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Athlon 2015 Preseason Top 25

I feel the conference title will come down to the GRIZ and EWU, yet once again. I also feel there is not a clear cut favorite going into the season. Each team has question marks and unknowns going into the season.

For the GRIZ: New coach, staff, system, qb, and tough schedule.
New Coach/staff: As grateful as I am to Delaney for keeping the ship afloat, the train on the tracks, etc, his on the field decisions and strategy were often questionable. Everything I read and hear of Stitt is positive. Most everyone in the college football respects Stitt and thinks very highly of him. I honestly believe Stitt is a HC upgrade for the GRIZ. Also I love how much GRIZ blood is now on the staff.

I cannot help but believe the staff will have every player bleeding GRIZ blood and running through brick walls with pride. As for defense, Gregorak has improved every season at DC. I believe he will continue improving at DC, and the hiring of Coach Stitt is the best thing that could ever happen for Ty's strategy and approach. Coach Stitt strikes me as a head coach who will encourage aggressiveness and confidence from his staff and players. If that is the case, Stitt is the perfect hire to bring out the best in Gregorak. Going into this season, right now the biggest question mark defensively is DL depth. Once again LB's will be the defensive strength. Hard to believe the GRIZ once again will have a great DB unit. At worse the GRIZ DB's will be improved from last season. I expect a big season from the DB's .

Offensively, the GRIZ will be much better as the season progresses, and much more consistent from last season. I really am not too concerned about the offense, new qb etc. The offensive coaching will be top level to build the talent. Also the playcalling will not hinder that talent. A healthy Ellis Henderson alone is huge for the offense. Henderson and Jones are a dynamic duo at WR. That makes the transition much easier for everyone. A healthy Nacarato in the slot and return game is a plus too. The most under rated offensive change is the return of Chad Germer. His return will bring a tougher and nastier attitude for the offensive line. His addition is also a coaching upgrade, in my opinion.

Special teams showed solid improvement by the time last season was finished. I feel the kicking game will be more consistent. The return of Ellis and Nacarato also improves the punt and kick off return game.

Barring major injuries, at worse this is a 3 to 4 loss playoff team. I am thinking a 2 loss and high seeded playoff team is likely.

As for the main competition in the conference, it will be interesting.
EWU: How much can their defense improve? I feel the defense can only be better. How will the loss of VA impact the them? I feel they will not be as explosive without him and will likely be a better clock controlling team, but not score as many points. The offense will be among the best in the conference again. I do feel there will be a dropoff on offense though.

MSU: Like EWU, how much can their defense improve? It cannot get worse. I feel their season will likely be like the last few seasons. MSU has to get past their late season let downs. They will likely be no more than a playoff pretender this season. As good as Prukop was last season, how much better can he get? He was so good last season, it is hard to see the offense doing better than last season. I don't expect a huge improvement in their offense. Their hopes are entirely with how much their defense improves.

ISU: I have no idea what to expect from them. Was last season a fluke, or can they improve on that season? They will contend, and be a borderline playoff team.
 
mtgrizrule said:
I feel the conference title will come down to the GRIZ and EWU, yet once again. I also feel there is not a clear cut favorite going into the season. Each team has question marks and unknowns going into the season.

For the GRIZ: New coach, staff, system, qb, and tough schedule.
New Coach/staff: As grateful as I am to Delaney for keeping the ship afloat, the train on the tracks, etc, his on the field decisions and strategy were often questionable. Everything I read and hear of Stitt is positive. Most everyone in the college football respects Stitt and thinks very highly of him. I honestly believe Stitt is a HC upgrade for the GRIZ. Also I love how much GRIZ blood is now on the staff.

