). Griz just shut down the top ranked runner in the conference, holding him to 41 yards, and currently leads the conference in stopping the run. If Griz can't defend against MSU much better this year than last, then the Cats will run over the Griz again. But new DC for Griz who will presumably use a different scheme. Much of the D knows the mistakes they made last year and how good the Cat running game is. And, note that the Griz clobbered the no. 3 ranked Cats the prior year.
Griz have new D coordinator. Old one retired. Will have a different scheme this year. The Cats and Vigen didn't know what to do with the UM 3-3-5 and 2021, and then changed things for 2022 and played like UM didn't even have a defense. In 2021, the Cats had 84 yards on their last drive in the last 5 minutes to get the score to 29-10. So, until then, the Cats had had 118 yards of total offense. Again, the Cats had been ranked no. 3 at the time in 2021 and went on to the national championship game; and obviously had a very good team.
Are you sticking with this view now? I thought only 1 player walked off the field too early during the play at NAU. The coaches got on him for it. His injury has improved. Some on egriz were saying Idaho was his best game of the year, or ever. He seems to have turned things around. Hauck says he likes this team, and its talent. He has also said, in prior weeks, that this year's team has not been as good as last year's team was at the same point. UM has just beaten 2 ranked teams in a row. Griz are now top 10. UM would have to go backwards not to at least get into the playoffs now.
So, McKay gave up 29 points and 2 TD's? And McKay held Ifanse to 50 yards on 19 carries, for a 2.6 average? McKay caused Leighton's fumble, when I assume McKay wasn't on the field? McKay threw no interceptions. UM threw 2. Mellott was 7-27 rushing. UM was up 7-0 before McKay got on field.
I will stick with this: The Griz clobbered the Cats in that game, and the Cats clobbered the Griz in 2022.
Griz have gotten an injured d-lineman back. I was told he's the 2d best d-lineman on team. Sure, the main scheme is the same this year, but it will be altered to better fit defending against the Cats this year. And, again, the returning Griz players all know the mistakes they individually made last year, and there were many. Hauck has admitted that the particularly defensive game plan wasn't right last year. I suppose the game may have to be played to find out what's going to happen.
I was not rehashing the game. I was responding to posters blaming the loss on McKay. Each of the big things you mentioned is part of football and part of clobbering. FG’s count. Defensive plays count. Long TD’s count. Luck counts.
Okay, even if what you said is true, the next game is in Missoula. UM has a new DC and will have a better gameplay for the game. UM is setting attendance records this season, and the crowd is back to being its old loud self. The Griz seem to be improving each week and perhaps getting on a roll. Cats have played only 1 good team, and gotten beat. A good or better comparison may be how each of the teams plays SS.
No, I did no such thing. I countered some arguments that the Griz only won in 2021 because McKay was bad. I pointed out that that absolutely was not true. I have said nothing about the Griz winning this year.
Is your argument that if McKay had played better, if the Cats had not given up a 75 yard TD, if the Cats had not called a dumb ST play and executed it poorly, and the Cats had not given up 5 FG's, the game would have been closer?
If so, then I would make the argument that if the Griz hadn't given up four 60 plus TD runs to NDSU last year in the playoffs, the game would have been closer.
Yes, of course. Also aware that UM was running that D in 2021 when UM clobbered the Cats. 29-10 (with Cats getting their only TD in the last few mints of the game), and gaining only 96 on the ground in 41 carries, for a 2.3 average per carry. Are you aware of those things?
UM will have a different game plan. I don't know what it will be, nor would I be able to do a game plan. That's what the DC and coaches do, and will do.
UM D will have to be more disciplined, will have better keys, will have to have better eyes, will need to avoid taking half steps in the wrong direction at the start of plays and going for fakes., etc. In 2022, the UM D, and various players, made a huge number of mistakes. The mistakes started on the first play when a very good linebacker stepped briefly inside, and the play went outside. And this was often the case. Hauck said the Griz D didn't have the right game plan and scheme, and it would be different this year. I see that MSU got 52 yards rushing for 1.5 per carry against SDSU today. That doesn't seem indicate that the Cat running game can't be stopped.
The relevance is that MSU's all-world running game can be stopped. Why is it so hard for you to provide the stat?
Actually, the Griz are going to beat the Cats this season, assuming UM doesn't lose it's starting qb again this year. I'm trying to help prepare my Cat friends, so they don't start jumping off ledges next month.