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Griz!ron said:
Stitt doesn't like that Makena get confused and doesn't always make quality decisions. That is the key to his offense, high speed processing power in the QB.
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How has that shown to be an advantage for Brady? The word "miscommunication" has occurred in connection with Brady more than "all of our other quarterbacks put together" -- words that cannot often be written ....

The more familiar that Brady has ostensibly become with "The Strategy" the worse he has become in all categories. That's either "Brady" or the "Strategy" or both, but not an indicator of great coaching skill for either alternative. Go with what works. "Brady" wasn't working.
 
UMGriz75 said:
rimrockgriz said:
Stitt has never wavered on his choice for the starting q.b. Expect to see Gus if he is physically ready to go... :egriz:
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This reflects one of my concerns about Coach Stitt, an "I'm right no matter what" attitude that has led to unwarranted losses.
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Stitt fits in well with a few egrizzers. :lol: :thumb:
 
UMGriz75 said:
How has that shown to be an advantage for Brady? The word "miscommunication" has occurred in connection with Brady more than "all of our other quarterbacks put together" -- words that cannot often be written ....

The more familiar that Brady has ostensibly become with "The Strategy" the worse he has become in all categories. That's either "Brady" or the "Strategy" or both, but not an indicator of great coaching skill for either alternative. Go with what works. "Brady" wasn't working.
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I am not sure that you are wrong in that Gus wasn't working in his second or third game. I just saying that Stitt seems to think Gus is the better decision maker. Makena wasn't working in his second game either.
 
If the offense is so complicated that only one QB, Gus, gets it and can run the whole playbook, then maybe the offense is just TOO complicated. Both Chalich and Simis were supposedly operating a "limited" offense. I like the fact that Simis can gain yards with his feet. If your QB is no threat to run, doesn't that limit the offense as well?
 
It is too complicated for Simis because he has no clue what a secondary receiver is or how to find him....
 
UMGriz75 said:
brewskis said:
rimrockgriz said:
Stitt has never wavered on his choice for the starting q.b. Expect to see Gus if he is physically ready to go... :egriz:
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Brady is the guy. He adds more dimensions to the offense than Simis.
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Brady had a good passing game against NDSU, although overthrows on long balls was a consistent weakness, and "miscommunications" a persistent problem. He ran for just 4 yards.

At Cal Poly, the switch to a short ball strategy resulted in three interceptions and just 33 yards rushing, and despite 353 yard passing, just 19 points and the loss.

At Liberty, doubling down on the same strategy before Brady got hurt led to a low pass completion percentage and just an 8 yard passing average and no rushing yards.

I just don't see where that strategy is supposed to go. Nobody can say it was working.

In contrast, Makena has scored the highest number points of any of our QBs, has more touchdown throws in one game than Brady's games combined, and has outrun Brady on the average 10:1.

What are Brady's "dimensions?"
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He did more than Simis. Had more of the offense in his toolbox. Simis threw 22 passes against UND, lots of deep passes that went for big plays. Then PSU happened. Offensive line is going to make any decision basically pointless, but Brady can get the ball to more guys in more places on the field.

Stitt has said that he is looking forward to being more multiple in the offense, like we were against NDSU. Gotta get Brady back out there to see if we can get that back.
 
Griz2k said:
If the offense is so complicated that only one QB, Gus, gets it and can run the whole playbook, then maybe the offense is just TOO complicated. Both Chalich and Simis were supposedly operating a "limited" offense. I like the fact that Simis can gain yards with his feet. If your QB is no threat to run, doesn't that limit the offense as well?
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They might need more than three games to "get it"
 
Griz!ron said:
Griz2k said:
If the offense is so complicated that only one QB, Gus, gets it and can run the whole playbook, then maybe the offense is just TOO complicated. Both Chalich and Simis were supposedly operating a "limited" offense. I like the fact that Simis can gain yards with his feet. If your QB is no threat to run, doesn't that limit the offense as well?
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They might need more than three games to "get it"
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Plus all of spring ball, plus all of fall camp.
 
