Another look at RB's

[HookedonGriz]

I agree with 30. My problem with Eastwood isn’t the numbers he put up. My problem is his style. With backs, whether they be true freshman or 5th year seniors, it doesn’t take long to see if they have the “it” factor.

PR said above that his numbers might be more Yo/Chase like with better Olines. No doubt there’s some truth in that. But I’d argue his numbers would have been more similar if he had better VISION. I would get so frustrated watching him run into the back of a lineman, while there was a gaping hole to run through one gap over.

I agree he did that a little bit early on, but improved drastically on his cuts and vision as the season progressed. That’s a freshman adjusting to the speed of the game. It took a few games then he got better. I can’t wait for him to make many people here eat their words. Might have to start a list.

I would agree he improved as the season progressed...course, I thought the O-line did too, until the last play of the season...

That last play was awful. I don’t pin any of it on Eastwood. After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I agree with 30. My problem with Eastwood isn’t the numbers he put up. My problem is his style. With backs, whether they be true freshman or 5th year seniors, it doesn’t take long to see if they have the “it” factor.

PR said above that his numbers might be more Yo/Chase like with better Olines. No doubt there’s some truth in that. But I’d argue his numbers would have been more similar if he had better VISION. I would get so frustrated watching him run into the back of a lineman, while there was a gaping hole to run through one gap over.

I agree he did that a little bit early on, but improved drastically on his cuts and vision as the season progressed. That’s a freshman adjusting to the speed of the game. It took a few games then he got better. I can’t wait for him to make many people here eat their words. Might have to start a list.

I would agree he improved as the season progressed...course, I thought the O-line did too, until the last play of the season...

That last play was awful. I don’t pin any of it on Eastwood. After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying: I wouldn't be surprised if we ran that play three times in a row to start the 2019 season.

 

[HookedonGriz]

I agree he did that a little bit early on, but improved drastically on his cuts and vision as the season progressed. That’s a freshman adjusting to the speed of the game. It took a few games then he got better. I can’t wait for him to make many people here eat their words. Might have to start a list.

I would agree he improved as the season progressed...course, I thought the O-line did too, until the last play of the season...

That last play was awful. I don’t pin any of it on Eastwood. After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying: I wouldn't be surprised if we ran that play three times in a row to start the 2019 season.

Ha Lord help us!

 

[bgbigdog]

But if we only had a fullback.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

I would agree he improved as the season progressed...course, I thought the O-line did too, until the last play of the season...

That last play was awful. I don’t pin any of it on Eastwood. After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying: I wouldn't be surprised if we ran that play three times in a row to start the 2019 season.

Ha Lord help us!

you can run that play 100 times in a row and if the you execute, then you get 2-3 yards everytime. It wasn't the play call that was the issue. It was the blown blocks...also the RB does need to hold onto the ball. We ran it 2 times in a row...what was the chances the D was going to expect us to run it 3 times in a row? Little to none. So really we ran a play that the D had 0 expectations to see again. The D didn't do anything outstanding..they just beat the blocks. Also why wouldn't you run it again there. That was our strong side all day, we don't want to run counter or swing on the 2. We had 2 plays to run. Sure we could have ran a fade or something...but I am sure the thought was...run the ball..we either score or gain a yard or so, then have a play from the 1 or less. Football happens the play wasn't executed. Things happen. If we ran a slant or a fade...it could have been picked and then we would say "who runs a fade or a slant at the 1?"

 

[CDAGRIZ]

That last play was awful. I don’t pin any of it on Eastwood. After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying: I wouldn't be surprised if we ran that play three times in a row to start the 2019 season.

Ha Lord help us!

you can run that play 100 times in a row and if the you execute, then you get 2-3 yards everytime. It wasn't the play call that was the issue. It was the blown blocks...also the RB does need to hold onto the ball. We ran it 2 times in a row...what was the chances the D was going to expect us to run it 3 times in a row? Little to none. So really we ran a play that the D had 0 expectations to see again. The D didn't do anything outstanding..they just beat the blocks. Also why wouldn't you run it again there. That was our strong side all day, we don't want to run counter or swing on the 2. We had 2 plays to run. Sure we could have ran a fade or something...but I am sure the thought was...run the ball..we either score or gain a yard or so, then have a play from the 1 or less. Football happens the play wasn't executed. Things happen. If we ran a slant or a fade...it could have been picked and then we would say "who runs a fade or a slant at the 1?"

That play went for a TD seconds earlier with everone playing full tilt. Can't fumble in that situation no matter what blocks are missed.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

I'm not saying, I'm just saying: I wouldn't be surprised if we ran that play three times in a row to start the 2019 season.

