Am I correct?

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Crazy that PR is connected to Stitt already via his first goldfish in college knowing a dude from their first jobs together, who knows Stitt from when they sat next to eachother in Church when they were young warthogs. Who didnt see that coming

 

[Grizbeer]

If this guy was a Montana guy no one would question him AT ALL. Lets see how Bob does the next few years, i'm reserving all criticism until I see him coaching HIS guys in HIS system. This is a results orientated business I could give a crap what the former players and boosters think, if he wins they all will shut up thats for sure. Winning cures all

I have never understood this line of reasoning. I think coach Stitt is a good coach and will have some good years ahead, but it will take 3 years before "his guys" are in the system and ready to contribute. Then he has a couple good years, leaves, and a new coach comes in, institutes a new system, and we put up with 3 more "transition" years while that new coach gets his system in place, so we can have 2 good years at the end of it? That doesn't seem like a coaching recipe for excellence to me. I understand occasionally you have to make a radical change in coaching philosophy, and I am not a fan of changing coaches very often, but our expectations can't be a BSC championship once or twice every 5 years while the new coach get's his system in place.

 

[catsack]

So are there some posters who don't like coach Stitt because he won't let them close to the program like former coaches did? Now that Gregorak has left was he their last coaching connection left ? Are some of you upset your coaching buddies are gone and now you can't spew your "inside" sources??

Or do you truly feel coach stitt is not capable of running the Grizzly football program???

I look forward to what the next couple years bring and think the program is in good hands but I'm just a casual fan.

You nailed it PR and 75 are pretty butt hurt!

 

[krammer]

If this guy was a Montana guy no one would question him AT ALL. Lets see how Bob does the next few years, i'm reserving all criticism until I see him coaching HIS guys in HIS system. This is a results orientated business I could give a crap what the former players and boosters think, if he wins they all will shut up thats for sure. Winning cures all

this says all you need to know about this tread....

 

[RABIDAWG]

I have never understood this line of reasoning. I think coach Stitt is a good coach and will have some good years ahead, but it will take 3 years before "his guys" are in the system and ready to contribute. Then he has a couple good years, leaves, and a new coach comes in, institutes a new system, and we put up with 3 more "transition" years while that new coach gets his system in place, so we can have 2 good years at the end of it? That doesn't seem like a coaching recipe for excellence to me. I understand occasionally you have to make a radical change in coaching philosophy, and I am not a fan of changing coaches very often, but our expectations can't be a BSC championship once or twice every 5 years while the new coach get's his system in place.

This! Anything below the FBS level is an incubator for the coaching ladder. Get used to it. :roll:

 

[AZGrizFan]

If this guy was a Montana guy no one would question him AT ALL. Lets see how Bob does the next few years, i'm reserving all criticism until I see him coaching HIS guys in HIS system. This is a results orientated business I could give a crap what the former players and boosters think, if he wins they all will shut up thats for sure. Winning cures all

I have never understood this line of reasoning. I think coach Stitt is a good coach and will have some good years ahead, but it will take 3 years before "his guys" are in the system and ready to contribute. Then he has a couple good years, leaves, and a new coach comes in, institutes a new system, and we put up with 3 more "transition" years while that new coach gets his system in place, so we can have 2 good years at the end of it? That doesn't seem like a coaching recipe for excellence to me. I understand occasionally you have to make a radical change in coaching philosophy, and I am not a fan of changing coaches very often, but our expectations can't be a BSC championship once or twice every 5 years while the new coach get's his system in place.

Nor can they be BSC championships and deep playoff runs with a FOURTH coaching change/system implementation in 7 years. Think about that. These 5th year graduating seniors were recruited by Pflu, transitioned to Delaney, and then to Stitt....that's gotta have some heads spinning....

 

[kemajic]

Personally, I'm pretty neutral (mixed) on Stitt so far, I saw some good and some not so good. I want to see more good in the future. After all, he is the first Griz HC to win a playoff game in their first year since Joe Glenn.

