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Big Sky establishes serious misconduct rule
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EverettGriz said:
There are many crimes that don't involve corruption or moral turpitude. That is a very limited category. Not true with teaching, I don't believe.
Again, let's hear about all of the "professional industries" in which a felony "statutorily bars" someone.
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think. And besides, here's proof.
Can a Felon Become a Lawyer?
The short answer is yes! A convicted felon can become licensed to practice law, though not in all states. As of 2015, only three states and one territory outright ban convicted felons from ever becoming lawyers: Kansas, Mississippi, Texas, and the Northern Mariana Islands. This information was taken from pages 16-17 of the National Conference of Bar Examiner's Comprehensive Guide to Bar Admission Requirements 2015.
It's probably quite safe to say that we've all made mistakes in our lives and have done things we regret. Though not all of us are convicted felons, a good many in the population have at least some form of criminal record. The point is this: you are not as alone as you think.
You Too Can Be a Lawyer -- Someday
If you've been convicted with a felony conviction, don't dismiss becoming an attorney. In fact, the overwhelming majority of jurisdictions in the United States have a rather forgiving attitude when it comes to criminal backgrounds.
If you have no intention of ever changing your criminal path, then becoming an attorney is not a serious goal for you. But if you really want to remain on the right side of the law going forward, you're already halfway there. Some jurisdictions require a certain passage of time, while others also require a demonstration of redemption. But there's one thing that you must always be wary of -- looking like a liar."
Jeez, you guys just make up crap. Do you not know how to even Google?
Good god. You'll argue about anything.
You asked if there are careers where people are barred from working if they've committed a felony. Hell, you can be barred from being an attorney for many misdemeanors. But yes, you can likely chase ambulances if you've committed a felony in the past. But would your firm hire someone with one? I direct many outside counsels, and I can ASSURE you not a one of them has a felony.
And if you believe you can be an educator, a Pyschologist, a family counselor or even a Big Brother with an assault felony, I do not want you anywhere NEAR children.
You asked if there are careers where people are barred from working if they've committed a felony. Hell, you can be barred from being an attorney for many misdemeanors. But yes, you can likely chase ambulances if you've committed a felony in the past. But would your firm hire someone with one? I direct many outside counsels, and I can ASSURE you not a one of them has a felony.
And if you believe you can be an educator, a Pyschologist, a family counselor or even a Big Brother with an assault felony, I do not want you anywhere NEAR children.
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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EverettGriz said:
I believe it's why he lives on this website. I really believe he plays Bruce Springsteen's "Glory Days" continually on the drive between here and Flathead Lake and he'd actually want some of these people anywhere near children...or thinking we'd let somebody like those the military exclude anywhere near us when the crap hits the fan. CTE is becoming more apparent with each hatefilled, egotistical post.
EverettGriz said:
Good god, I am not arguing about anything. You made a statement. I asked your for examples. You made up a bunch of stuff that was mostly wrong. You seem to provide incorrect information on a consistent basis.
You made a bold and incorrect statement. I called you on it. And you couldn't back it up. Why don't you just do a bit of research before you post your bold and incorrect statements?
Here's your statement. Can you cite some "statutes" for us? Note that you said felony; you didn't say particular felonies.
There are a number of professional industries in which people are statutorily barred if they have a felony conviction (or plead no contest), even if they "have done their time".
To be clear, please cite that "statutes" that prohibit people with felonies from being in a certain professional industry (other than financial services; not sure that statutes are involved there but still not asking about them).
Everett, I thought you said a felon couldn't be a psychologist?
"Getting licensed as a psychologist, even with a felony, is not impossible. ... Note that licensing requirements for psychologists and other professions vary by state. In Texas, for example, a felony would bar you from practicing as a psychologist."
"Getting licensed as a psychologist, even with a felony, is not impossible. ... Note that licensing requirements for psychologists and other professions vary by state. In Texas, for example, a felony would bar you from practicing as a psychologist."
astutegriz
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PlayerRep said:
To answer your question, there is a study that shows a strong positive correlation between “those who played the game, got their jaw broke in fights, and played rugby for many years,” and “dumb, lazy, and dishonest.” Old language to explain it was punch drunk, new terminology is CTE. I’m too dumb and lazy to link the article though. Or maybe I’m just being dishonest.
