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All the FCS playoff possibilities...

HelenaHandBasket said:
Igotgoodsources said:
I was never saying it was an actual criteria to the process. Im saying its on the table, un spoken, in the selection room.
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So to double back to a question I asked you earlier, are you saying that you have been in the selection room during the process? Or is this purely based on speculation?
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:thumb: Yes, to confirm... money has absolutely nothing (Zip/Zero/Nada) to do with the selection process and how teams get selected to be part of the 24 team bracket. It is not part of the criteria, nor it is talked about. There is no unwritten rule, etc. The "NCAA" doesn't come in and tell the selection committee... hey gosh, we could make a little bit of money here if you include teams "A", "D" and "Z".
 
Brother Bear said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Igotgoodsources said:
I was never saying it was an actual criteria to the process. Im saying its on the table, un spoken, in the selection room.
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So to double back to a question I asked you earlier, are you saying that you have been in the selection room during the process? Or is this purely based on speculation?
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:thumb: Yes, to confirm... money has absolutely nothing (Zip/Zero/Nada) to do with the selection process and how teams get selected to be part of the 24 team bracket. It is not part of the criteria, nor it is talked about. There is no unwritten rule, etc. The "NCAA" doesn't come in and tell the selection committee... hey gosh, we could make a little bit of money here if you include teams "A", "D" and "Z".
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Selling some florida land? Get real... its almost always about money.
 
Not when it comes to the selection of the 24 teams in the playoff field. 10 of the teams are automatic bids. Then the committee selects the next 14 teams based on the outlined criteria. (Again none of which have anything to do with money). Not a single one of them.

Then they seed the top 8 teams. Then they make the bracket again based on the handbook.

Potential to make money only comes into play when looking at who the host school would be for that game. So that is exactly why you would see a school like Montana not have to go to a school like San Diego. In that case, San Diego not being a seed, would be all about the money. That is why Montana is going to be a host school most of the time when they are playing a team who is not a "seed".

Money has absolutely nothing to do with the selection of the 24 teams who make the field. If that was the case why would they even give auto bids to conferences like the Pioneer etc. You could pick the 24 teams based off of gate revenue throughout the year, lol
 
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ncaa_fcs/status/931193669587292161[/tweet]

Sorry if this already exists somewhere in here already. #sorrynotsorry
 
Brother Bear said:
Not when it comes to the selection of the 24 teams in the playoff field. 10 of the teams are automatic bids. Then the committee selects the next 14 teams based on the outlined criteria. (Again none of which have anything to do with money). Not a single one of them.

Then they seed the top 8 teams. Then they make the bracket again based on the handbook.

Potential to make money only comes into play when looking at who the host school would be for that game. So that is exactly why you would see a school like Montana not have to go to a school like San Diego. In that case, San Diego not being a seed, would be all about the money. That is why Montana is going to be a host school most of the time when they are playing a team who is not a "seed".

Money has absolutely nothing to do with the selection of the 24 teams who make the field. If that was the case why would they even give auto bids to conferences like the Pioneer etc. You could pick the 24 teams based off of gate revenue throughout the year, lol
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The Auto bid was given to the Pioneer league when the tourney went to 24... Only seemed right.

You can regurgitate all the BS the committee tries to sell... doesn't mean a thing come Saturday night when they are choosing. Trust me if it come down to a team that will have 2000 fans at their game or UM.. UM gets the bid everytime. IE any tie will be given to the Griz and yes money talks, no matter what the committee publicly says.
 
bgbigdog said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ncaa_fcs/status/931193669587292161[/tweet]

Sorry if this already exists somewhere in here already. #sorrynotsorry
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Interesting quote:
Once you get the field and once you've set the seeds, the bracketing is really straightforward because it's a regional and it's on a bid process (host sites involving games of two unseeded teams). You basically have a 400-mile radius (to first match teams) and teams in the same league cannot play one another in the first round if they meet during the regular season. So you'll have exceptions to that - you'll have some conferences where they don't play during the regular season. By our principles, the committee is obligated to put those two teams together in a first-round matchup if they fall within that mileage radius. That part's pretty straightforward. And then at some point in time, you have an outlier and you have to have somebody travel.
 