The booster criticism I hear is more focused on his arrogance (My offense can beat any defense), refusal to adjust to what the defense is giving, and low priority on a running game. He has a lot of "I" rather than "we" that can be a turnoff as well. They see him as all about Stitt. They are also upset that he didn't work better with TG and keep him happy here. Some are really pissed and calling Haslam. It's clear he has polarized Griz Nation; I'm with others in that success on the field will cover up a lot of warts; it worked for BH.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

If this guy was a Montana guy no one would question him AT ALL. Lets see how Bob does the next few years, i'm reserving all criticism until I see him coaching HIS guys in HIS system. This is a results orientated business I could give a crap what the former players and boosters think, if he wins they all will shut up thats for sure. Winning cures all

I have never understood this line of reasoning. I think coach Stitt is a good coach and will have some good years ahead, but it will take 3 years before "his guys" are in the system and ready to contribute. Then he has a couple good years, leaves, and a new coach comes in, institutes a new system, and we put up with 3 more "transition" years while that new coach gets his system in place, so we can have 2 good years at the end of it? That doesn't seem like a coaching recipe for excellence to me. I understand occasionally you have to make a radical change in coaching philosophy, and I am not a fan of changing coaches very often, but our expectations can't be a BSC championship once or twice every 5 years while the new coach get's his system in place.

Nor can they be BSC championships and deep playoff runs with a FOURTH coaching change/system implementation in 7 years. Think about that. These 5th year graduating seniors were recruited by Pflu, transitioned to Delaney, and then to Stitt....that's gotta have some heads spinning....

Well we had a coach that won the BS championship every year he was here pretty much, and he left to go to UNLV and we had the chance to hire him back but we didn't. Personally i'm more a fan of the Bobby ball approach it has shown to be the best way to do business in the FCS. NDSU has a MASSIVE line and a great defense and consistently beats up on smaller teams like we used to do. We decided to go a different direction once Bobby left and now are even more committed to that direction with Stitt. We have to see how it will pan out. I'm reserving all criticism on Stitt till I see more.

 

[1972]

I think that it's pretty normal for some ex players and current players not to all like the coach. Every level of coaching has this from pro on down to high school. In life I think that's its pretty normal for everyone to not be happy. When a new coach is hired, it's even more so.

 

[stubbins]

What is "a lot"? The man has coached a long time...5 guys, 10 guys, 50 guys, 1,500 guys?

My impression is that most former players from the past couple decades are not excited about Stitt. Stitt wasn't a Griz guy. Stitt hasn't reached out to many. Mixed season. Don't like the recent tweet. I only know what about 25 of them think, so I don't have a full sample.

Got ya...I thought you were speaking of former Mines players...ex-Griz need to remember Read was not a "Griz Guy" either. And to really have hurt feelings because they haven't been called by him???? Come on man!

Don't think the ex players expect or care if Stitt contacts them, but big donors and others who are consistent decent donors feel differently. Do you think those donors are stepping up big to donate now? I don't know, but I doubt it.

Read came when Griz football pretty much sucked. It's been alot different in the past 20 years.

Serious Question: Do big donors donate because they love Griz football and want to help out (along with tax implications, I'm sure)? Or, do they donate because they believe it gets them some level of "ownership"...?

 

[kemajic]

Serious Question: Do big donors donate because they love Griz football and want to help out (along with tax implications, I'm sure)? Or, do they donate because they believe it gets them some level of "ownership"...?

Donors are not a homogeneous group; I suspect there is a broad range of reasons. Some may try to leverage their support; others simply provide it out of loyalty.

 

[griz5700]

My impression is that most former players from the past couple decades are not excited about Stitt. Stitt wasn't a Griz guy. Stitt hasn't reached out to many. Mixed season. Don't like the recent tweet. I only know what about 25 of them think, so I don't have a full sample.

So it is 25 guys that really don't know him.....and one reason is because he isn't a "Griz Guy"....seems to me one of the reasons he was hired was because he wasn't a "Griz Guy".....

Yes, perhaps he was hired in part because he wasn't a Griz guy. If he doesn't do very well in the near future, I assume he and Haslam will be run out of town. People like you supporting him and Haslam aren't going to win the day. Hopefully, he'll be successful.

I am supporting him because he is the coach of the Montana Grizzlies.....Time will tell if the hire works or not, but I am giving him more than 1 year.....a playoff year....before I make a judgement....fair enough...

Fair enough.

I honestly wish I could feel better about him and the future of the Griz, but I don't.

Stitt needs to man up -- For example, whining about having to drive 4K miles around the state or how his son asked him what he wants for Christmas, and he replied "a day off". Gawd. That shit makes me want to throw up. That's the life of every D1 HC. Man up.

 

[UMGriz75]

The booster criticism I hear is more focused on his arrogance (My offense can beat any defense), refusal to adjust to what the defense is giving, and low priority on a running game. He has a lot of "I" rather than "we" that can be a turnoff as well.

