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Another look at RB's

Ringneck said:
Paytonlives said:
ONE DUDE!!!!

I know you're specifically talking about running backs here, but no one carried that ball more for us last year than Dalton Sneed (131 carries for 675 yards), and he's coming back. So that would mean we're returning our top 2 runners, plus JLM, Sulser, Janacaro, and Graves who carried the ball another 30 times (combined).

I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start. Personally, I'm much more concerned about our offensive line talent and depth than our running back situation.

HE WAS A FRIGGIN FRESHMAN....thanks for reminder ringneck.

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

Yes....o-line is a billion times more important than the back. Put your worries there just like the last....well seems like forever. #grizusedtoproduceNFLolinemen
#waitingforDOLAsucks
#whydoesGermergetapass
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs and at least one fumble as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start.

If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

Just thought I'd update the stats. Yes, perception is everything.
 
SoldierGriz said:
#whydoesGermergetapass

I'm with you on this one. Over the last 4 years, the OL has consistently been an area of concern. I at least see correlation (though I won't jump to causation) between that and Germer's tenure at UM.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
Paytonlives said:
ONE DUDE!!!!

I know you're specifically talking about running backs here, but no one carried that ball more for us last year than Dalton Sneed (131 carries for 675 yards), and he's coming back. So that would mean we're returning our top 2 runners, plus JLM, Sulser, Janacaro, and Graves who carried the ball another 30 times (combined).

I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start. Personally, I'm much more concerned about our offensive line talent and depth than our running back situation.

If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

I totally disagree with this statement about Eastwood. I do not feel he is a good fit for the Hauck offense. He is not quick enough to the hole. Now maybe he can be taught some foot work to speed him up into the hole but I for one do not believe he will ever be a great back like we are accustomed to at Montana, ie... Chase Reynolds, Jordan Canada, Yohancy Humphries, Our Kalispell killer Lex Hilliard etc...
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
Paytonlives said:
ONE DUDE!!!!

I know you're specifically talking about running backs here, but no one carried that ball more for us last year than Dalton Sneed (131 carries for 675 yards), and he's coming back. So that would mean we're returning our top 2 runners, plus JLM, Sulser, Janacaro, and Graves who carried the ball another 30 times (combined).

I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start. Personally, I'm much more concerned about our offensive line talent and depth than our running back situation.

If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

No, that's not true. I was unhappy with Eastwood almost from the start of the season.
 
Ringneck said:
SoldierGriz said:
#whydoesGermergetapass

I'm with you on this one. Over the last 4 years, the OL has consistently been an area of concern. I at least see correlation (though I won't jump to causation) between that and Germer's tenure at UM.

The o-line was pretty good in 2017. Who do you give credit to for that?

Germer came with Stitt, so you can't really blame him for not having o-line seniors on the team last fall.

Do you blame Germer for the o-line injuries and departures that affected last fall? Someone else can probably name all of them off the top of their head.

I thought Germer cobbled together a fairly credible o-line for all or most games this year. Two walk-ons. One player who started the season on d-line and hasn't played o-line at UM.

Perhaps you should be praising Germer for doing such of good job of dealing with multiple injuries and departures. Germer was my MVP coach on the UM coaching staff for last fall.
 
PlayerRep said:
Ringneck said:
SoldierGriz said:
#whydoesGermergetapass

I'm with you on this one. Over the last 4 years, the OL has consistently been an area of concern. I at least see correlation (though I won't jump to causation) between that and Germer's tenure at UM.

The o-line was pretty good in 2017. Who do you give credit to for that?

Germer came with Stitt, so you can't really blame him for not having o-line seniors on the team last fall.

Do you blame Germer for the o-line injuries and departures that affected last fall? Someone else can probably name all of them off the top of their head.

I thought Germer cobbled together a fairly credible o-line for all or most games this year. Two walk-ons. One player who started the season on d-line and hasn't played o-line at UM.

Perhaps you should be praising Germer for doing such of good job of dealing with multiple injuries and departures. Germer was my MVP coach on the UM coaching staff for last fall.

I 100% agree here. Can't understand how anyone can blame Germer. He worked wonders with that oline last year.
 
'68griz said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
Paytonlives said:
ONE DUDE!!!!

I know you're specifically talking about running backs here, but no one carried that ball more for us last year than Dalton Sneed (131 carries for 675 yards), and he's coming back. So that would mean we're returning our top 2 runners, plus JLM, Sulser, Janacaro, and Graves who carried the ball another 30 times (combined).

I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start. Personally, I'm much more concerned about our offensive line talent and depth than our running back situation.

If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

No, that's not true. I was unhappy with Eastwood almost from the start of the season.

In 2018, Eastwood averaged 4.1 per carry, had 9 TD's, lost only 15 yards, lost 1 fumble, and caught 30 passes for 133 yards.

In 2017, Calhoun averaged 4.3 per carry, had 7 TD's, lost only 20 yards, lost 4 fumbles, and caught 13 passes for 84 yards.
 
Germer worked absolute miracles with our O Line last season and is one of the best O Line coaches in the conference if not all of FCS. We are lucky to have him.

Eastwood was an absolute stud for a freshman. His stats back that up as well. Can’t wait to see him kick ass for 3 more years. Doing what he did behind our O Line was damn near miraculous as well.
 
VimSince03 said:
PlayerRep said:
Ringneck said:
SoldierGriz said:
#whydoesGermergetapass

I'm with you on this one. Over the last 4 years, the OL has consistently been an area of concern. I at least see correlation (though I won't jump to causation) between that and Germer's tenure at UM.

The o-line was pretty good in 2017. Who do you give credit to for that?

Germer came with Stitt, so you can't really blame him for not having o-line seniors on the team last fall.

