Are football coaches with no fall season "essential"

[go96griz]

I think it needs to be asked. I mean what the f....... are they doing? Drawing up plays every day that will never be used? If we are going to a spring season then why not lay off most coaches on staff until say February since we all know the UM budgetary problems. They all got their bonuses for last year. Why can't they accept the same unemployment insurance benefits as others who have had to take leave. It's not like they are professors who actually (maybe) are going to teach classes. It seems to me that it is the "conservative" thing to do to lay these f............... leaches off for a few months.

Who’s going to recruit for the program with all the coaches on furlough?

 

[sdk.catfish]

maroonandsilver wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:09 am
Haslem said last week that some coaches and others in the Department have voluntarily taken salary reductions. He declined to specify names, citing privacy.

I think that is a good start and I think, with some sensitivity to the privacy matters, that this should be promoted. I get that recruiting should not be abandoned but that is only a portion of a coaching positions responsibilities - maybe 33 % (just a guess). So taking a voluntary reduction is not only appropriate but would be a better look for the department. Please remember I did not single out the UM coaching staff as the only recipient of full contract dollars for a job that is impossible to complete under the current scenario. Look at coaches in the Pac 12 or Big 10, where head coaches have multi-million dollar a year contracts, yet are in the same position as FCS coaches - i.e. only able to perform a small percentage of their assigned duties. My point was that in many ways our priorities are just screwed up when elementary teachers are asked to work full time in dangerous conditions and football coaches are getting full pay for doing only a portion of their job, because many of their duties are perceived as unsafe.

 

[PlayerRep]

maroonandsilver wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:09 am
Haslem said last week that some coaches and others in the Department have voluntarily taken salary reductions. He declined to specify names, citing privacy.

I think that is a good start and I think, with some sensitivity to the privacy matters, that this should be promoted. I get that recruiting should not be abandoned but that is only a portion of a coaching positions responsibilities - maybe 33 % (just a guess). So taking a voluntary reduction is not only appropriate but would be a better look for the department. Please remember I did not single out the UM coaching staff as the only recipient of full contract dollars for a job that is impossible to complete under the current scenario. Look at coaches in the Pac 12 or Big 10, where head coaches have multi-million dollar a year contracts, yet are in the same position as FCS coaches - i.e. only able to perform a small percentage of their assigned duties. My point was that in many ways our priorities are just screwed up when elementary teachers are asked to work full time in dangerous conditions and football coaches are getting full pay for doing only a portion of their job, because many of their duties are perceived as unsafe.

Many teachers are working remotely, so that's not dangerous.

 

[kemajic]

I think that is a good start and I think, with some sensitivity to the privacy matters, that this should be promoted. I get that recruiting should not be abandoned but that is only a portion of a coaching positions responsibilities - maybe 33 % (just a guess). So taking a voluntary reduction is not only appropriate but would be a better look for the department. Please remember I did not single out the UM coaching staff as the only recipient of full contract dollars for a job that is impossible to complete under the current scenario. Look at coaches in the Pac 12 or Big 10, where head coaches have multi-million dollar a year contracts, yet are in the same position as FCS coaches - i.e. only able to perform a small percentage of their assigned duties. My point was that in many ways our priorities are just screwed up when elementary teachers are asked to work full time in dangerous conditions and football coaches are getting full pay for doing only a portion of their job, because many of their duties are perceived as unsafe.

Many teachers are working remotely, so that's not dangerous.

Tell that to the parents of kids that have been unsuccessful learning remotely.

 

[PlayerRep]

Many teachers are working remotely, so that's not dangerous.

Tell that to the parents of kids that have been unsuccessful learning remotely.

I think the kids and their parents know that the teachers when the teachers are working remotely.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I haven't read a post on this yet. Wanted to answer 1st. Hell yes, they are very essential! These young men will be going stir crazy without football games! Many of these guys will get bored. They will likely be more tempted by other things and influences. This crap is absolutely horrible for young athletes.

 

[sdk.catfish]

mtgrizrule
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Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:33 pm

I haven't read a post on this yet. Wanted to answer 1st. Hell yes, they are very essential! These young men will be going stir crazy without football games! Many of these guys will get bored. They will likely be more tempted by other things and influences. This crap is absolutely horrible for young athletes.

Pretty damn expensive babysitters don't you think? Just roughly, and I could be wrong $500,000 either way, the budgeted coaching staff must be close to a million per year. So we are paying full salary because of 1. their existing contracts whose duties are not being fully fulfilled and 2. because they are babysitting young men who will be going stir crazy and getting bored and tempted to do bad things? I don't think we do this for ordinary non-football students who might get just as bored and stir crazy do we? Best move would be for the coaching staff to donate a portion of their salary to some charity the can agree upon (how about PPE and sanitation of schools) but despite the good press that could bring I don't see it happening.

 

[CatzWillRise]

Good employers take care of their employees during times of extenuating circumstances.

There is always scouting to do, film to watch, recruits to recruit, drills to evaluate, etc etc. Maybe instead of working 14 hour days maybe they are only working 8 now...

 

[Spanky2]

Cats, I agree. The coaches are important to the school. They didn’t create the virus. Mr. Xi did.