AD letter

[George Ferguson]

Bahhhaaaa, Teton Cat you are such a lair, there was at least 15 on the field after the game by my count, mostly with out-of-state lettermans jackets on. No fricken Griz assistant said that after the game. Good lord..

And Bear Pause, I totally agree with you, and that's why come February, NO FAN, including Peytonlives, who does an awesome job of following recruiting, will be able to look at the 2013 Griz signing class and say recruiting is down because of this season. That won't be known until 2015 or so when those kids are either impact players on their not. So all this, recruiting is going to suffer talk is BS, because no one knows until those kids are asked to play meaningful snaps in real games. PERIOD.

 

[stubbins]

Bahhhaaaa, Teton Cat you are such a lair, there was at least 15 on the field after the game by my count, mostly with out-of-state lettermans jackets on. No fricken Griz assistant said that after the game. Good lord..

And Bear Pause, I totally agree with you, and that's why come February, NO FAN, including Peytonlives, who does an awesome job of following recruiting, will be able to look at the 2013 Griz signing class and say recruiting is down because of this season. That won't be known until 2015 or so when those kids are either impact players on their not. So all this, recruiting is going to suffer talk is BS, because no one knows until those kids are asked to play meaningful snaps in real games. PERIOD.

chill out hav....I think most people are concerned about recruiting next year if what transpired this season happens again....also, chill out.

 

[Teton Cat]

Whoa!!!! HavGriz.....don't get your panties in a wad so fast. Just telling you what's on BN on the recruiting thread....he also said that there would be a bunch of recruits coming on November 30...so if you know so much.....let's see you name some names that were there? Hmmm....Didn't think so.

 

[stubbins]

Whoa!!!! HavGriz.....don't get your panties in a wad so fast. Just telling you what's on BN on the recruiting thread....he also said that there would be a bunch of recruits coming on November 30...so if you know so much.....let's see you name some names that were there? Hmmm....Didn't think so.

what a fucking tool...you called him out for not answering your question before you posted it...stupid fucking scat fan

 

[George Ferguson]

yes, i can just look at kids standing in the endzone and know their names. all i said was i counted about 15 kids standing with the red shirts in the south endzone after the game. if they weren't recruits, i guess they were just random-ass out-of-state kids with field credentials that no one else can get lmao. maybe they were the griz lacrosse team....lmfao

 

[Teton Cat]

Yeah....they were from the Lacrosse team all right....I didn't know you followed Rocky Boy so close!!! They could have been Cat recruits since there were a few at the game....I think the Cat poster, Team 10 has way higher credentials than a Hill County Player Rep wannabee.... :lol:

 

[Spanky]

havgrizfan....are these recruits you mention FCS level recruits or NAIA level recruits? Are you convinced that the Griz talent will allow UM to compete against the top 5 Big Sky Conference teams next year and beyond?

 

[Grizbacker1]

Oh, and I'd be willing to pitch in to buy Delaney out if that's what it takes.

Me too!

Typical message board BS! You guys aren't going to write a big check and you know it, which is exactly why you are so quick to say it. Hate to break the news to you, but your $20 isn't going to get it done.

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

The posters that said the $$ isn't there to pay for 3 coaches and 2 AD's are correct. Egrizzers buying out a contract, now that is funny shit! :lol:

 

[GrizJD]

Buddy of mine in Philly sent me this link. Think we could write a similiar song here- Andy and Delaney rhyme.

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[Gaeilge1]

It's still early postseason and alot of things may change. While it won't come from the AD or from Royce's office I wouldn't be surprised to see Mick retire before the first of the year or by mid January. One thing is certain and that is that it will be his choice. If he stays there will have to be some changes in the coaching staff.

I thought after the SUU debacle, and still maintain that the Special Teams coach has got to go. Outside of the secondary the ST play was inconsistent all year and actually got worse in the second half of the season.

We all knew that the secondary could be a problem due to inexperience, but the front seven, despite the very good year they had, lost contain on quarterbacks with a regularity we haven't seen here is some time. QB's from Eastern, SUU, ND, MSU were all able to beat the blitz and the rush much too often. That put extreme pressure on the secondary and contributed significantly to at least 3 losses. While I'm not advocating a change in Defensive Coordinator I do suggest a change in the overall defensive scheme. This defense wa great at stopping the run, but simply could not defend the pass. There has to be better balance next year.

The Offense was simply that in a number of games, offensive. This was due to coaching. Too many times the Offense played very well to great for a half and then got completely away from what they were doing in the second half. I contend that the Offensive Coaches played to maintain a lead, (not to lose) as compared to playing to win for a full four quarters. I can't recall the number of times in the second half of games that that play selection was obvious, first down run; second down pass; third down try to convert on third and long. Every once in a while you would see a first down pass and a second down run but third was always trying to get out of trouble. I rarely saw three running plays in a row in the second half of any game this season, despite the dominance of the run game in the first half of most games. This led to additional pressure on a very young defense. The OC and the unit coaches need to get much better at making in-game adjustments, not just half-time adjustments. If they can't do that, it will be time for a new offensive staff. It may be now!

