Bench McKinney??

[grizindabox]

OH, so he is still perfect then, where if it was Hayden Craig who did that it would be "city kids aren't fundamentally sound because they didn't go to brandings in the spring time." Now i get it. Thanks for the explanation.

Are you stupid? I also want you to answer this question, do you think any other Big Sky team would trade their starting QB for McKinney?

 

[George Ferguson]

self-destruct??? whatever. And in none of my posts did i say NOT to bench TM. All I'm saying is that you, Grizmayor and a bunch of other cry babies are defending a blatant dropped pass with assanine logic like, "Greg Hardy couldn't believe he threw it to him!!!" When you know damn well that if that was Willie Walden, you'd all be on here screaming about how he dropped a wide open pass.

 

[grizindabox]

havgrizfan, no one on here defended Hardy, and if want to think this is all based on that single play, you should buy a clue. I guess no one should point the finger at Nguyen about his fumblitis because you might get upset since we would be picking on a kid not from Montana.

 

[stubbins]

self-destruct??? whatever. And in none of my posts did i say NOT to bench TM. All I'm saying is that you, Grizmayor and a bunch of other cry babies are defending a blatant dropped pass with assanine logic like, "Greg Hardy couldn't believe he threw it to him!!!" When you know damn well that if that was Willie Walden, you'd all be on here screaming about how he dropped a wide open pass.

please tell me you didn't take my line of "Hardy couldn't believe he threw it to him accurately" as a serious statement....

 

[George Ferguson]

your words not mine.....

 

[hokeyfine]

McKinney is not the problem. We have a former NFL QB who can't get him to throw the ball more than 3 yards? Rosenbach is the problem. Sack his ass, along with Gregorak. Both are horrid.

Wait a minute. I was reading on this board at the beginning of the season that "Rosy" was a great and up and coming coordinator?!?!............. Why do you think he's been out of football before he came back with the Griz?

 

[PhxGriz]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

 

[stubbins]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

Do you believe that rosenbach's playcalling would be like this with Pflu as the coach? I look to the head man....

Also, I think he knows if TM throws the ball downfield a lot, he will set the career mark for interceptions in one quarter.

 

[grizindabox]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

You ever think that the Griz are offensively limited...by say...the QB?

 

[batrack]

McKinney is not the problem. We have a former NFL QB who can't get him to throw the ball more than 3 yards? Rosenbach is the problem. Sack his ass, along with Gregorak. Both are horrid.

I was thinking the same thing. Open it up a little bit and it would only help the running game. At some time as a offenseive coordinator you have to take the training wheels off of your reshirt qb. I also noticed several bad reads on the stretch play today that I had not seen much of this year. If you put SHH in there it would be ugly. This offense is designed for a Mckinney/JJ qb and not a pocket passer.

 

[TerrapinStation]

McKinney is not the problem. We have a former NFL QB who can't get him to throw the ball more than 3 yards? Rosenbach is the problem. Sack his ass, along with Gregorak. Both are horrid.

I was thinking the same thing. Open it up a little bit and it would only help the running game. At some time as a offenseive coordinator you have to take the training wheels off of your reshirt qb. I also noticed several bad reads on the stretch play today that I had not seen much of this year. If you put SHH in there it would be ugly. This offense is designed for a Mckinney/JJ qb and not a pocket passer.

No reason to hold back now. Someone should tell them about play-action fake.

 

[mtgrizrule]

He threw the deep ball well when he did today. The problem is a combination of play calling, and not having the skill players on the same page.

 

[PhxGriz]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

You ever think that the Griz are offensively limited...by say...the QB?

I don't know man, but I do see him throw a mean ball up to 30 yards. Maybe I am missing the coverage, as I watch it via TV or internet, but I just can't believe TM is THAT bad we can't open the playbook more than we have.

Did we not recruit him?

 

[tnt]

McKinney is not the problem. We have a former NFL QB who can't get him to throw the ball more than 3 yards? Rosenbach is the problem. Sack his ass, along with Gregorak. Both are horrid.

I was thinking the same thing. Open it up a little bit and it would only help the running game. At some time as a offenseive coordinator you have to take the training wheels off of your reshirt qb. I also noticed several bad reads on the stretch play today that I had not seen much of this year. If you put SHH in there it would be ugly. This offense is designed for a Mckinney/JJ qb and not a pocket passer.

There is a design to this offense????

 

[BirdGrizman]

He threw those deep balls well, I think there were only to that were considered deep all day they hung up in the air forever and one was complete early in the game and it was lucky to be caught, he did put alot of a ball intended for Henderson that almost made it to the front row in the end zone though, maybe that is the one you thought look good??

 

[grizindabox]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

You ever think that the Griz are offensively limited...by say...the QB?

I don't know man, but I do see him throw a mean ball up to 30 yards. Maybe I am missing the coverage, as I watch it via TV or internet, but I just can't believe TM is THAT bad we can't open the playbook more than we have.

Did we not recruit him?

Would this automatically make him good?

 

[b_f_c_99]

McKinney is not the problem. We have a former NFL QB who can't get him to throw the ball more than 3 yards? Rosenbach is the problem. Sack his ass, along with Gregorak. Both are horrid.

I was thinking the same thing. Open it up a little bit and it would only help the running game. At some time as a offenseive coordinator you have to take the training wheels off of your reshirt qb. I also noticed several bad reads on the stretch play today that I had not seen much of this year. If you put SHH in there it would be ugly. This offense is designed for a Mckinney/JJ qb and not a pocket passer.

From the little I have seen of SSH he is a much better passer than McKinney, but if you asked him to run this offense he would fail. Rosenbach is not the problem, the other teams coaches know that there is no possible way McKinney can throw the ball down field with any success for a whole game, and so does Rosenbach. If you don't believe that your kidding yourself.

So going forward you have to decide if your going to stick with the "spread option" or go to something more traditional or some sort of passing attack. If you did that SSH may be great. If your not going to do that will McKinney mature and get better? Only time will tell.

But I think the real reality is this team is young, and they just aren't that good right now. No amount of "coaching" is going to make an individuals skill set that radically different. If you ask McKinney to throw the ball all over the field, he will fail, if you ask SSH to run the read option he will fail.

 

[PhxGriz]

Everyone is missing the point. Hardy and McKinney should not have been put in a situation in which ONE dropped pass was the game. Sack Rosenbach. He has proved he cannot coach at his level unless he has a star QB.

You ever think that the Griz are offensively limited...by say...the QB?

I don't know man, but I do see him throw a mean ball up to 30 yards. Maybe I am missing the coverage, as I watch it via TV or internet, but I just can't believe TM is THAT bad we can't open the playbook more than we have.

Did we not recruit him?

Would this automatically make him good?

I understand what you are saying, but I sure hope it does. While Montana does recruit some that aren't up to speed, I have always assumed Trent was what we wanted.

He has delivered in almost every way in my opinion. Trent is not the problem.

 

[grizindabox]

You ever think that the Griz are offensively limited...by say...the QB?

I don't know man, but I do see him throw a mean ball up to 30 yards. Maybe I am missing the coverage, as I watch it via TV or internet, but I just can't believe TM is THAT bad we can't open the playbook more than we have.

Did we not recruit him?

Would this automatically make him good?

I understand what you are saying, but I sure hope it does. While Montana does recruit some that aren't up to speed, I have always assumed Trent was what we wanted.

He has delivered in almost every way in my opinion. Trent is not the problem.

Trent is part of the problem.

 

[tgriz]

Yes please. He is lost out there and is simply no good.