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Basketball updates anyone?

Grizbacker1 said:
citay said:
it takes time for big kids to develop. you're asking way too much of reader to step into qvale's shoes.

if we hadn't burned qvale's redshirt year, we wouldn't have to fill his shoes. then we'd really be something this year.

get over it ffs, you are the biggest pussy ass whiner this board has next to midget boy steve dill

sorta sad when you think about it. not gb1's evident personality flaws, but the circumstances surrounding qvale's true freshman year, 2006-2007.

tinks was in his second year as head coach. he would go 14-16, after a 17-15 record his first year. put yourself in his position. the boobirds were out. he couldn't coach, he wasn't ready, blah, blah, blah. this board was afire with critics. but most of all, he wasn't the legendary krystkowiak. the program would sink under his tutelage. tinks had to be feeling some pressure.

into this environment steps qvale. i saw him play at pacific that year, and the talent was obvious. you couldn't really fault a coach for playing him. at the same time, we all know it takes more time for big men to develop, and that too was obvious in qvale. he tried to block every shot, often getting into foul trouble. selvig in his fifth year is learning to slow the game down, let it come to him, but this takes time. qvale hadn't yet learned this. combine that with several injuries he suffered that year, and it was pretty much a lost year for qvale, in a sad season for montana basketball.

i've often wondered, if tinks had had more talent, and had been personally in a more secure space as a coach that second year, would he have made the same decision? against new mexico, qvale was the best player on the court. and how often does a montana team go into pauley against ucla and have the better center? tinks went out and recruited the players he needed--athletic wings, a big time point guard. i don't doubt reader and selvig will be good this year. but with qvale back, this would have been potentially a top 25 or sweet 16 team.

but, yup, gb's right, as he occasionally is. i gotta get over it. but it coulda been special.
 
Well, Citay, that is one of the very things that makes college bball special...every team loses a great player and another steps up...Sadly, Selvig is not the guy but he has his role, I suppose. What I hope for, in lieu of a pure big guy, is a team that learned from the embarrassing loss to Duquesne at the end of the last season. I think Tinkle and the players had a rude wake up call...there is a reason the East and South produce great teams.....aggressiveness and speed can negate any great need for a big guy in the center....
 
GrizLA said:
Well, Citay, that is one of the very things that makes college bball special...every team loses a great player and another steps up...Sadly, Selvig is not the guy but he has his role, I suppose. What I hope for, in lieu of a pure big guy, is a team that learned from the embarrassing loss to Duquesne at the end of the last season. I think Tinkle and the players had a rude wake up call...there is a reason the East and South produce great teams.....aggressiveness and speed can negate any great need for a big guy in the center....

well, lagriz, that is true about college basketball...only we're not a carolina, or a duke or a ucla, where one great player leaves just as another great player crawls in the window. in the roughly 40 years since heathcote put montana basketball back on the map, we've had only a handful of great ones. not only was qvale one of them, he was a center--the first or second (after point guard) most important position on the court. talk all you want about duquesne, the east, the south, climate change or gb1's virility crisis, there's no way we're a better team this year without qvale.

end of discourse!
 
Citay...what has happened to you? You used to be a good person, now sound like a seasoned egrizzer! You are living in the past....UM doesn't need a GREAT go to guy if they have a solid team like we have now. Speed and coaching and aggressive defense...that is what UM needs to compete with the top "elite"....it has been years since UM had as much talent on the floor as we have now. Time and won-loss records in March will prove which is correct...
 
citay said:
Grizbacker1 said:
citay said:
it takes time for big kids to develop. you're asking way too much of reader to step into qvale's shoes.

if we hadn't burned qvale's redshirt year, we wouldn't have to fill his shoes. then we'd really be something this year.

get over it ffs, you are the biggest pussy ass whiner this board has next to midget boy steve dill

sorta sad when you think about it. not gb1's evident personality flaws, but the circumstances surrounding qvale's true freshman year, 2006-2007.

tinks was in his second year as head coach. he would go 14-16, after a 17-15 record his first year. put yourself in his position. the boobirds were out. he couldn't coach, he wasn't ready, blah, blah, blah. this board was afire with critics. but most of all, he wasn't the legendary krystkowiak. the program would sink under his tutelage. tinks had to be feeling some pressure.

into this environment steps qvale. i saw him play at pacific that year, and the talent was obvious. you couldn't really fault a coach for playing him. at the same time, we all know it takes more time for big men to develop, and that too was obvious in qvale. he tried to block every shot, often getting into foul trouble. selvig in his fifth year is learning to slow the game down, let it come to him, but this takes time. qvale hadn't yet learned this. combine that with several injuries he suffered that year, and it was pretty much a lost year for qvale, in a sad season for montana basketball.

i've often wondered, if tinks had had more talent, and had been personally in a more secure space as a coach that second year, would he have made the same decision? against new mexico, qvale was the best player on the court. and how often does a montana team go into pauley against ucla and have the better center? tinks went out and recruited the players he needed--athletic wings, a big time point guard. i don't doubt reader and selvig will be good this year. but with qvale back, this would have been potentially a top 25 or sweet 16 team.

but, yup, gb's right, as he occasionally is. i gotta get over it. but it coulda been special.


The only thing GB1 is right about is deciding to change his Depends every two hours, instead of every four. That sessile blob of protoplasm hasn't seen his feet since 2002.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
citay said:
it takes time for big kids to develop. you're asking way too much of reader to step into qvale's shoes.

if we hadn't burned qvale's redshirt year, we wouldn't have to fill his shoes. then we'd really be something this year.

get over it ffs, you are the biggest pussy ass whiner this board has next to midget boy steve dill

You just love to paste my name all over this site, huh shit-for-brains? Why don't you reveal YOUR name on here??? Oh, I forgot what a big pussy you are. Keyboards make great safe-havens, eh Jizzpacker?
 
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