Big (really big) MONEY

[Copper Griz]

Check out the freaking salaries of some of these coaches. Some interesting points in this article and Rolls Royce might want to ponder a few of them. I personally think the cash they are paying some of these coaches is ridiculously high, but the revenue the football programs are generating for different universities educational programs is impressive. I believe this also demonstrates the differences between FCS, FBS and upper tier FBS. There is no way in hell the University of Montana could compete with FBS schools for a competitive coaches salary. Especially given the states median income is approximately 30k or less. Tough to attract a coach and then keep one if he can move up to another school and make millions. We couldn't even keep BH and he is not making close to a million per year. Crazy stuff.


http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201212/massive-coaching-salaries-are-justified

 

[kemajic]

Especially given the states median income is approximately 30k or less.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201212/massive-coaching-salaries-are-justified

Montana's median household income runs about $45,000, ahead of states like Alabama, Louisiana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, West Virginia and Tennessee which manage to have fair football programs. Try to stick to the facts without embellishing your point with misinformation. In fact, maybe you need to rework your point.

 

[Copper Griz]

Especially given the states median income is approximately 30k or less.
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201212/massive-coaching-salaries-are-justified

Or $45,000; try to stick to the facts without embellishing your point with misinformation.

You are absolutely correct and my apologies to the board. I looked at old data based on per capita income figures. Having said that, in my humble opinion - big salaries for coaches in Montana would not be received well.

 

[NewPapaBear]

EXIBIT A
Kentucky: The Courier-Journal reports that offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Neal Brown will earn $550,000 annually, defensive coordinator DJ Eliot will earn $500,000 annually, and offensive line coach John Schlarmann will earn $200,000 annually. Both coordinators have contracts through June 30, 2016.

 

[GrizMontana]

The ability to pay a coach is based on the financials of the school and the program not what the people in the state make. Having a rabid fan base and great attendance is not even a contributing factor.... Montana is a small market that doesn't generate the other revenue streams most other schools generate, the ability to create a great revenue stream is based on selling. Ad revenue (based on population and veiwership), sponsorship and affiliation sales of national brands. Brands and what they are willing to pay are based on the market, who sees the product/brand and how each can monetize the relationship.

I see lots of local/regional sponsors not deep pocket national advertisers. Even Nike who supports UM gives product support(as it does with most schools) not $$.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Head coaches shouldnt make any more than what UM pays their coach.

We need to redistribute the wealth generated by football programs everywhere back into the states public coffers, that way the left can piss away that money too. After all its not their money its the taxpayers and that is OK to steal from them.

Its just a "tax" that isnt a "tax"......so its OK.

 

[kemajic]

The ability to pay a coach is based on the financials of the school and the program not what the people in the state make. Having a rabid fan base and great attendance is not even a contributing factor.... Montana is a small market that doesn't generate the other revenue streams most other schools generate, the ability to create a great revenue stream is based on selling. Ad revenue (based on population and veiwership), sponsorship and affiliation sales of national brands. Brands and what they are willing to pay are based on the market, who sees the product/brand and how each can monetize the relationship.

I see lots of local/regional sponsors not deep pocket national advertisers. Even Nike who supports UM gives product support(as it does with most schools) not $$.

The big school's revenue comes predominantly from TV contracts negotiated at the conferance level, which is the driving force for most of membership shifts. TV money in the BSC is peanuts.

 

[GrizMontana]

Not all the ad revenue is generated at the conference level. I agree the BSC money is peanuts. The ability to generate revenue in general is based on size of market not how many people go to the games.... which was my original point.

 

[NewPapaBear]

There are four major components to revenue generation:

- Tickets which need to stay affordable so you can keep the stadium full
- Food & Beverage obviously revenue growth here is created by the ability to grow attendance
- Merchandise a major cash-cow especially at the collegiate level; Change uniform look & make money
- Parking a premium item at the collegiate level due to the lack of availability of spots close to the stadium

I left Advertising out of the big four because most colleges cannot afford the expense associated with staffing personnel whom are experienced and capable of maximizing corporate sponsorship opportunities.
The wild card is the advertising as it is effected by market size along with the capacity to expand your marketing outside of the region in which you play.