I cannot help but believe the staff will have every player bleeding GRIZ blood and running through brick walls with pride. As for defense, Gregorak has improved every season at DC. I believe he will continue improving at DC, and the hiring of Coach Stitt is the best thing that could ever happen for Ty's strategy and approach. Coach Stitt strikes me as a head coach who will encourage aggressiveness and confidence from his staff and players. If that is the case, Stitt is the perfect hire to bring out the best in Gregorak. Going into this season, right now the biggest question mark defensively is DL depth. Once again LB's will be the defensive strength. Hard to believe the GRIZ once again will have a great DB unit. At worse the GRIZ DB's will be improved from last season. I expect a big season from the DB's .

Offensively, the GRIZ will be much better as the season progresses, and much more consistent from last season. I really am not too concerned about the offense, new qb etc. The offensive coaching will be top level to build the talent. Also the playcalling will not hinder that talent. A healthy Ellis Henderson alone is huge for the offense. Henderson and Jones are a dynamic duo at WR. That makes the transition much easier for everyone. A healthy Nacarato in the slot and return game is a plus too. The most under rated offensive change is the return of Chad Germer. His return will bring a tougher and nastier attitude for the offensive line. His addition is also a coaching upgrade, in my opinion.

Special teams showed solid improvement by the time last season was finished. I feel the kicking game will be more consistent. The return of Ellis and Nacarato also improves the punt and kick off return game.

Barring major injuries, at worse this is a 3 to 4 loss playoff team. I am thinking a 2 loss and high seeded playoff team is likely.

As for the main competition in the conference, it will be interesting.
EWU: How much can their defense improve? I feel the defense can only be better. How will the loss of VA impact the them? I feel they will not be as explosive without him and will likely be a better clock controlling team, but not score as many points. The offense will be among the best in the conference again. I do feel there will be a dropoff on offense though.

MSU: Like EWU, how much can their defense improve? It cannot get worse. I feel their season will likely be like the last few seasons. MSU has to get past their late season let downs. They will likely be no more than a playoff pretender this season. As good as Prukop was last season, how much better can he get? He was so good last season, it is hard to see the offense doing better than last season. I don't expect a huge improvement in their offense. Their hopes are entirely with how much their defense improves.

ISU: I have no idea what to expect from them. Was last season a fluke, or can they improve on that season? They will contend, and be a borderline playoff team.

mtgrizrule said:
I feel the conference title will come down to the GRIZ and EWU, yet once again. I also feel there is not a clear cut favorite going into the season. Each team has question marks and unknowns going into the season.

For the GRIZ: New coach, staff, system, qb, and tough schedule.
New Coach/staff: As grateful as I am to Delaney for keeping the ship afloat, the train on the tracks, etc, his on the field decisions and strategy were often questionable. Everything I read and hear of Stitt is positive. Most everyone in the college football respects Stitt and thinks very highly of him. I honestly believe Stitt is a HC upgrade for the GRIZ. Also I love how much GRIZ blood is now on the staff.

I cannot help but believe the staff will have every player bleeding GRIZ blood and running through brick walls with pride. As for defense, Gregorak has improved every season at DC. I believe he will continue improving at DC, and the hiring of Coach Stitt is the best thing that could ever happen for Ty's strategy and approach. Coach Stitt strikes me as a head coach who will encourage aggressiveness and confidence from his staff and players. If that is the case, Stitt is the perfect hire to bring out the best in Gregorak. Going into this season, right now the biggest question mark defensively is DL depth. Once again LB's will be the defensive strength. Hard to believe the GRIZ once again will have a great DB unit. At worse the GRIZ DB's will be improved from last season. I expect a big season from the DB's .

Offensively, the GRIZ will be much better as the season progresses, and much more consistent from last season. I really am not too concerned about the offense, new qb etc. The offensive coaching will be top level to build the talent. Also the playcalling will not hinder that talent. A healthy Ellis Henderson alone is huge for the offense. Henderson and Jones are a dynamic duo at WR. That makes the transition much easier for everyone. A healthy Nacarato in the slot and return game is a plus too. The most under rated offensive change is the return of Chad Germer. His return will bring a tougher and nastier attitude for the offensive line. His addition is also a coaching upgrade, in my opinion.