Do you blame Germer for the o-line injuries and departures that affected last fall? Someone else can probably name all of them off the top of their head.

I thought Germer cobbled together a fairly credible o-line for all or most games this year. Two walk-ons. One player who started the season on d-line and hasn't played o-line at UM.

Perhaps you should be praising Germer for doing such of good job of dealing with multiple injuries and departures. Germer was my MVP coach on the UM coaching staff for last fall.

I 100% agree here. Can't understand how anyone can blame Germer. He worked wonders with that oline last year.

That is his job. I assume he also has responsibility for recruiting, building depth, and teaching toughness. He is not new...he is "playing with his guys." We'll see how much he can contribute to RTD starting this season. Jury is out IMO.
 
And, oh by the way, every one of their OL returners would start at UM. Keep in mind that Spencer Blackburn and Kalob Levao are probably back on medical redshirt. Add in Tristen Taylor and Chris Schlicting who the Griz recruited and they have some pretty hefty dudes returning. I only point this out because it shows how much farther the Griz need to go to RTD.
 
bitterrootobserver said:
And, oh by the way, every one of their OL returners would start at UM. Keep in mind that Spencer Blackburn and Kalob Levao are probably back on medical redshirt. Add in Tristen Taylor and Chris Schlicting who the Griz recruited and they have some pretty hefty dudes returning. I only point this out because it shows how much farther the Griz need to go to RTD.

how far?
 
SoldierGriz said:
VimSince03 said:
PlayerRep said:
Ringneck said:
I'm with you on this one. Over the last 4 years, the OL has consistently been an area of concern. I at least see correlation (though I won't jump to causation) between that and Germer's tenure at UM.

The o-line was pretty good in 2017. Who do you give credit to for that?

Germer came with Stitt, so you can't really blame him for not having o-line seniors on the team last fall.

Do you blame Germer for the o-line injuries and departures that affected last fall? Someone else can probably name all of them off the top of their head.

I thought Germer cobbled together a fairly credible o-line for all or most games this year. Two walk-ons. One player who started the season on d-line and hasn't played o-line at UM.

Perhaps you should be praising Germer for doing such of good job of dealing with multiple injuries and departures. Germer was my MVP coach on the UM coaching staff for last fall.

I 100% agree here. Can't understand how anyone can blame Germer. He worked wonders with that oline last year.

That is his job. I assume he also has responsibility for recruiting, building depth, and teaching toughness. He is not new...he is "playing with his guys." We'll see how much he can contribute to RTD starting this season. Jury is out IMO.

He wasn't working with "his guys". He wasn't the coach when seniors were being recruited, and then they all moved on. He didn't cause all of the guys to leave or get hurt.

He did his job, actually quite well.

Let's see you address last year's o-line, and all the guys that got hurt or moved on.

Pls step up and provide something of substance. No opinions. No made up conclusions. Give us some substance for a change.
 
PlayerRep said:
'68griz said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
I know you're specifically talking about running backs here, but no one carried that ball more for us last year than Dalton Sneed (131 carries for 675 yards), and he's coming back. So that would mean we're returning our top 2 runners, plus JLM, Sulser, Janacaro, and Graves who carried the ball another 30 times (combined).

I know that people aren't thrilled about Adam Eastwood as RB1 (neither am I, really), but he had almost 700 total yards and 9 TDs as a RS-freshman. That's a pretty good start. Personally, I'm much more concerned about our offensive line talent and depth than our running back situation.

If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

No, that's not true. I was unhappy with Eastwood almost from the start of the season.

In 2018, Eastwood averaged 4.1 per carry, had 9 TD's, lost only 15 yards, lost 1 fumble, and caught 30 passes for 133 yards.

In 2017, Calhoun averaged 4.3 per carry, had 7 TD's, lost only 20 yards, lost 4 fumbles, and caught 13 passes for 84 yards.

Hey critics. Is .2 yards more per carry worth 3 extra fumbles and 2 less TD's?

I too liked Calhoun more than Eastwood, but look at the facts and stats.
 
argh! said:
bitterrootobserver said:
And, oh by the way, every one of their OL returners would start at UM. Keep in mind that Spencer Blackburn and Kalob Levao are probably back on medical redshirt. Add in Tristen Taylor and Chris Schlicting who the Griz recruited and they have some pretty hefty dudes returning. I only point this out because it shows how much farther the Griz need to go to RTD.

how far?

Well from what I’ve been hearing, 6-7 years from now, especially now that we’ve got a coach that’s winning the recruiting battle against EWoo.
 
PlayerRep said:
PlayerRep said:
'68griz said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
If Eastwood wouldnt have fumbled going in to beat the Cats, nobody is concerned about our RBs. Perception is everything and everyone only remembers the last play.

No, that's not true. I was unhappy with Eastwood almost from the start of the season.

In 2018, Eastwood averaged 4.1 per carry, had 9 TD's, lost only 15 yards, lost 1 fumble, and caught 30 passes for 133 yards.

In 2017, Calhoun averaged 4.3 per carry, had 7 TD's, lost only 20 yards, lost 4 fumbles, and caught 13 passes for 84 yards.

Hey critics. Is .2 yards more per carry worth 3 extra fumbles and 2 less TD's?

I too liked Calhoun more than Eastwood, but look at the facts and stats.

Thanks for compiling those stats. Stats don't tell the whole story because as you said most saw the difference Calhoun seemed to bring last year. However, for Eastwood only being a freshman and having gained all that experience last year, I am excited to see what he brings this year. The growth between freshman year and sophomore year always seems to be the largest, IMO.
 
astutegriz said:
'68griz said:
No, that's not true. I was unhappy with EVERYTHING almost from the start of the my life.

I’ve noticed that about you....

Your change of my comment very definitely is not true. But, believe what you want. It truly does not affect me.
 
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