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Bigsky possible Playoff Teams (revised)

kemajic said:
... It's much, much simpler than that. Griz are not in with a loss at MSU. Period. Nor should they be, they would not have a win against a team with a winning record. Win brings an unseeded entry with a first round play-in likely at home. They will beat MSU.
Totally agree.

Like alabamaG, I went through the matchups coming next weekend (his list was a huge help). Of course, I was not looking for "preferred" scenarios. As you would expect, the CAA and MVFC will suck up a lot of bids, no matter how the specific wins and losses work out. As one example, the CAA could easily have four teams with (8-3), or better records, plus one or more (7-4) bubble teams. The SoCon could also be a player. I won't go into the details, but I found credible combinations for 13 at-large bids ... a total of 24 with the auto-bids. Beyond that, I came up with nine "bubble" teams with (7-4) records. Sure, that's all (educated) guesswork, but I doubt that it's too far off.

The Griz at (7-4) would be up against too many teams that have signature wins ... even wins or near-misses against FBS opponents. Being ranked all year – and only losing to ranked teams – might cut them some slack, but I sure wouldn't want to count on it.
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
What if Idaho loses to ISU?


Bahahahahahahahhahahhaha!!!!

ISU has ONE W on the entire season.. and that's a narrow victory over a horrible, non-scholarship squad.


And yes, weak montana escaped that same SCARY ISU team by 1 score.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Just asking the hypothetical. You should head back over to the Kitty board, as it has become very apparent that you have soured on the Griz.
 
I think 6 Big Sky teams will go if Davis wins. I don't see Deleware being put in over Idaho/UC Davis. If Davis loses they are out
 
Hurdlingriz said:
I think 6 Big Sky teams will go if Davis wins. I don't see Deleware being put in over Idaho/UC Davis. If Davis loses they are out

I think the odds of 6 BSC are pretty slim. Both Davis and Idaho get in before the Griz if all end with 7 wins.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hurdlingriz said:
I think 6 Big Sky teams will go if Davis wins. I don't see Deleware being put in over Idaho/UC Davis. If Davis loses they are out

I think the odds of 6 BSC are pretty slim. Both Davis and Idaho get in before the Griz if all end with 7 wins.

I just don't see any others that qualify, SELA maybe, Delaware, Elon. If you watch CAA games vs Big Sky and put them in over the Big Sky, you shouldn't be involved in football
 
Hurdlingriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I think the odds of 6 BSC are pretty slim. Both Davis and Idaho get in before the Griz if all end with 7 wins.

I just don't see any others that qualify, SELA maybe, Delaware, Elon. If you watch CAA games vs Big Sky and put them in over the Big Sky, you shouldn't be involved in football

They have a propensity of rewarding a team that places second or third with more wins over a 7 win fifth or sixth place team. Sometimes wins matter, even if not as difficult. If you are that sixth BSC team, don't be surprised if you are left out.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Hurdlingriz said:
I just don't see any others that qualify, SELA maybe, Delaware, Elon. If you watch CAA games vs Big Sky and put them in over the Big Sky, you shouldn't be involved in football

They have a propensity of rewarding a team that places second or third with more wins over a 7 win fifth or sixth place team. Sometimes wins matter, even if not as difficult. If you are that sixth BSC team, don't be surprised if you are left out.

Won't say you are wrong but I'm seeing 7 win CAA teams as the competitors for those last spots. Deleware is at 6, Elon 7, Mercer will have only 7 unless they beat Samford.
 
Hurdlingriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
They have a propensity of rewarding a team that places second or third with more wins over a 7 win fifth or sixth place team. Sometimes wins matter, even if not as difficult. If you are that sixth BSC team, don't be surprised if you are left out.

Won't say you are wrong but I'm seeing 7 win CAA teams as the competitors for those last spots. Deleware is at 6, Elon 7, Mercer will have only 7 unless they beat Samford.

It just really depends on what the bubble looks like at the end of Saturday. But there is nothing about 7 wins that guarantees the Griz get into the playoffs.
 
kemajic said:
grizeyes said:
SS, Weber, cat scat are in, win or lose.
Spuds lose, they are out at 6-5
UCD lose, they are out at 6-5
If above happens, Griz are in, win or lose at 8-3 or 7-4

Now, IF UCD wins, Idaho wins and Griz lose, I think we're out
Likely scenario, SS wins, UCD out. Idaho wins, they are in. Griz win, they are in. Griz lose, they take five - SS, Weber, Griz, spuds and some cat scat. Of course, this is looking through my maroon glasses! Just win, make it easy!

Go Griz!
It's much, much simpler than that. Griz are not in with a loss at MSU. Period. Nor should they be, they would not have a win against a team with a winning record. Win brings an unseeded entry with a first round play-in likely at home. They will beat MSU.

If UCD and Idaho both lose, doubtful, but if the do, neither will have seven wins. Big Sky only takes three teams then, with a 7-4 Griz team out? Long shot but as you said, just win and make it easy. !

Go Griz!
 
I don't see the BSC getting 6 teams in. 5 would be great, but that is a long shot as well. 4 is the most likey, with 3 of them being seeds.

Although a long shot, it isn't out of the realm of possibility for ISU to beat UI in Poky.

Also, Sac is very beatable and Davis is very capable of doing it.

I see the game between UM and MSU as a toss up. A strong D against a strong O.

UM must win to have any chance of making the playoffs.