Special teams showed solid improvement by the time last season was finished. I feel the kicking game will be more consistent. The return of Ellis and Nacarato also improves the punt and kick off return game.

Barring major injuries, at worse this is a 3 to 4 loss playoff team. I am thinking a 2 loss and high seeded playoff team is likely.

As for the main competition in the conference, it will be interesting.
EWU: How much can their defense improve? I feel the defense can only be better. How will the loss of VA impact the them? I feel they will not be as explosive without him and will likely be a better clock controlling team, but not score as many points. The offense will be among the best in the conference again. I do feel there will be a dropoff on offense though.

MSU: Like EWU, how much can their defense improve? It cannot get worse. I feel their season will likely be like the last few seasons. MSU has to get past their late season let downs. They will likely be no more than a playoff pretender this season. As good as Prukop was last season, how much better can he get? He was so good last season, it is hard to see the offense doing better than last season. I don't expect a huge improvement in their offense. Their hopes are entirely with how much their defense improves.

ISU: I have no idea what to expect from them. Was last season a fluke, or can they improve on that season? They will contend, and be a borderline playoff team.
mtgrizrule said:
I feel the conference title will come down to the GRIZ and EWU, yet once again. I also feel there is not a clear cut favorite going into the season. Each team has question marks and unknowns going into the season.

For the GRIZ: New coach, staff, system, qb, and tough schedule.
New Coach/staff: As grateful as I am to Delaney for keeping the ship afloat, the train on the tracks, etc, his on the field decisions and strategy were often questionable. Everything I read and hear of Stitt is positive. Most everyone in the college football respects Stitt and thinks very highly of him. I honestly believe Stitt is a HC upgrade for the GRIZ. Also I love how much GRIZ blood is now on the staff.

I cannot help but believe the staff will have every player bleeding GRIZ blood and running through brick walls with pride. As for defense, Gregorak has improved every season at DC. I believe he will continue improving at DC, and the hiring of Coach Stitt is the best thing that could ever happen for Ty's strategy and approach. Coach Stitt strikes me as a head coach who will encourage aggressiveness and confidence from his staff and players. If that is the case, Stitt is the perfect hire to bring out the best in Gregorak. Going into this season, right now the biggest question mark defensively is DL depth. Once again LB's will be the defensive strength. Hard to believe the GRIZ once again will have a great DB unit. At worse the GRIZ DB's will be improved from last season. I expect a big season from the DB's .

Offensively, the GRIZ will be much better as the season progresses, and much more consistent from last season. I really am not too concerned about the offense, new qb etc. The offensive coaching will be top level to build the talent. Also the playcalling will not hinder that talent. A healthy Ellis Henderson alone is huge for the offense. Henderson and Jones are a dynamic duo at WR. That makes the transition much easier for everyone. A healthy Nacarato in the slot and return game is a plus too. The most under rated offensive change is the return of Chad Germer. His return will bring a tougher and nastier attitude for the offensive line. His addition is also a coaching upgrade, in my opinion.

Special teams showed solid improvement by the time last season was finished. I feel the kicking game will be more consistent. The return of Ellis and Nacarato also improves the punt and kick off return game.

Barring major injuries, at worse this is a 3 to 4 loss playoff team. I am thinking a 2 loss and high seeded playoff team is likely.

As for the main competition in the conference, it will be interesting.
EWU: How much can their defense improve? I feel the defense can only be better. How will the loss of VA impact the them? I feel they will not be as explosive without him and will likely be a better clock controlling team, but not score as many points. The offense will be among the best in the conference again. I do feel there will be a dropoff on offense though.

MSU: Like EWU, how much can their defense improve? It cannot get worse. I feel their season will likely be like the last few seasons. MSU has to get past their late season let downs. They will likely be no more than a playoff pretender this season. As good as Prukop was last season, how much better can he get? He was so good last season, it is hard to see the offense doing better than last season. I don't expect a huge improvement in their offense. Their hopes are entirely with how much their defense improves.