The problem I see is the bsc doesn’t have a uniform criminal code. What may be considered a felony in California might not be in Washington or Montana. Some of these other states also have degrees of a crime, diversion programs and expungement procedures for first time felony offenders which we don’t have in Montana so it’s not a level playing field. Also 99% plus of all criminal indictments are pled out and if you have a decent defense attorney who can get creative in crafting a plea agreement you can mask the underlying criminal conduct and call it something else. In Montana the criminal mischief and criminal endangerment statues are used all the time to plea felonies down to misdemeanors. Why have a code of conduct only for scholarship athletes? Why not treat them like the rest of the student body? I got a bad feeling about this one Bob. :roll:
PlayerRep said:
Well, I’ll own the lazy thing. That sounds kinda familiar.
Which is why I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for your research and multiple posts which so perfectly prove my point. It’s appreciated.
Oh, and seriously consider a CT Scan from a reputable Neuro. Improvements in the tratement of CTEs are being made daily.
EverettGriz said:
The fact remains that almost nothing in your initial below statement is accurate:
"There are a number of professional industries in which people are statutorily barred if they have a felony conviction (or plead no contest), even if they "have done their time"."
By the way, what's a "professional industry"? Did you name any? Did you cite even one statute? Nope. I assume that may be some statutes saying child molesting and similar or quasi-similar things disqualify people from being around kids.
Had you said, there are some types of felonies that disqualify people from certain jobs, that wouldn't have attracted my attention.
JFC.
In all seriousness: Neuro consult. Immediately.
In all seriousness: Neuro consult. Immediately.
This is the person, an activist, whom the Big Sky worked with to create the Big Sky policy. According to an article I read on NAU in an AZ paper. This activist is on the ncaa committee.
https://twitter.com/brendatracy24
Here's a recent article discussing the ncaa and certain schools' policies/positions. The activist is also quoted.
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/30/ncaa-sexual-assault-policy/
"Tracy would like the NCAA to adopt a policy similar to the one Indiana University implemented last year, which bans its teams from accepting any athletes with a documented history of sexual or domestic violence. IU’s policy was inspired by a similar one implemented by the Southeastern Conference regarding transfers.
Though Indiana athletic director Fred Glass said: “We didn’t implement it to be like a trailblazer or pulling people toward this policy.”
Laws differ from state to state, down to definitions of sexual assault. A one-size fits all NCAA policy that bans athletes with past transgressions would be difficult to craft and possibly vulnerable to legal challenges.
“What is that a life sentence?” said Cleveland-based attorney Susan Stone, who represented Ma’Lik Richmond, the Youngstown State football player convicted of rape in juvenile court when he was in high school.
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Campus backlash prompted Youngstown State to ban Richmond from playing last season. He sued the school, which had no policy like Indiana’s. The school settled and lifted the ban.
“There needs to be some thought before you ostracize students,” Stone said.
https://twitter.com/brendatracy24
Here's a recent article discussing the ncaa and certain schools' policies/positions. The activist is also quoted.
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/30/ncaa-sexual-assault-policy/
"Tracy would like the NCAA to adopt a policy similar to the one Indiana University implemented last year, which bans its teams from accepting any athletes with a documented history of sexual or domestic violence. IU’s policy was inspired by a similar one implemented by the Southeastern Conference regarding transfers.
Though Indiana athletic director Fred Glass said: “We didn’t implement it to be like a trailblazer or pulling people toward this policy.”
Laws differ from state to state, down to definitions of sexual assault. A one-size fits all NCAA policy that bans athletes with past transgressions would be difficult to craft and possibly vulnerable to legal challenges.
“What is that a life sentence?” said Cleveland-based attorney Susan Stone, who represented Ma’Lik Richmond, the Youngstown State football player convicted of rape in juvenile court when he was in high school.
Related Articles
Campus backlash prompted Youngstown State to ban Richmond from playing last season. He sued the school, which had no policy like Indiana’s. The school settled and lifted the ban.
“There needs to be some thought before you ostracize students,” Stone said.
Does anyone have a link to the new bsc serious misconduct code, thanks.
I wonder if schools hold seminars to educate their athletes on the student code of conduct and just general information on the pitfalls they will likely encounter. Someone should come up with an actual class for credit on being a student athlete that everyone should be required to take. Maybe the krackour book should be required reading to impress upon them how things are perceived by others outside of the team and can get blown out of proportion, Scared straight. Lol
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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:thumb:EverettGriz said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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astutegriz said:
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CTE. Definitely. I know PR would like a link but just go back and check how badly the Butte Bulldogs kicked the shit out of the Bozo Chickenshits during the mid 60s...