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[mthoopsfan]

Nor has AZ offered me a pass like he tried for you. Nor do I use the name IPlayedTheGame. Nor do I make a habit of bashing players or coaches. There are some differences here.

No one has bashed a coach more than you have bashed the Griz BB coach...yet, you have hoops in your new name.

You bash or bashed Britt frequently.

Your hands ain't clean Playa.

I try not to bash the players...may have a time or 2. I have criticized position groups and certainly coaching staffs. Big deal.

I didn’t bash Britt. I spoke accurately and was correct in what I said. I said mainly one thing, many times, about the new women's coach. I didn’t like how he cut 6 players immediately, without even talking to most of them in person. He made space for 2 frosh and a transfer who ended up making no impact and almost no minutes this past season. You frequently bash coaches and some players. You can’t even own up to what you do. And most of the time, you are wrong.

 

[SoldierGriz]

No one has bashed a coach more than you have bashed the Griz BB coach...yet, you have hoops in your new name.

You bash or bashed Britt frequently.

Your hands ain't clean Playa.

I try not to bash the players...may have a time or 2. I have criticized position groups and certainly coaching staffs. Big deal.

I didn’t bash Britt. I spoke accurately and was correct in what I said. I said mainly one thing, many times, about the new women's coach. I didn’t like how he cut 6 players immediately, without even talking to most of them in person. He made space for 2 frosh and a transfer who ended up making no impact and almost no minutes this past season. You frequently bash coaches and some players. You can’t even own up to what you do. And most of the time, you are wrong.

I am rarely wrong. People can decide for themselves whether you bashed Britt...
https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?p=1583746&hilit=Britt#p1583746

There are other threads where you did more of the same.

Sure I bash coaches...big deal. They are paid to win football games...public employees. The staff certainly earned some criticism after last season.

I rarely bash players...try hard not to. Position group criticism...sure, but has much to do with the staff.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I didn’t bash Britt. I spoke accurately and was correct in what I said. I said mainly one thing, many times, about the new women's coach. I didn’t like how he cut 6 players immediately, without even talking to most of them in person. He made space for 2 frosh and a transfer who ended up making no impact and almost no minutes this past season. You frequently bash coaches and some players. You can’t even own up to what you do. And most of the time, you are wrong.

I am rarely wrong. People can decide for themselves whether you bashed Britt...
https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?p=1583746&hilit=Britt#p1583746

There are other threads where you did more of the same.

Sure I bash coaches...big deal. They are paid to win football games...public employees. The staff certainly earned some criticism after last season.

I rarely bash players...try hard not to. Position group criticism...sure, but has much to do with the staff.

You are often wrong. What I said about Britt in the link was completely accurate. How many times did you bash Petek?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

When was the last time we had three, actually capable, DI talent-level QBs on our FCS roster in Missoula, Montana? I think it would be pretty difficult to get three of them, tell two they are sitting indefinitely, and have them both stay around. So, what we get at our FCS program are some Montana Class AA standouts who could end up facing a defense with more speed and skill than they’ve ever faced in a game…unless they get some reps against our defense in practice. I’m no coach, but it kind of makes sense to me.

How in the world do other FCS teams get 2 very capable QBs on their rosters?

Why can't the Griz? One of the great mysteries over the past several years IMO.

I think KB is a solid 3.

Dual QB systems could have something to do with it.

 

[SoldierGriz]

I am rarely wrong. People can decide for themselves whether you bashed Britt...
https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?p=1583746&hilit=Britt#p1583746

There are other threads where you did more of the same.

Sure I bash coaches...big deal. They are paid to win football games...public employees. The staff certainly earned some criticism after last season.

I rarely bash players...try hard not to. Position group criticism...sure, but has much to do with the staff.

You are often wrong. What I said about Britt in the link was completely accurate. How many times did you bash Petek?

Never bashed ap when he played. I only bashed him after he became a felon for dealing coke and then throwing tantrums over a cell phone. Dude's a douche.

 

[SoldierGriz]

How in the world do other FCS teams get 2 very capable QBs on their rosters?

Why can't the Griz? One of the great mysteries over the past several years IMO.

I think KB is a solid 3.

Dual QB systems could have something to do with it.

Some teams, sure. Didn't UNDSU put Stick in when Wentz got hurt...and they didn't miss a beat?

There are probably many examples of teams like the Griz...QB 1 goes down...not good.

But, seems many elite teams plug in their 2 and keep rolling.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Dual QB systems could have something to do with it.

Some teams, sure. Didn't UNDSU put Stick in when Wentz got hurt...and they didn't miss a beat?

There are probably many examples of teams like the Griz...QB 1 goes down...not good.

But, seems many elite teams plug in their 2 and keep rolling.

