Available Coaches?

[LongTimeCatFan]

Im sure theres loads of folks wanting to come into a system that is whipped up into a HYSTERICAL lynch mob with an asshat like Royce Engstrom running around throwing good people into the fire and watching them burn.

Fire Royce Engstrom then rehire Pflu and Oday

We get it. You have an axe to grind with Engstrom because he wouldn't let UM make a bad decision and move to the WAC. Let it go.

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[BLGlacier]

Rick Neuheisel is available. What do you think?

 

[mcg]

Neuheisel would be an excellent choice. Good guy, great recruiter, great coach. He'd get real Grizzy real fast. Hire him.

 

[GrizPDX]

This thread has gotten real interesting and the names are intriguing.

1. Dan Hawkins: Was talking with a colleague of mine today who follow cfb really close and he made a good point. Hawking was a good coach at Boise State and he just could not hang in the Big 12 at Colorado. However the kids he got at Colorado would be fine FCS players.

2. Dennis Erickson - I like this name and would bring definate sizzle to the program. However are his Bobcat ties too strong for him to think about the Griz Job.

3. Paul Wulff: This makes sense as well and the man can win at the FCS level.

4. Dave Dickinson: While would be a hugely popular name with Griz nation the lack of collegiate experience makes it not a good fit.

5. Mike Van Diest: I personally think this is the guy. He runs a tight ship at Carroll, is a proven winner, recruits players at Carroll that are FCS quality, and knows how to recruit.

Other names that could be interesting:

1. What about Jerome Souers? Are the ties to UM from the Don Read days still there where he would leave NAU.

If you want a coach with some name value but needing to rebuild their career what about these two names:

1. Dave Wanstad
2. Tyrone Willingham

Why don't you stick to hoops and stay out of this discussion, most notably the Carroll homer comment about "personally I feel Van Diest is the guy, proven winner". I've heard enough of the comments talking about him over the last 8 years from you homer fans. He is NOT the guy you want in this position. Yeah, he's a great local recruiter, in state recruiter, good for him. But you think he has recruited a ton of FCS talent to Carroll? Wait and see just how badly they get beat up by Portland State this year, then we'll talk FCS talent.

The Montana football program did not become what it is today just because we had great in state kids. The program grew and became great when we started recruiting So Cal, Texas, Arizona. I'm sorry, but a guy like Van Diest isn't the guy I want at UM.

 

[GrizPDX]

And again, I strongly believe there is going to be another 8 months of speculation out there because hiring a guy right now who doesn't have a job isn't the right move. Why would we want a coach who every other team in the nation passed up on and is currently unemployed? You hire an interim (Ty, Rosie, somebody from the program), let them run the system we have in place with the players we have, hire an AD and let the AD run a full search next fall/winter. Every coach in the nation is going to know that the University of Montana head football coach position is available, and the pool of names won't include a bunch of hasbeens like Hawkins or an NAIA coach.

 

[lotsa]

Coach Van Diest has always been a great choice and should have been given more serious consideration when the last alleged "search" was conducted. He has coached at big programs and done well. He is in Helena by choice. Six rings speak for themselves (with 8 national champtionship appearances--157-22 according to the web site). He can recruit with anyone and would adopt or bring in a top flight staff. The few vitriolic posters that go after him every time his name is mentioned dont know what they are talking about. He would maintain the highest quality program on and off the field. However, he is likely not interested given his loyalty, the timing and the way he was treated in the last search.

 

[GrizPDX]

Coach Van Diest has always been a great choice and should have been given more serious consideration when the last alleged "search" was conducted. He has coached at big programs and done well. He is in Helena by choice. Six rings speak for themselves (with 8 national champtionship appearances--157-22 according to the web site). He can recruit with anyone and would adopt or bring in a top flight staff. The few vitriolic posters that go after him every time his name is mentioned dont know what they are talking about. He would maintain the highest quality program on and off the field. However, he is likely not interested given his loyalty, the timing and the way he was treated in the last search.

Just another Van Diest homer. Six rings, while a good job by him, his staff, and his players are not against this level of competition. Does anybody that wants him not realize that NAIA is 3 levels of football below FCS? Not to mention, look at what he is recruiting against at that level. Carroll being a private school has an unbelieveably advantage against schools like Tech, Western, Northern, etc. because of the funding they have put into the program. What happens when you bring a guy like that into a public University system where he is on a level playing field recruiting wise? Nobody knows exactly what would happen, but you can't tell me there are a million other coaches who are more prepared for the job. Just because he is geographically close to us and has won a bunch of games doesn't mean he is the right choice.

 

[Cujo]

Does anybody that wants him not realize that NAIA is 3 levels of football below FCS?

Not saying I'm a Carroll homer or anything, but NAIA > DIII. 2 levels below FCS. Carry on.

 

[greasewood]

You really think these top FBS coaches you are mentioning would coach the Griz for what we can pay them?

 

[Forshizzlegrizzle]

Does anybody that wants him not realize that NAIA is 3 levels of football below FCS?

Not saying I'm a Carroll homer or anything, but NAIA > DIII. 2 levels below FCS. Carry on.

Who was a person that coached at Carroll that moved up to another level? Just curious if that person had any success.