Ha Lord help us!

you can run that play 100 times in a row and if the you execute, then you get 2-3 yards everytime. It wasn't the play call that was the issue. It was the blown blocks...also the RB does need to hold onto the ball. We ran it 2 times in a row...what was the chances the D was going to expect us to run it 3 times in a row? Little to none. So really we ran a play that the D had 0 expectations to see again. The D didn't do anything outstanding..they just beat the blocks. Also why wouldn't you run it again there. That was our strong side all day, we don't want to run counter or swing on the 2. We had 2 plays to run. Sure we could have ran a fade or something...but I am sure the thought was...run the ball..we either score or gain a yard or so, then have a play from the 1 or less. Football happens the play wasn't executed. Things happen. If we ran a slant or a fade...it could have been picked and then we would say "who runs a fade or a slant at the 1?"

That play went for a TD seconds earlier with everyone playing full tilt. Can't fumble in that situation no matter what blocks are missed.

Watching how the D sold out on a play up the gut (which means they were expecting it, or something close) keeping the ball was a walk-in for Sneed.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

After watching how the coaches ran the same play (which Choate himself said was very surprising....basically saying we were idiots) and then seeing every single lineman who had a job to do get blown up, that was a big old shit burger.

I'm glad you didn't describe it as a shit dog. Seems like that would attract much more attention from the NCAA's Committee on Infractions.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Ha Lord help us!

you can run that play 100 times in a row and if the you execute, then you get 2-3 yards everytime. It wasn't the play call that was the issue. It was the blown blocks...also the RB does need to hold onto the ball. We ran it 2 times in a row...what was the chances the D was going to expect us to run it 3 times in a row? Little to none. So really we ran a play that the D had 0 expectations to see again. The D didn't do anything outstanding..they just beat the blocks. Also why wouldn't you run it again there. That was our strong side all day, we don't want to run counter or swing on the 2. We had 2 plays to run. Sure we could have ran a fade or something...but I am sure the thought was...run the ball..we either score or gain a yard or so, then have a play from the 1 or less. Football happens the play wasn't executed. Things happen. If we ran a slant or a fade...it could have been picked and then we would say "who runs a fade or a slant at the 1?"

That play went for a TD seconds earlier with everyone playing full tilt. Can't fumble in that situation no matter what blocks are missed.

Watching how the D sold out on a play up the gut (which means they were expecting it, or something close) keeping the ball was a walk-in for Sneed.

I get it. But, I honestly don't think RPOs, or, in this case, RROs, are actually "options" very often at this level.

 

[PlayerRep]

If Griz fans were surprised that the same play was run, and Choate said he was surprised by the same play, then I'm not sure what the big deal is.

Who expects the same play to be run? I didn't and don't.

Was it a surprise to everyone except the Cat interior d-line, or to TG?

Can someone explain what the criticism is?

If everyone expects and expected the same play to be run, and the Griz did that, then I'd understand the criticism.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Ha Lord help us!

you can run that play 100 times in a row and if the you execute, then you get 2-3 yards everytime. It wasn't the play call that was the issue. It was the blown blocks...also the RB does need to hold onto the ball. We ran it 2 times in a row...what was the chances the D was going to expect us to run it 3 times in a row? Little to none. So really we ran a play that the D had 0 expectations to see again. The D didn't do anything outstanding..they just beat the blocks. Also why wouldn't you run it again there. That was our strong side all day, we don't want to run counter or swing on the 2. We had 2 plays to run. Sure we could have ran a fade or something...but I am sure the thought was...run the ball..we either score or gain a yard or so, then have a play from the 1 or less. Football happens the play wasn't executed. Things happen. If we ran a slant or a fade...it could have been picked and then we would say "who runs a fade or a slant at the 1?"

That play went for a TD seconds earlier with everyone playing full tilt. Can't fumble in that situation no matter what blocks are missed.

Watching how the D sold out on a play up the gut (which means they were expecting it, or something close) keeping the ball was a walk-in for Sneed.

actually if you look at the play (if it was an RPO) which when you slow down the film you can see sneed look directly at his read...so it might have been. Sneed's read was the LB on the edge of the line as they shifted the DE in. The LB stayed outside to hold sneed inside so sneed did the right thing and handed it off. Secondly there was a saftey playing on that gap if sneed would have kept it. So they would have forced sneed in a 1-1 with sneed. Once again...the call was fine there was just no execution. sometimes you just get beat on a play and bad things happen. it is what it is

 

[Ursus1]

The oline wasn't just beat on the play they were flat out dominated/manhandled/ bitch slapped. Hope they are spending the next 9 months working so they don't let that happen again.