ISU: I have no idea what to expect from them. Was last season a fluke, or can they improve on that season? They will contend, and be a borderline playoff team.
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 
Rjones61 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Bisonation said:
yea, VA being gone drops EWU to a #20 in my opinion

Yet this is the 2nd poll that has them in the top 6. :? :?


K. But with JJ gone, star running back graduated, star defensive players graduated, new coach, and a new offensive system, UM shouldn't even be in the top 25.

People said we would suck after Nichols. Then after Bo Levi left. Then after Kaufman left. And now after Vernon has left. They are forgetting that we have the greatest game piece in the conference.

Beau Baldwin.

Bobcats will miss the playoffs when they lose the brawl!
 
Mtgrizrule, ISU is underrated because of 25-30 years of mediocrity(at best). They are relying on a JC QB who hasn't set foot in Idaho. Last year was no fluke. Kramer built this team from scratch. Those true freshmen he had to use early-on, are men, now. Their schedule is favorable(UM, MSU, and EWU at Holt in late season). I see them BSC Champions, outright or tie.
 
statler & waldorf said:
Mtgrizrule, ISU is underrated because of 25-30 years of mediocrity(at best). They are relying on a JC QB who hasn't set foot in Idaho. Last year was no fluke. Kramer built this team from scratch. Those true freshmen he had to use early-on, are men, now. Their schedule is favorable(UM, MSU, and EWU at Holt in late season). I see them BSC Champions, outright or tie.

Exactly why it is hard to know how good they are/will be. Kramer has certainly brought the program to respectability. Now they have to prove they are true conference contenders. The fact that we are discussing them in this says a lot about how well Kramer has done there. :thumb:
 
Convincing the Pokey fan base seems tougher than pósters on this Board. Their best attendance was for CalPoly, but averaging less than 7,000 per game. Seems their fan base is like WWII vets....nearing extinction!
 
Rjones61 said:
Ursa Major said:
Rjones61 said:
K. But with JJ gone, star running back graduated, star defensive players graduated, new coach, and a new offensive system, UM shouldn't even be in the top 25.

People said we would suck after Nichols. Then after Bo Levi left. Then after Kaufman left. And now after Vernon has left. They are forgetting that we have the greatest game piece in the conference.

Beau Baldwin.
Can you name 25 better teams in the FCS?

1. North Dakota State
2. Illinois State
3. Sam Houston State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Villanova
6. Eastern Washington
7. Coastal Carolina
8. Chattanooga
9. New Hampshire
10. Youngstown State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Liberty
13. James Madison
14. Eastern Illinois
15. McNeese State
16. Montana State
17. Idaho State
18. South Dakota State
19. Richmond
20. Eastern Kentucky
21. Harvard
22. Western Carolina
23. Cal Poly
24. Indiana State
25. Northern Arizona

You must either have cooked an ass kicking batch or you are using the patient computers at Eastern State Hospital. Would you like to bet that the Griz don't finish in the top 25? Mr. T can hold the money...
 
Ursa Major said:
Rjones61 said:
Ursa Major said:
Rjones61 said:
K. But with JJ gone, star running back graduated, star defensive players graduated, new coach, and a new offensive system, UM shouldn't even be in the top 25.

People said we would suck after Nichols. Then after Bo Levi left. Then after Kaufman left. And now after Vernon has left. They are forgetting that we have the greatest game piece in the conference.

Beau Baldwin.
Can you name 25 better teams in the FCS?

1. North Dakota State
2. Illinois State
3. Sam Houston State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Villanova
6. Eastern Washington
7. Coastal Carolina
8. Chattanooga
9. New Hampshire
10. Youngstown State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Liberty
13. James Madison
14. Eastern Illinois
15. McNeese State
16. Montana State
17. Idaho State
18. South Dakota State
19. Richmond
20. Eastern Kentucky
21. Harvard
22. Western Carolina
23. Cal Poly
24. Indiana State
25. Northern Arizona

You must either have cooked an ass kicking batch or you are using the patient computers at Eastern State Hospital. Would you like to bet that the Griz don't finish in the top 25? Mr. T can hold the money...