 

[Spiffy_Magoo]

Does anybody that wants him not realize that NAIA is 3 levels of football below FCS?

Not saying I'm a Carroll homer or anything, but NAIA > DIII. 2 levels below FCS. Carry on.

Who was a person that coached at Carroll that moved up to another level? Just curious if that person had any success.

 

[snap]

Has Paul Petrino been thrown out there yet? Born in Butte, starred at Carroll, OC at Illinois the last few years and now OC at Arkansas. I havn't read the whole thread so sorry if his name has come up already.

 

[George Ferguson]

PDX, just so you know, Carroll has thrived on OUT OF STATE TALENT that the other Frontier schools could never get. This past season, of 99 active players, CC only had 44 from Montana. Van Diest has plenty of experience recruiting beyond the Montana borders. Now, whoever said that all of CC's out-of-state players are FCS caliber is insane, as I'd say very few are, but the guy has recruiting connections that go way beyond Montana. After Joe Glenn, I said hell no to MVD as a candidate. After Bobby Hauck, I still said no. Now, I'm softening my stance on MVD as Griz head coach. Not saying he's the absolute best candidate available, but After knowing him for more than six years now, I'm starting to feel more and more secure with it IF that's the direction UM would decide to go.

 

[Oldgriz72]

Coach Van Diest has always been a great choice and should have been given more serious consideration when the last alleged "search" was conducted. He has coached at big programs and done well. He is in Helena by choice. Six rings speak for themselves (with 8 national champtionship appearances--157-22 according to the web site). He can recruit with anyone and would adopt or bring in a top flight staff. The few vitriolic posters that go after him every time his name is mentioned dont know what they are talking about. He would maintain the highest quality program on and off the field. However, he is likely not interested given his loyalty, the timing and the way he was treated in the last search.

Just another Van Diest homer. Six rings, while a good job by him, his staff, and his players are not against this level of competition. Does anybody that wants him not realize that NAIA is 3 levels of football below FCS? Not to mention, look at what he is recruiting against at that level. Carroll being a private school has an unbelieveably advantage against schools like Tech, Western, Northern, etc. because of the funding they have put into the program. What happens when you bring a guy like that into a public University system where he is on a level playing field recruiting wise? Nobody knows exactly what would happen, but you can't tell me there are a million other coaches who are more prepared for the job. Just because he is geographically close to us and has won a bunch of games doesn't mean he is the right choice.

PDX: I played in College and have had three kids play college football, one at Carroll and two at Montana. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[GrizDad92]

Dear God not Hawkins! i live in Denver and follow the Buffs and Rams closely. CU didn't recruit well while Hawk was here and often looked totally confused on the field. constant careless penalties, lousy fundamentals, bizzare timing on time outs. and heaven forbid ... he would bring in his son Cody as QB coach! Noooooo ...... !!!!!

 

[Oldgriz72]

From an outsiders prospective, I would suggest Kraig Paulson. I think he would be a good fit, first because he LOVES the Grizzlies and never wanted to leave, and second, because he is a great FCS defensive coach (but doesn't do so well at the FBS level).

Sorry, but we don't want any new coach changing our defensive approach. Paulson, would not be a very good choice amongst GRIZNATION.

It is pretty obvious that MGR does not know Coach Paulson personally or as a coach. Google him next time so you can speak with intelligence. He is a Griz through and through. Besides if you couldn't tell by the name of the thread we are talking about the head coach not the DC.

 

[wildway]

Details of the compensation package for Arkansas offensive coordinator Paul Petrino were released on Friday.

Petrino will make $425,000 annually, plus $50,000 for speaking engagements. His letter of agreement includes one automobile, moving expenses and three months temporary housing and a family membership to Paradise Valley Athletic Club.

Arkansas will also provide Petrino with four tickets to home football games and two tickets to all other UA sports events.

Petrino would be giving up a lot to come coach the Griz.

 

[RLGriz]

iamnotbobbyh » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:01 pm

Coach Kramer. It shouldn't be hard to get him away from Idaho State. And I'd think he would still have a big chip on his shoulder and a score to settle come November... with a team that can actually compete.

Absolutely! I was hoping that Kramer would put in for the job when Bobby left. That would be an EPIC hire, if for no other reason than the Brawl of the Wild!

 

[mthoopfan]

Griz PDX:

I am most definately not a Carroll College Homer, as if that was the case then I would be pushing Mark Samson hard as the next head coach for the Griz.

I am a Northern Lights fan through and through and bleed Maroon and Athletic Gold.

Havre Griz Fan probably knows who I am because my guess is we are at every Northern sporting event each seaxson.

That being said, I do have respect for the Program MVD has put together at Carroll College and with his track record, UM should look at him when the hire for the next permanent head coach in 2013. I truly believe the guy could coach at the FCS level and keep the Griz as the premiere FCS program in the United States. That is not mean talking that comment came from an article in the Chicago Tribune about being the premiere FCS Program.

Sure Van Diest does not have sizzle as a name but he will bring a blue collar Montana work ethic to get the job done.

If will be interesting to see if President Engstrom wants steak or sizzle. MVD is steak, Rick Neuheisel would be sizzle.

 

[GrizPony]

On another note, just how great is it to have a board filled with Havre Blue Ponies baby!