I can't listen to his press conferences anymore. It is all jargon. I expected him to treat the media and Griz fans with some intelligence and respect, but it's just not there. Not that it distinguishes him from most coaches at press conferences, but that's the point. His style does not distinguish him; although his penchant for secrecy does somewhat.

I can't listen to presidential debates of either party for the same reasons; stock phrases of empty rhetoric. But he does say things that are a bit "out there" such as "my offense can beat any defense" and then we see things like this:

MSU beat Chadron State, 33-6 in 2012, and was sort of a laughingstock for even playing them because we refer to these teams as "high school teams," but then Chadron State beat "Mines" in the same year, 20-14. That was a 4-5 season for Coach Stitt. All his own recruits, the "solid players," his own strategy in place for over a dozen years, the outstanding staff. Western New Mexico (a school with an undergraduate population of 2,800) then plonked School of Mines, 54-28 in the same year. Western New Mexico ended its season with a 4-7 record.

Well, if he can beat "any defense," Chadron State and Western New Mexico ought to qualify. Seriously. These are colleges with enrollments not much larger than Billings West High School.

And he managed that with "His Guys in His System!"

Can you imagine how awful 2012 would have been if he had been coaching somebody else's recruits, you know, the ones with the low IQs that couldn't figure out his system?

It is not arguable that the UM Griz are the best athletes he has ever coached, and far better than any he has ever recruited, from a much higher quality recruiting pool than he has ever had. Has he risen to the level of the players and the Conference? Well, that's the question, isn't it? And that one is arguable, at least for a couple more years.

 

[bgbigdog]

Personally, I'm pretty neutral (mixed) on Stitt so far, I saw some good and some not so good. I want to see more good in the future. After all, he is the first Griz HC to win a playoff game in their first year since Joe Glenn.

The booster criticism I hear is more focused on his arrogance (My offense can beat any defense), refusal to adjust to what the defense is giving, and low priority on a running game. He has a lot of "I" rather than "we" that can be a turnoff as well. They see him as all about Stitt. They are also upset that he didn't work better with TG and keep him happy here. Some are really pissed and calling Haslam. It's clear he has polarized Griz Nation; I'm with others in that success on the field will cover up a lot of warts; it worked for BH.

After five years of Pflu & Delaney, I would agree Stitt's quite an assault on the senses. Clearly overestimated, underestimated and misjudged some things that impacted all the bravado he brought to the job. Ego as reflected by the "if I can make it @ Mines, I can make it here" way of thinking probably took the biggest hit. Might turn out to be a good thing. No doubt there will be a lot of analysis, reflection and adaptation in his planning process for the coming season. I have no doubt he gets the scope of the effort better today than he did. Who knows how it plays out, just hoping that there's a lot of what was learned that shows up on the field and off here on out.

 

[grzz]

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[grizcountry420]

Crazy that PR is connected to Stitt already via his first goldfish in college knowing a dude from their first jobs together, who knows Stitt from when they sat next to eachother in Church when they were young warthogs. Who didnt see that coming

PR is the biggest fluffer around..

 

[Grizbeer]

If this guy was a Montana guy no one would question him AT ALL. Lets see how Bob does the next few years, i'm reserving all criticism until I see him coaching HIS guys in HIS system. This is a results orientated business I could give a crap what the former players and boosters think, if he wins they all will shut up thats for sure. Winning cures all

I have never understood this line of reasoning. I think coach Stitt is a good coach and will have some good years ahead, but it will take 3 years before "his guys" are in the system and ready to contribute. Then he has a couple good years, leaves, and a new coach comes in, institutes a new system, and we put up with 3 more "transition" years while that new coach gets his system in place, so we can have 2 good years at the end of it? That doesn't seem like a coaching recipe for excellence to me. I understand occasionally you have to make a radical change in coaching philosophy, and I am not a fan of changing coaches very often, but our expectations can't be a BSC championship once or twice every 5 years while the new coach get's his system in place.

Nor can they be BSC championships and deep playoff runs with a FOURTH coaching change/system implementation in 7 years. Think about that. These 5th year graduating seniors were recruited by Pflu, transitioned to Delaney, and then to Stitt....that's gotta have some heads spinning....