I know it might seem that way, but on teams with a definitive QB1 and QB2, there is usually a noticeable drop off in passing offenses. Dual QBs systems? Not as much. Teams that hand off 70% of the game? Not so much. Putting in a backup and not missing a beat is the exception. It happens, but it’s exceptional. If we expect the exceptional in every aspect, we gonna have a bad time as fans. Especially now with the portal.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Some teams, sure. Didn't UNDSU put Stick in when Wentz got hurt...and they didn't miss a beat?

There are probably many examples of teams like the Griz...QB 1 goes down...not good.

But, seems many elite teams plug in their 2 and keep rolling.

I know it might seem that way, but on teams with a definitive QB1 and QB2, there is usually a noticeable drop off in passing offenses. Dual QBs systems? Not as much. Teams that hand off 70% of the game? Not so much. Putting in a backup and not missing a beat is the exception. It happens, but it’s exceptional. If we expect the exceptional in every aspect, we gonna have a bad time as fans. Especially now with the portal.

All true. But, sure has been a thorn in the Griz side. They gotta close the gap between QB1 and 2.

 

[kemajic]

Dual QB systems could have something to do with it.

Some teams, sure. Didn't UNDSU put Stick in when Wentz got hurt...and they didn't miss a beat?

There are probably many examples of teams like the Griz...QB 1 goes down...not good.

But, seems many elite teams plug in their 2 and keep rolling.

You cited one example. What is your definition of "many elite teams?"

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I know it might seem that way, but on teams with a definitive QB1 and QB2, there is usually a noticeable drop off in passing offenses. Dual QBs systems? Not as much. Teams that hand off 70% of the game? Not so much. Putting in a backup and not missing a beat is the exception. It happens, but it’s exceptional. If we expect the exceptional in every aspect, we gonna have a bad time as fans. Especially now with the portal.

All true. But, sure has been a thorn in the Griz side. They gotta close the gap between QB1 and 2.

I don’t disagree, but probably very difficult to do when we’re not in the era of “wait for your turn” anymore. Hypothesis: on average, the more successful FCS programs of late are run first, run often, pass almost never, for a reason. The reason being that it’s very unlikely to get two great passing QBs to stick around at the FCS level, and even less likely to get three serviceable QBs to do so.

This is why if we’re going to be a passing team, I strongly believe we should target “not quite FBS ready” QBs out of HS from far-flung areas with the pitch that they (a) will likely get game experience, and (b) can transfer up if they kill it. But, for whatever reason, we mainly recruit HS QBs who have never faced a college-ready secondary whose highlight tapes are a collection of bombs behind slow DBs, and thus they require “development” to be effective in DI when it might be too late. Just my opinion. Not a coach.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Some teams, sure. Didn't UNDSU put Stick in when Wentz got hurt...and they didn't miss a beat?

There are probably many examples of teams like the Griz...QB 1 goes down...not good.

But, seems many elite teams plug in their 2 and keep rolling.

You cited one example. What is your definition of "many elite teams?"

I'll cite more when you answer why you think Vlidak is tougher/more resilient than the past few QB1s.

Something you have zero evidence of...

 

[SoldierGriz]

All true. But, sure has been a thorn in the Griz side. They gotta close the gap between QB1 and 2.

I don’t disagree, but probably very difficult to do when we’re not in the era of “wait for your turn” anymore. Hypothesis: on average, the more successful FCS programs of late are run first, run often, pass almost never, for a reason. The reason being that it’s very unlikely to get two great passing QBs to stick around at the FCS level, and even less likely to get three serviceable QBs to do so.

This is why if we’re going to be a passing team, I strongly believe we should target “not quite FBS ready” QBs out of HS from far-flung areas with the pitch that they (a) will likely get game experience, and (b) can transfer up if they kill it. But, for whatever reason, we mainly recruit HS QBs who have never faced a college-ready secondary whose highlight tapes are a collection of bombs behind slow DBs, and thus they require “development” to be effective in DI when it might be too late. Just my opinion. Not a coach.

Good post. Would love to see the Griz run it down other teams throats! Is the key to the chipper IMO.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You cited one example. What is your definition of "many elite teams?"

I'll cite more when you answer why you think Vlidak is tougher/more resilient than the past few QB1s.

Something you have zero evidence of...

How did the starting QB going down, work for the 49ers in the playoffs? I think Purdy had started about 8 or 9 games before he got hurt.

"49ers' Deebo Samuel confident his team is better than Eagles, says NFC title loss was due to injuries"

https://apple.news/ArjDGjnr2RDKiFN-KNgMTsQ

You have zero evidence that Vidlak is not more resilient than the past few qb's. Has Vidlak had any injuries so far in college?

 

[SoldierGriz]

I'll cite more when you answer why you think Vlidak is tougher/more resilient than the past few QB1s.

Something you have zero evidence of...

How did the starting QB going down, work for the 49ers in the playoffs? I think Purdy had started about 8 or 9 games before he got hurt.

"49ers' Deebo Samuel confident his team is better than Eagles, says NFC title loss was due to injuries"

https://apple.news/ArjDGjnr2RDKiFN-KNgMTsQ

You have zero evidence that Vidlak is not more resilient than the past few qb's. Has Vidlak had any injuries so far in college?