I am confident that the U is doing everything they can to grow in each area. All of these have a ceiling of sorts. Especially in this day & age of easily accessible digital media. If you don't buy that ask the NFL about the serious issues they are currently going through with getting fans to come to the stadium.

A quality game day experience is far more affordable at the collegiate level. Plus, passions run deeper for college sports teams then they do professionally!

NPB

 

[Copper Griz]

I think you make very valid points NPD. The question remains how will the University of Montana fair with future coaches and salary requirements. I just don't see a way to generate enough revenue for a coaches salary and all the expenses associated with the program. Only so much money to go around.

 

[NewPapaBear]

I think you make very valid points NPD. The question remains how will the University of Montana fair with future coaches and salary requirements. I just don't see a way to generate enough revenue for a coaches salary and all the expenses associated with the program. Only so much money to go around.

Thanks, you are correct about the capacity for growth. As it all comes back to market size. Its a number games on & off the field. Maximizing the resources is critical. It can be done but WE as fans have to realize that we are a "mid-major" from a fiscal standpoint as a program. Getting a coach with name recognition is a difficult task. Guys with either build or repair a reputation coaching the Griz.

From a coaching standpoint...We are a stepping stone program but a very attractive one!

 

[JAKEweezy93]

if I was senater of montana i would make the same tax plan as lester green. give everybody in the state a milly and then they pay 24 dollars of taxes. so with more than hundreds of thousands of ppl in the state that would create about 20 million dollars for me to spend. I would bank at least 10 milly on the griz which would make us one of the top football programs in d2 or d1 within a few years.

just solved that budget shit in one minute but what do i know? guess i aint white enough to be politician :loser:

 

[Copper Griz]

if I was senater of montana i would make the same tax plan as lester green. give everybody in the state a milly and then they pay 24 dollars of taxes. so with more than hundreds of thousands of ppl in the state that would create about 20 million dollars for me to spend. I would bank at least 10 milly on the griz which would make us one of the top football programs in d2 or d1 within a few years.

just solved that budget shit in one minute but what do i know? guess i aint white enough to be politician :loser:

Senator Weezy. Sweet!!! You are certainly smarter than anyone in D.C. The amazing mathematics you spewed in your post proves your IQ is off the charts. Awesome analysis. :lol:

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

if I was senater of montana i would make the same tax plan as lester green. give everybody in the state a milly and then they pay 24 dollars of taxes. so with more than hundreds of thousands of ppl in the state that would create about 20 million dollars for me to spend. I would bank at least 10 milly on the griz which would make us one of the top football programs in d2 or d1 within a few years.

just solved that budget shit in one minute but what do i know? guess i aint white enough to be politician :loser:

Senator Weezy. Sweet!!! You are certainly smarter than anyone in D.C. The amazing mathematics you spewed in your post proves your IQ is off the charts. Awesome analysis.

Shows you what can be done once you get past remedial kindergarten. :shock:


After fourteeen tries. :thumb:

 

[BigPawzSharpClawz]

Nick Holt Sr joins Patrino staff at Western Kentucky: Arkansas on-campus recruiting coordinator and former Washington defensive coordinator Nick Holt and Arkansas grad assistant L.D. Scott have accepted positions on Bobby Petrino's staff at Western Kentucky.

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[Ursa Major]

Nick Holt Sr joins Patrino staff at Western Kentucky: Arkansas on-campus recruiting coordinator and former Washington defensive coordinator Nick Holt and Arkansas grad assistant L.D. Scott have accepted positions on Bobby Petrino's staff at Western Kentucky.

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Good luck with that...