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Big Sky Officiating Thread

EverettGriz said:
Technically I'd say you're correct, and he should work top shoulder. The problem is, he's being held by the tackle's right hand, and can't get outside the tackle's shoulder. That's when he tries to duck inside. It's a hold, but likely not egregious enough to call.

But that just solidifies Rules' point. What we need is consistency. And if that's not a hold here, it's not a hold all game. And that's not the officiating we got.
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Thank you! FINALLY someone who gets it and understands all this!
 
EverettGriz said:
Technically I'd say you're correct, and he should work top shoulder. The problem is, he's being held by the tackle's right hand, and can't get outside the tackle's shoulder. That's when he tries to duck inside. It's a hold, but likely not egregious enough to call.

But that just solidifies Rules' point. What we need is consistency. And if that's not a hold here, it's not a hold all game. And that's not the officiating we got.
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I have to disagree because to me
it looks like a hold from the still because our end went inside, and that’s the exact frame the still represents. I wouldn’t want that call called on our tackles.

Absolutely correct and I agree with you about consistency. That’s always been my pet peeve whether terrible, good or in-between just be consistent.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
So rule, how many inconsistent calls were there? Two, three? Funny thing is, no matter how consistent they try to be, there will be some calls that seem to trend away from the mean.
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Dude, get me paid big $$$ and additional video that the programs use, I'd gladly break it all down. I'd actually love that job! Unfortunately, my current job pays the mortgage and bills. I don't have the time to do it as is. Give me proper pay, benefits, and resources and I'm ALL IN!
 
mtgrizrule said:
How can you not see a low block to Lamson's backside? It's clear as day. Is it minor, yes. So was our called back TD!

Based on what the crew had already established precedence on, neither should have been called. Unfortunately, some were, some weren't.

F this, apparently most you don't care that officiating needs improved consistency.

I'll look forward to yet another year of terribly inconsistent officiating and hard working teams getting short changed by the officiating.

At least I'm trying to improve this crap with concrete examples and even solutions. Meanwhile, rather than addressing an ongoing problem, the messenger is being shot! I don't get, how every Big Sky fan base collectively complains about officiating, yet accepts mediocrity, then complains further to those trying to improve the problems? Wtf?
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I don't think it's illegal to cut block, is it?
 
406football said:
I have to disagree because to me
it looks like a hold from the still because our end went inside, and that’s the exact frame the still represents. I wouldn’t want that call called on our tackles.

Absolutely correct and I agree with you about consistency. That’s always been my pet peeve whether terrible, good or in-between just be consistent.
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Thank you
We're in the minority.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Dude, get me paid big $$$ and additional video that the programs use, I'd gladly break it all down. I'd actually love that job! Unfortunately, my current job pays the mortgage and bills. I don't have the time to do it as is. Give me proper pay, benefits, and resources and I'm ALL IN!
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You don't think this happens?
 
mtgrizrule said:
Thank you
We're in the minority.
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In my opinion and that’s not worth much, but the issue is more human than anything. Each conference has set crews but each individual from those crews see the game differently from play to play. Just like this board we all see the game and program differently and from different perspectives. I think they try to be as consistent as possible by keeping the same crews together, but most calls aren’t reviewable and subjected to human error. I think they do a pretty good job for the most part.
 
mtgrizrule said:
I see this is a hot topic and rightfully so.
This subject needs it's own thread for comments, analysis, videos, suggestions, etc. It's NOT intended for trash talking, name calling, etc.

Unfortunately, the facts are, Big Sky officiating has been terribly inconsistent for to many years. All the Big Sky fan bases have been complaining a lot about it.

In an effort to start somewhere to hopefully respectfully discuss and bring attention to it, let's get going here. I'm encouraging fans of all Big Sky fan bases to partake respectfully.

Let me introduce the 1st video. It's a short video of Lamson's TD run. I suggest pausing the video, then advancing it by dragging the slide bar. Pay close attention from 2 seconds to 4 seconds.

How many possible minor penalties do you see? I saw hints of a below the waist block, possible holding, and possible block in the back. Feel free to add to it.

Also please add more videos to this thread with your observations. I encourage videos and discussions from ALL Big Sky fan bases.

Do you see just as minor possible penalties on this equal to or worse than the hold called on Schaefer?

Once the officials estsblish what and how they're officiating, they need to STICK with it! No need to expect perfection, just consistency for both teams in all games.


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I'm sure that Hoops will come on here and have a lot more to say here too, that's coming like death and taxes.

I don't believe there is a penalty for a block in the back at the line of scrimmage, so that is not going to draw a penalty on this play unless it's beyond the line. I also believe that a block below the waist at the line can be legal, what is not legal is a chop block, where a player is engaged with another blocker and a second comes in and makes contact low because this is where a lot of linemen get lower leg and ankle injuries.

I didn't feel there were a lot of holding either way, and I Will admit that I felt there were many that weren't called on bozeman, and I tend not to watch the line play as much when our offense is on the field.
 
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