The bigger question is what do we call the 4th and 5th year players? Seniors and super seniors? Do we revert to simple numbers? Bigger question than thinking we’re replacing HS recruits lol.
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Age based rule to be implemented
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By that logic they must think players like Solomon Tulio-whatever have ruined the career of several HS recruits.
We might be talking about different things. I’m talking about a recruit that graduates HS early to enroll FT in college in January of what would have been his senior year of HS. Clock starts then, right? Can’t do team activities as a part time student, right? By January of year 5, his clock stops, right? If there is a late playoff game…I’m just thinking of anomalies where it could come up, not saying it’s a huge problem.
mthoopsfan
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Because some are capable of playing early and some aren’t. In any event, there will be fewer frosh recruited now under the 5 year to play rule. But that doesn’t mean that early arrivals won’t be encouraged and welcomed.
Now I understand what RP was saying and agree with him. Plus he showed he has much better info on the subject than the rest of us. I am glad he got to answer the questions, and not you. I suspected that I didn’t understand what he was saying initially.
mthoopsfan
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Well, one less player got to start for Griz because of him and his circumstances.
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If, and only if, he was counted to hard roster caps all the way through, downstream, system wide there was a player who didn’t get a spot. Only so many rooms at the inn.
But it wasn’t necessarily a HS signee(s) (that is where HHB is spot on). It could’ve been: a high school signee, a transfer, a current underclassman who got processed out, or a walk-on who never got the opportunity. HHB’s position is that those other categories will be affected enough to cancel out the extra year of eligibility will have on HS recruit opportunities, and we can’t say he’s wrong yet. We just have to see.
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While I have you, what do you think of BK’s outdated decision to go after HS recruits more than Hauck? I thought going after transfers was the future.
I can’t answer for hoops, but I think at our FCS level, HS recruiting could become even more interesting and important than before. I always thought the portal could create an opportunity for lower levels to get HS recruits they wouldn’t have had a shot at before if they sold it right. I think the new eligibility rules could increase those opportunities.While I have you, what do you think of BK’s outdated decision to go after HS recruits more than Hauck? I thought going after transfers was the future.
I believe you are correct.
mthoopsfan
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What you said is not correct. Nothing is going to cancel out the reduction of scholarships offered to high school players. Nobody in the know is saying that.
I don’t think so either. I’m trying to give people the benefit of the doubt somewhat.
In some odd world, it’s possible (not probable) that every single player who exercises his 5th year, where he would’ve played 4 otherwise, is offset by someone departing the system for some other reason other than running out of eligibility (in perpetuity) such that the number of HS recruit opportunities remains unchanged forever. That’s the only way it has no effect on the number of HS opportunities available system wide. I don’t see it happening, but some people disagree.
mthoopsfan
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I don't know what BK is doing. I'm a snowbird, a world traveller, a writer of mini-books and mini-writings, a lake person, a daydreamer, a big mouth on egriz, etc. I have not been following recruiting closely, and I don't have time for that. Way too busy.While I have you, what do you think of BK’s outdated decision to go after HS recruits more than Hauck? I thought going after transfers was the future.
Note that he was recruiting and signing high school players before the new rule was proposed. What BK has done will have to be judged after the number of high school signees is known. Gemini says that for 2026, UM has 20 high school players and 24 transfers coming in, and that is probably before the several summer transfers. Going after transfers is the future. Compare UM transfer numbers to MSU. MSU will soon start falling behind, if it doesn't change course.
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mthoopsfan
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Sure, almost anything is possible in theory, but I don't operate in that alternate reality. I operate in what is going on and going to happen. And I see no reason to give Helena the benefit of the doubt for anything. He doesn't deserve it.
In a weird way, going after future transfers out of HS might be (a bigger part of) the future at our level, lol.
GriznMN
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They have been saying that about crypto for the last 15 years. It's always 5 year away. Do you realize the lift it would take to put insurance on a blockchain?
I’ll take the falling behind we’ve been doing, working pretty well so far.
GriznMN
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Stop falling so far behind that you win national championships
That may be, but attrition for those other reasons will, in part and in effect, open up spots for HS signees, as it always has since the beginning of college sports. I don’t think it will be anywhere near enough to offset the entirety of the 5th year’s effect on would’ve-been HS signees as a whole. And I’m almost certain that whatever the effect is will not be limited to 2027, because that’s just math.
Really, the only thing I am 100% certain about is that we will sign a high schooler and someone on eGriz will say, “huh I thought the new eligibility rule meant that we wouldn’t sign high schoolers anymore”, that person will feel self-satisfied and “correct”, and I will do my level best not to disabuse him or her of that notion.
mthoopsfan
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I said "soon start". Can you not read, and understand that that means at some point in the future?