Weber's game at NAU is for a seed. Weber should win, but strange things often happen in Flagstaff. NAU has nothing to gain or lose. Who knows how they might respond?
 
oldrunner said:
I don't see the BSC getting 6 teams in. 5 would be great, but that is a long shot as well. 4 is the most likey, with 3 of them being seeds.

Although a long shot, it isn't out of the realm of possibility for ISU to beat UI in Poky.

Also, Sac is very beatable and Davis is very capable of doing it.

I see the game between UM and MSU as a toss up. A strong D against a strong O.

UM must win to have any chance of making the playoffs.

Weber's game at NAU is for a seed. Weber should win, but strange things often happen in Flagstaff. NAU has nothing to gain or lose. Who knows how they might respond?

I think the BSC will get 5, the bubble just isn't large enough to push that 5th BSC off.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
oldrunner said:
I don't see the BSC getting 6 teams in. 5 would be great, but that is a long shot as well. 4 is the most likey, with 3 of them being seeds.

Although a long shot, it isn't out of the realm of possibility for ISU to beat UI in Poky.

Also, Sac is very beatable and Davis is very capable of doing it.

I see the game between UM and MSU as a toss up. A strong D against a strong O.

UM must win to have any chance of making the playoffs.

Weber's game at NAU is for a seed. Weber should win, but strange things often happen in Flagstaff. NAU has nothing to gain or lose. Who knows how they might respond?

I think the BSC will get 5, the bubble just isn't large enough to push that 5th BSC off.
There are quite a few possible 8-3 teams around the country this year. Many of them are in that bubble area. There are going to be some really good 7-4 teams left out.
 
oldrunner said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I think the BSC will get 5, the bubble just isn't large enough to push that 5th BSC off.
There are quite a few possible 8-3 teams around the country this year. Many of them are in that bubble area. There are going to be some really good 7-4 teams left out.

But most those 8 win teams won't push a fifth 7 win BSC team out. BSC SOS is too strong.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
oldrunner said:
There are quite a few possible 8-3 teams around the country this year. Many of them are in that bubble area. There are going to be some really good 7-4 teams left out.

But most those 8 win teams won't push a fifth 7 win BSC team out. BSC SOS is too strong.
Good point, and logical to us. However, there are a lot politics involved in the selection and seesding process. That is why UM has a shot even if they lose. UM has a national reputation that helps.
 
Paytonlives said:
In a very strange possibility

Idaho beats ISU
Montana Beats kittens
Davis beat Sac
Weber beat NAU

Sac 10-1
Kittens 9-2
Weber 9-2
Griz 8-3
Idaho 7-4
Davis 7-4

You could make an argument that bigsky gets 6 teams
Griz ended season by beating #4, 3 loses by total of 17 points without QB1
Davis ended Season by beating #2, winning 6 straight, losing to South Dakota State by 2
Idaho has 2 FBS loses
Weber, kittens and Sac have 9 or 10 wins

I agree. Everyone knows there are really only three conferences that count now, the BSC, MVC and SoCon (sort of) honestly there are REALLY only two.

The OVC, Big South, Patriot, Pioneer, Southland, ASUN/WAC, Northeast are all trash now.

Arguably, the CAA and SoCon are down, but Richmond, Nova and Furman keep them somewhat relevant.
 
Hurdlingriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I think the odds of 6 BSC are pretty slim. Both Davis and Idaho get in before the Griz if all end with 7 wins.

I just don't see any others that qualify, SELA maybe, Delaware, Elon. If you watch CAA games vs Big Sky and put them in over the Big Sky, you shouldn't be involved in football

I would agree w that, but too many East Coast folks with a say in this matter apparently go to bed early and don’t have a clue about the BSC.
 
GrizGuy said:
Hurdlingriz said:
I just don't see any others that qualify, SELA maybe, Delaware, Elon. If you watch CAA games vs Big Sky and put them in over the Big Sky, you shouldn't be involved in football
I would agree w that, but too many East Coast folks with a say in this matter apparently go to bed early and don’t have a clue about the BSC.
Following the poll votes as a group (of course, we don't know who votes how), I'd have to agree. Midwest and west pollsters pay some attention to the BSC, but not ao much for pollsters east of that. The trouble is, the CAA will get a nice batch of bids ... and then get to play cupcakes from the many available relatively close to them. That will, of course, make them look good ... with first-round wins.

However. I swear, watching some of those teams (including some in the CAA) play, you think the broadcast is in slow motion. Yes, they have some athletes (some with some speed), but the overall team speed just isn't there. Not a knock on the coaches ... they just do not have the material to work with.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
GrizGuy said:
I would agree w that, but too many East Coast folks with a say in this matter apparently go to bed early and don’t have a clue about the BSC.
Following the poll votes as a group (of course, we don't know who votes how), I'd have to agree. Midwest and west pollsters pay some attention to the BSC, but not ao much for pollsters east of that. The trouble is, the CAA will get a nice batch of bids ... and then get to play cupcakes from the many available relatively close to them. That will, of course, make them look good ... with first-round wins.

However. I swear, watching some of those teams (including some in the CAA) play, you think the broadcast is in slow motion. Yes, they have some athletes (some with some speed), but the overall team speed just isn't there. Not a knock on the coaches ... they just do not have the material to work with.

I think this is why I actually feel pretty good about the Griz this year, regardless of what happens on Saturday. This team just sorta "feels" like a team that will do just fine on the road. They just seem like the sorta team that can go open a can of whoopass on a lot of those teams.
 
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