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RainierGriz

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With a game last week in Greely, CO at 4,675’ and a game this weekend in Flagstaff at 6,880’, our players may have better conditioning when they return to Missoula at 3,100’. I know two hours of football likely wouldn’t have any impact on conditioning, but thought it was funny that we play at two higher altitude stadiums in back to back weeks.
 
as a former somewhat competitive distance runner. Missoula is at a pretty good elevation in that going up to even 6880 is not going to be a factor. In order to get benefits from training at higher elevation you would need to train there a minimum of 2 weeks and more like 4 weeks to get the hemoglobin gains associated with higher elevation training. There is some studies that show that if going from low elevation to high elevation to compete if you can not be there for several weeks it is best to get there no more than a day or two ahea of the event....
 
retiredpopo said:
as a former somewhat competitive distance runner. Missoula is at a pretty good elevation in that going up to even 6880 is not going to be a factor. In order to get benefits from training at higher elevation you would need to train there a minimum of 2 weeks and more like 4 weeks to get the hemoglobin gains associated with higher elevation training. There is some studies that show that if going from low elevation to high elevation to compete if you can not be there for several weeks it is best to get there no more than a day or two ahea of the event....
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Ah good to know! Probably explains why NAU seems to always have a top cross country program!
 
RainierGriz said:
With a game last week in Greely, CO at 4,675’ and a game this weekend in Flagstaff at 6,880’, our players may have better conditioning when they return to Missoula at 3,100’. I know two hours of football likely wouldn’t have any impact on conditioning, but thought it was funny that we play at two higher altitude stadiums in back to back weeks.
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What game have you watched that took only two hours? High school?

It is a physical challenge to play at 6950'. Good to have depth.

https://tinyurl.com/2yuzydhu
 
kemajic said:
RainierGriz said:
With a game last week in Greely, CO at 4,675’ and a game this weekend in Flagstaff at 6,880’, our players may have better conditioning when they return to Missoula at 3,100’. I know two hours of football likely wouldn’t have any impact on conditioning, but thought it was funny that we play at two higher altitude stadiums in back to back weeks.
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What game have you watched that took only two hours? High school?

It is a physical challenge to play at 6950'. Good to have depth.

https://tinyurl.com/2yuzydhu
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I was only referring to the game clock. Unless a game goes to over time... 60 minutes of football is played.
 
RainierGriz said:
kemajic said:
What game have you watched that took only two hours? High school?

It is a physical challenge to play at 6950'. Good to have depth.

https://tinyurl.com/2yuzydhu
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I was only referring to the game clock. Unless a game goes to over time... 60 minutes of football is played.
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Two hours is a lot of game clock..
 
RainierGriz said:
retiredpopo said:
as a former somewhat competitive distance runner. Missoula is at a pretty good elevation in that going up to even 6880 is not going to be a factor. In order to get benefits from training at higher elevation you would need to train there a minimum of 2 weeks and more like 4 weeks to get the hemoglobin gains associated with higher elevation training. There is some studies that show that if going from low elevation to high elevation to compete if you can not be there for several weeks it is best to get there no more than a day or two ahea of the event....
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Ah good to know! Probably explains why NAU seems to always have a top cross country program!
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And why Doug Brown was such a great Griz distance runner. Trained running up the Beartooth Pass.
 
kemajic said:
RainierGriz said:
I was only referring to the game clock. Unless a game goes to over time... 60 minutes of football is played.
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Two hours is a lot of game clock..
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I was referring to both the game at unc and our game this weekend at nau. That is two hours of football.
 
RainierGriz said:
kemajic said:
Two hours is a lot of game clock..
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I was referring to both the game at unc and our game this weekend at nau. That is two hours of football.
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Record the game and watch only the action and the game is about 20 minutes.
 
reinell30 said:
RainierGriz said:
I was referring to both the game at unc and our game this weekend at nau. That is two hours of football.
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Record the game and watch only the action and the game is about 20 minutes.
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MAX. It's one of the reasons that I laugh when people talk about "tough" coaches making their guys run the M. It's a great punishment but it does nothing to make you a better player physically. You need explosive strength for six seconds or less. Those people are probably the same ones who talk about DOLA and RTD and "back in the old days". Those are cute catch phrases but they didn't mean anything then and they don't mean anything now.
 
SaskGriz said:
reinell30 said:
Record the game and watch only the action and the game is about 20 minutes.
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MAX. It's one of the reasons that I laugh when people talk about "tough" coaches making their guys run the M. It's a great punishment but it does nothing to make you a better player physically. You need explosive strength for six seconds or less. Those people are probably the same ones who talk about DOLA and RTD and "back in the old days". Those are cute catch phrases but they didn't mean anything then and they don't mean anything now.
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BS. It helps your lungs, strength and stamina in the 4th quarter. You have to be in top shape to play 60 min of college football at your best level. Personal experience, not opinion.
 
SaskGriz said:
reinell30 said:
Record the game and watch only the action and the game is about 20 minutes.
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MAX. It's one of the reasons that I laugh when people talk about "tough" coaches making their guys run the M. It's a great punishment but it does nothing to make you a better player physically. You need explosive strength for six seconds or less. Those people are probably the same ones who talk about DOLA and RTD and "back in the old days". Those are cute catch phrases but they didn't mean anything then and they don't mean anything now.
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You shut yer whore mouth, damn you!
 
I know. Practices should require those goddamned face masks be worn this week. Players will get accustomed to less oxygen with each breath. Not scientific, but what the hell. My cousin agrees with me.....:wtf: :lol:
 
retiredpopo said:
as a former somewhat competitive distance runner. Missoula is at a pretty good elevation in that going up to even 6880 is not going to be a factor. In order to get benefits from training at higher elevation you would need to train there a minimum of 2 weeks and more like 4 weeks to get the hemoglobin gains associated with higher elevation training. There is some studies that show that if going from low elevation to high elevation to compete if you can not be there for several weeks it is best to get there no more than a day or two ahea of the event....
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This.
Another runner here... They'd need to spend much more time at elevation. And the old adage is "live high, train low," not "train high." The benefits of elevation come from increasing the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood over time and then exertion at a high level at low elevation to stress the body for growth/development.

Great concept, but it doesn't really work the other way around.

Go Griz!
 
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