Paytonlives said:
Interesting quote:
Once you get the field and once you've set the seeds, the bracketing is really straightforward because it's a regional and it's on a bid process (host sites involving games of two unseeded teams). You basically have a 400-mile radius (to first match teams) and teams in the same league cannot play one another in the first round if they meet during the regular season. So you'll have exceptions to that - you'll have some conferences where they don't play during the regular season. By our principles, the committee is obligated to put those two teams together in a first-round matchup if they fall within that mileage radius. That part's pretty straightforward. And then at some point in time, you have an outlier and you have to have somebody travel.
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Almost GUARANTEES a UM/SUU matchup in St. George. No other team in the BSC outside of 400 miles is making the playoffs. WSU will get the cupcake San Diego.
 
Except that if SUU is a seed, seeded teams don't play in week one. If SUU beats Northern Arizona, I think they get a seed. I also believe the Big Sky can still get four teams into the playoffs. If the Griz are not a seed, they will not send the Griz on the road in round 1. That is where money comes into play. Once you are in the field, then they can look at revenue, history of attendance, quality of experience/atmosphere for the players and fans. If the Griz win this weekend, great chance of playing at home after thanksgiving. I'm still hoping for the San Diego match-up but reality looks like a team from the MSVC.
 
Brother Bear said:
Except that if SUU is a seed, seeded teams don't play in week one. If SUU beats Northern Arizona, I think they get a seed. I also believe the Big Sky can still get four teams into the playoffs.
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True. No mock playoffs have shown SUU as a seed...they aren't in the "top 10" released by the committee...still a possibility though.

And I'm not sure how we get four unless they take a 7-4 EWU.
 
Possible Seed out of Big Sky: Southern Utah and Weber State

My order of teams for playoff selection assuming games this weekend for BSC would be as follows:

1. Southern Utah
2. Weber State
3. Montana
4. Northern Arizona or EWU
5. EWU or Northern Arizona
6. Sacramento State

I think a legit case could be made for 5 out of Big Sky. My personal belief is after the games this weekend 4 from Big Sky get in.
 
Brother Bear said:
Possible Seed out of Big Sky: Southern Utah and Weber State

My order of teams for playoff selection assuming games this weekend for BSC would be as follows:

1. Southern Utah
2. Weber State
3. Montana
4. Northern Arizona or EWU
5. EWU or Northern Arizona
6. Sacramento State

I think a legit case could be made for 5 out of Big Sky. My personal belief is after the games this weekend 4 from Big Sky get in.
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No way we get 5 teams in and probably a very small chance (maybe 20%) we get even 4. The big sky conference is ranked 3rd behind mvfc and caa and has been getting no love in the polls all year. If anyone gets 5 it's the mvfc and depending on games this weekend that may not even happen.

We need SUU to beat NAU
We need ndsu to blow up Illinois st
We need sdsu to blow up usd as well
We need other help from any bubble team loss

Usd would be 7-4 with a loss but will have lost 4 of last 5 making them a tough pick for the committee.
 
USD rolling mid season and I thought a decent chance to win out, bison carved em up and SDSU may do same. 7-4 OUT

Big sky could gain a 4th if so....an outside chance for any 7-4 team here
 
Paytonlives said:
HookedonGriz said:
Nicholls is probably out with their loss to a 5-5 SeLa team putting them at 8-3. Helps the Griz!
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Yes... Their wins are really bad teams
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I meant to look Nicholls up when they edged into the top-25, but never got around to it until now. With one exception, your statement is definitely true. The exception was McNeese (8-2), which they played at home in their opening game … and eked out a win, 37-35. It was all downhill from there. They lost to what turned out to be only a so-so FBS team, Texas A&M (currently 6-4). After winning against a so-so team from the pitiful SWAC (Prairie View A&M, now 5-5), they got obliterated by Sam Houston State (8-2), 66-17. Then their winning “streak” began … against teams that all have losing records (the best, at 4-6, was Stephen F. Auston). In fact the combined record for those six teams (wins) is 13-48.

They did not play Central Arkansas, and when they played a team with a non-losing record (SE Louisiana was 5-5 going in) … they lost.

Not an impressive resume.
 
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