Griz2k said:
Griz!ron said:
Griz2k said:
If the offense is so complicated that only one QB, Gus, gets it and can run the whole playbook, then maybe the offense is just TOO complicated. Both Chalich and Simis were supposedly operating a "limited" offense. I like the fact that Simis can gain yards with his feet. If your QB is no threat to run, doesn't that limit the offense as well?
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They might need more than three games to "get it"
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Plus all of spring ball, plus all of fall camp.
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There is an alternative to the offense being TOO complicated....
 
Just a tiny bit off topic, but I thought it might have been good to sit Mr. Simis down for a series after the second or third interception. Watching a series or two might have helped him get into the game.
 
grizindabox said:
Griz2k said:
Griz!ron said:
Griz2k said:
If the offense is so complicated that only one QB, Gus, gets it and can run the whole playbook, then maybe the offense is just TOO complicated. Both Chalich and Simis were supposedly operating a "limited" offense. I like the fact that Simis can gain yards with his feet. If your QB is no threat to run, doesn't that limit the offense as well?
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They might need more than three games to "get it"
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Plus all of spring ball, plus all of fall camp.
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There is an alternative to the offense being TOO complicated....
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Naw it seems pretty simple....pass long on 1st down even if covered....2nd down run read-option, but always hand it off....third pass short of first down marker...then either punt, go for it on 4th or outside chance kick a field goal
 
Griz!ron said:
UMGriz75 said:
I am not sure that you are wrong in that Gus wasn't working in his second or third game. I just saying that Stitt seems to think Gus is the better decision maker. Makena wasn't working in his second game either.
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In the rain, Dakota Prukop had his worse game ever on the same day. Did he suddenly become a "bad decision maker?" Why was Brady's performance deteriorating in three successive games and, in not one of them, did he offer the performance that Makena did against UND. Stitt installed more plays at PSU trying, once again, to fiddle with plays and gin them up to dazzle the opposition with their complexity.

Wasn't working for Brady in three successive games; didn't work for Makena in the one game after he outstanding success with a different, straightforward offense. What's the common denominator?
 
mcg said:
Just a tiny bit off topic, but I thought it might have been good to sit Mr. Simis down for a series after the second or third interception. Watching a series or two might have helped him get into the game.
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Didn't do it after the third interception on Brady at Cal Poly. Should he have?
 
Simis will rip it(in a positive way) this weekend in the Dome......take it to the bank. We will all re-up on the bandwagon later that day.
 
UMGriz75 said:
mcg said:
Just a tiny bit off topic, but I thought it might have been good to sit Mr. Simis down for a series after the second or third interception. Watching a series or two might have helped him get into the game.
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Didn't do it after the third interception on Brady at Cal Poly. Should he have?
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Maybe. In Portland putting in the wildcat QB might have been a beneficial change of pace. In Portland it was three int's in the first quarter (if I remember correctly), I think a reset was called for. Against Poly the int's were more spread out, but it couldn't have hurt to have simply said "Brady, just watch the next series".
 
You do realize that they didn't really have a second QB to use at PSU....outside of an injury to Simis...
 
UMGriz75 said:
Griz!ron said:
UMGriz75 said:
I am not sure that you are wrong in that Gus wasn't working in his second or third game. I just saying that Stitt seems to think Gus is the better decision maker. Makena wasn't working in his second game either.
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In the rain, Dakota Prukop had his worse game ever on the same day. Did he suddenly become a "bad decision maker?" Why was Brady's performance deteriorating in three successive games and, in not one of them, did he offer the performance that Makena did against UND. Stitt installed more plays at PSU trying, once again, to fiddle with plays and gin them up to dazzle the opposition with their complexity.

Wasn't working for Brady in three successive games; didn't work for Makena in the one game after he outstanding success with a different, straightforward offense. What's the common denominator?
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Inexperience at QB, combined with a system that demands quick, decisive reads. It is both.
 
grizindabox said:
I just wanted to add this....both QB's had their best game when the WR's were making plays...rest of the time not so much. What does this mean....I will let you make up your own mind...
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I agree. Each QB had their best game when the ball reached the WR's hands. :ugeek:
 
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