The griz would make the top 25 if they lost every game.
 
Rjones61 said:
Ursa Major said:
Can you name 25 better teams in the FCS?

1. North Dakota State
2. Illinois State
3. Sam Houston State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Villanova
6. Eastern Washington
7. Coastal Carolina
8. Chattanooga
9. New Hampshire
10. Youngstown State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Liberty
13. James Madison
14. Eastern Illinois
15. McNeese State
16. Montana State
17. Idaho State
18. South Dakota State
19. Richmond
20. Eastern Kentucky
21. Harvard
22. Western Carolina
23. Cal Poly
24. Indiana State
25. Northern Arizona

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, wait. You're SERIOUS about that list.
 
So many are missing the point about the rankings over the past32 years, and turning the thread into yet another pissing contest about us versus the Cats. What we should be discussing is the fact that we have lost the respect of the national pollsters as one of the preeminent FCS powers. This is a reality that eludes many posters on here. They want to live in the past rather than the present.

Even more troubling is the fact that, over those 32 years, many of our top rivals for eliteness have left FCS to move up. We should be even MORE dominant now than ever. This shows how far we have slipped.

I am hoping that Stitt can return us to dominance. But the book is still out.
 
Rjones61 said:
Ursa Major said:
Rjones61 said:
Ursa Major said:
Can you name 25 better teams in the FCS?

1. North Dakota State
2. Illinois State
3. Sam Houston State
4. Jacksonville State
5. Villanova
6. Eastern Washington
7. Coastal Carolina
8. Chattanooga
9. New Hampshire
10. Youngstown State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Liberty
13. James Madison
14. Eastern Illinois
15. McNeese State
16. Montana State
17. Idaho State
18. South Dakota State
19. Richmond
20. Eastern Kentucky
21. Harvard
22. Western Carolina
23. Cal Poly
24. Indiana State
25. Northern Arizona

You must either have cooked an ass kicking batch or you are using the patient computers at Eastern State Hospital. Would you like to bet that the Griz don't finish in the top 25? Mr. T can hold the money...

The griz would make the top 25 if they lost every game.

I know you're just trying to stir the hornet's nest, but you're not really envious enough to believe this, are you?

Case in point: 2012. Griz go 5-6 for their first losing season in 26 years, and they finish...unranked.

They hardly lost every game, but they were still unranked. Go figure. In fact, they dropped out of the top 25 after week 5 (they were 2-3 at the time), and never got back in.

The world isn't rigged in Montana's favor. Get a grip.

2012 FCS poll, week by week:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_rankings
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
So many are missing the point about the rankings over the past32 years, and turning the thread into yet another pissing contest about us versus the Cats. What we should be discussing is the fact that we have lost the respect of the national pollsters as one of the preeminent FCS powers. This is a reality that eludes many posters on here. They want to live in the past rather than the present.

Even more troubling is the fact that, over those 32 years, many of our top rivals for eliteness have left FCS to move up. We should be even MORE dominant now than ever. This shows how far we have slipped.

I am hoping that Stitt can return us to dominance. But the book is still out.

2007: Preseason #2
2008: Preseason #8
2009: Preseason #3
2010: Preseason #4
2011: Preseason #10
2012: Preseason #3
2013: Preseason #20
2014: Preseason #7
2015: Preseason #15 (or 17, depending on poll)

So, while it is low (for the Griz), it's not unprecedented. Perhaps we've lost the respect of national posters because we haven't won but one (since vacated) conference title since 2009, haven't played in an NC since 2009, had our first losing season in 2012 (after being ranked #3 in preseason), are starting an untested QB are on our third coach and third offense in 5 years...seems like the pollsters have got it about right.
 
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