I am totally with you on this, I am not advocating for a coaching change in any way, not would I expect one. Stitt overall had a successful first year, and just missed on getting the Griz their first BSC banner since 2009. I think Stitt will be very successful here, and more likely to move on to better opportunities. Last season he showed that he can be flexible and make changes to improve the success of the team, and he knows next year he needs to be a better coach, and do a better job of preparing the team every week. While this team will be better with guys who fit Stitt's system in the future, if he had recognized the shortfalls with running his system with the players he had, and made the changes earlier in the year the Griz likely would have been BSC champs this year. He didn't need "his players" to be BSC Champs this year, or get to the playoffs and win a game. Win the Weber State game this this team was likely a seed in the playoffs.

I am confident and excited about the future under Stitt. I have no problem with Stitt making the roster and coaching changes he needs to get the players he needs and the buy-in he has to have, that's his job. I think it will be a fun offense to watch and they are going to score a lot of points and win a lot of games. But when Stitt get's hired by an FBS school and moves on I hope the next coach they hire is more like Joe Glenn who keeps the Cadillac on the road.

I guess my point is, sometimes for the sake of a successful program a coach needs to adjust to the players he has while working towards the program he wants. Tearing off the bandaid year 1 to implement a new system with players you don't feel are capable of running it doesn't do much good if few of the contributors are back next year to learn from the prior year.

 

[brewskis]

Jesus, anyone not behind this guy can just take Gregorak's lead and buy some blue and gold.

He piss-pounds EWU and MSU, goes 2-1 against the MV including one of the most thrilling wins in Washington grizzly. Is currently pulling together the best recruiting class in the nation, and everyone is still more than happy to put on their pseudo-tin foil hat and try to find a reason to not root for Stitt.

This is the best head coach we've had in 10+ years. I'm willing to give this some time, if you're not....go log on to wombatnation and cream your pants over their new coaching staff.

But he's not a "Griz guy". :lol:

Haha that is the worst excuse in the world (I know you're joking tho AZ). There are very few qualified griz guys out there, I was glad we got someone fresh from the outside.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Personally, I'm pretty neutral (mixed) on Stitt so far, I saw some good and some not so good. I want to see more good in the future. After all, he is the first Griz HC to win a playoff game in their first year since Joe Glenn.

The booster criticism I hear is more focused on his arrogance (My offense can beat any defense), refusal to adjust to what the defense is giving, and low priority on a running game. He has a lot of "I" rather than "we" that can be a turnoff as well. They see him as all about Stitt. They are also upset that he didn't work better with TG and keep him happy here. Some are really pissed and calling Haslam. It's clear he has polarized Griz Nation; I'm with others in that success on the field will cover up a lot of warts; it worked for BH.

The folks who didn't want Stitt are sounding off at anything they don't like about his style of coaching and ownership of the job. They'd be saying they don't like his cockiness, arrogance, confidence etc. even if we were in the Chipper this year. (And we would be in the Chipper this year if we had NDSU's O and D lines' size, strength and speed). I have one criticism of Stitt, which showed in his frustrations on the field, is that he didn't anticipate the difficulty and resistance he ultimately faced in bringing a new system to entrenched players and entrenched holdover coaches. Stitt had the favor of coaching a team full of bright minds whose aptitudes at learning, not skills of playing, earned them their spots on the team. It's one thing to be beat on a play by an opponent that is bigger, faster and stronger than you. It's another thing to be beat because you don't understand what you see, or don't run the proper route or make the proper throw, or don't call the proper run or throw in a game that you showed you could do in practice. And boosters who don't understand that offensive adjustments are made at the line on each play don't get what Stitt is trying to do, and why the roster QB's who weren't recruited to run his offense, are struggling. These QB were all freshmen in his system this year. Its surprising they did as well as they did.

This phenomenon of uneasiness is seen all the time in business when new management comes in and the workers and low level managers are now held accountable for things they weren't in the past. I give the kids on this team more credit that they will act like adults and get on board, and that the "mutiny reports" are just emotional knee-jerk responses of boosters with bruised egos.

 

[Bear Axed]

Jesus, anyone not behind this guy can just take Gregorak's lead and buy some blue and gold.

He piss-pounds EWU and MSU, goes 2-1 against the MV including one of the most thrilling wins in Washington grizzly. Is currently pulling together the best recruiting class in the nation, and everyone is still more than happy to put on their pseudo-tin foil hat and try to find a reason to not root for Stitt.

This is the best head coach we've had in 10+ years. I'm willing to give this some time, if you're not....go log on to wombatnation and cream your pants over their new coaching staff.

THIS ......

but, then again the only thing I feel entitled to as a booster.....
Is posting kitty pic's