Purdy was QB 3...behind Lance and Garoppolo. Both got hurt prompting his entry...thanks for making my point.

How did Alabama do when Tua replaced Hurts?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I for one can't wait until this staff can recruit and develop a high school QB without giving them any reps. The sunk cost of wasting reps on guys that don't pan out has to stop.

There are QBs on the roster who will never see live game action. They are not good enough to play D1 football.

Directly tied to recruiting. Reps for anyone who will never see the field...have zero chance...are wasted.

QB 1, 2, and in a pinch 3...all need to be capable. Griz don't have them and haven't for a long time. Scout team QB seem to generally get the job done.

Argument can be made KB is a good 3.. who is the 2?

So you want them to develop without reps...makes total sense.

 

[garizzalies]

You don’t know poop Lebowski.
Huot can play.
Is there anyone else around here getting as sick of Private Bubcat as me?
He’s like a No Fear t-shirt with a typo

Don't be soft.

You forgot the typo.
Do I still have to thank you for your service when the only service I know from you is the douchy service you provide on egriz?
Even when I am sick of the service?

 

[mthoopsfan]

How did the starting QB going down, work for the 49ers in the playoffs? I think Purdy had started about 8 or 9 games before he got hurt.

"49ers' Deebo Samuel confident his team is better than Eagles, says NFC title loss was due to injuries"

https://apple.news/ArjDGjnr2RDKiFN-KNgMTsQ

You have zero evidence that Vidlak is not more resilient than the past few qb's. Has Vidlak had any injuries so far in college?

Purdy was QB 3...behind Lance and Garoppolo. Both got hurt prompting his entry...thanks for making my point.

How did Alabama do when Tua replaced Hurts?

Purdy started 8 or 9 games and was the starter. Would have been the starter for next season, had he not gotten hurt.

So, your point was that losing Purdy late in the playoffs didn't hurt the 49ers? Another example of you being completely out to lunch.

Edit: Tua and Hurts. Yes, that worked great. It would be nice if the Griz had 2 QB's, every year, who would both become starting qb's in the NFL. I agree that should be our goal.

Humphrey filled in fine for Sneed.

Lance has never started a game for the 49ers. He's hardly a starter.

The Cats have 2 good qb's for their offense. Even they would prefer to have TD Tommy.

Are you like some Cat posters? Your backups are better than your starters.

Sometimes backups are close to the no. 1 guy and do well, and often times they don't.

 

[SoldierGriz]

There are QBs on the roster who will never see live game action. They are not good enough to play D1 football.

Directly tied to recruiting. Reps for anyone who will never see the field...have zero chance...are wasted.

QB 1, 2, and in a pinch 3...all need to be capable. Griz don't have them and haven't for a long time. Scout team QB seem to generally get the job done.

Argument can be made KB is a good 3.. who is the 2?

So you want them to develop without reps...makes total sense.

No, I want QBs on the roster who have the potential to see the field and carry the team if required. Turn around, the point passed you.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Purdy was QB 3...behind Lance and Garoppolo. Both got hurt prompting his entry...thanks for making my point.

How did Alabama do when Tua replaced Hurts?

Purdy started 8 or 9 games and was the starter. Would have been the starter for next season, had he not gotten hurt.

So, your point was that losing Purdy late in the playoffs didn't hurt the 49ers? Another example of you being completely out to lunch.

Humphrey filled in fine for Sneed.

Lance has never started a game for the 49ers. He's hardly a starter.

The Cats have 2 good qb's for their offense. Even they would prefer to have TD Tommy.

Are you like some Cat posters? Your backups are better than your starters.

Sometimes backups are close to the no. 1 guy and do well, and often times they don't.

Good grief...Purdy was only the starter because Lance and Jimmy G got hurt. He was QB 3 to start the season. He carried that team. When they had to go to QB 4...yes, problem. Can't think of ANY team that might excel if QB 4 had to start a game.

Back up QB should be fully capable of carrying the team...with minimal drop off.

Speaking of cat posters...didn't you cheer for the cats until the 90s?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Yes, you SHOULD thank him for his service.

Mocking someone’s military service means you’ve already lost the argument.

Having been in the military does not give the person a pass to be a jerk in real life or on a message board, in my view. Anyone who acts like Soldier does at times on egriz can be mocked or criticized, in my view. "Kim", you have my support. By the way, my former Army Ranger son, who fought in Iraq twice and got a big hole in him on his first deployment, doesn't think much of the thank you-for-your-service phrase. He also thinks shooters deserve more respect and appreciation than desk clerks and paper pushers. I will see what my West Point nephew who is now in Ranger School, thinks of the phrase.

Never said it did. But the fact he was in the service has zero to do with whether he/she is a douche or not. And purposely mocking military service tells me you (collective you) don’t have an argument that you can support with facts so you go for the emotional attack.