 

[poorgriz]

An assistant Grizzly football coach mentioned that there was onlyone recruit at WA-Griz for the Cat Grizzly game....wonder why so few??

This is true, I heard the same thing... and in fact someone took a picture of him. Very young but supposed to be a phenom:

 

[Potomac Griz]

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

Wasn't comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno. Funny how you left out Utah state though... I was talking about how odd it is that the ticket prices for those teams which are traditionally very very good is lower than the Griz season tickets. You know damn well our ticket prices are incredibly high for the FCS level, and higher than many many FBS teams that are very good.

It just seems kind of odd with the incredibly high ticket prices we always seem to be lacking the funds to do anything like pay the coaches well enough to keep them, avoid bludgeoning our fans to death with 48348 ads a minute, charging to listen to the coaches show online, etc.

Anyway, that's a subject for a different thread.

I do agree with you that there's no way the Griz will buy out Delaney's remaining contract, and even said so in other posts. Haslam is just trying to put a happy face on a rough season. That's all he can do since his hands are pretty much tied on this, and the decision for the 2 year contract was made before he was AD.

 

[Grizbacker1]

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

Wasn't comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno. Funny how you left out Utah state though... I was talking about how odd it is that the ticket prices for those teams which are traditionally very very good is lower than the Griz season tickets. You know damn well our ticket prices are incredibly high for the FCS level, and higher than many many FBS teams that are very good.

It just seems kind of odd with the incredibly high ticket prices we always seem to be lacking the funds to do anything like pay the coaches well enough to keep them, avoid bludgeoning our fans to death with 48348 ads a minute, charging to listen to the coaches show online, etc.

Anyway, that's a subject for a different thread.

I do agree with you that there's no way the Griz will buy out Delaney's remaining contract, and even said so in other posts. Haslam is just trying to put a happy face on a rough season. That's all he can do since his hands are pretty much tied on this, and the decision for the 2 year contract was made before he was AD.

care to wager say $1,000 on your claim? Delaney will be there HC, unless something unforeseen would happen, say health related. I would hope none of you Delaney haters would wish for that to happen. That fact of the matter is UM can't afford to pay 3 coaches at the same time, get real.

as for ticket prices, try taking Econ 101. Ever heard of supply and demand? The tickets are sold at the price they are, which means they are NOT overpriced, get a clue

 

[Potomac Griz]

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

Wasn't comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno. Funny how you left out Utah state though... I was talking about how odd it is that the ticket prices for those teams which are traditionally very very good is lower than the Griz season tickets. You know damn well our ticket prices are incredibly high for the FCS level, and higher than many many FBS teams that are very good.

It just seems kind of odd with the incredibly high ticket prices we always seem to be lacking the funds to do anything like pay the coaches well enough to keep them, avoid bludgeoning our fans to death with 48348 ads a minute, charging to listen to the coaches show online, etc.

Anyway, that's a subject for a different thread.

I do agree with you that there's no way the Griz will buy out Delaney's remaining contract, and even said so in other posts. Haslam is just trying to put a happy face on a rough season. That's all he can do since his hands are pretty much tied on this, and the decision for the 2 year contract was made before he was AD.

care to wager say $1,000 on your claim? Delaney will be there HC, unless something unforeseen would happen, say health related. I would hope none of you Delaney haters would wish for that to happen. That fact of the matter is UM can't afford to pay 3 coaches at the same time, get real.

as for ticket prices, try taking Econ 101. Ever heard of supply and demand? The tickets are sold at the price they are, which means they are NOT overpriced, get a clue

Are you drunk?

Wager $1000 on what claim? I was agreeing with you that Delaney's contract would not be bought out and that he'd be our HC next year too.

As for ticket prices of course I know why they are high, because people will pay it. Because people will pay it does not mean that people can't have the opinion that it's over priced.

When you see App State at $175, North Dakota State at $110, MSU at $72, Georgia Southern at $125, and then see ours at $252, it's a little annoying. Add in the bombardment of sandwich eating contests and other bullshit that takes away from the atmosphere, and then sprinkle in a dose of D2 team for one of the home games and you got some annoyed, but still paying fans.

I would also hope that your ECON 101 class would teach that if you keep raising the prices eventually you're going to find that tipping point (especially if the product quality goes down, which I'm not saying it is), where people will not be as willing to shell out the big bucks. With the way the economy is, the job market is in Missoula, and the shitty wages out here, I'm worried that they are getting dangerously close to chasing off some fans that might look at the high prices, and no playoffs and think there are better things for them to spend the big bucks on.

Anyway, like I said, that's a subject for another thread... I hope you've slept it off by the time you read this post so you don't try to wager me $1000 on something I'm agreeing with you on again

 

[Uncle Si]

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

Wasn't comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno. Funny how you left out Utah state though... I was talking about how odd it is that the ticket prices for those teams which are traditionally very very good is lower than the Griz season tickets. You know damn well our ticket prices are incredibly high for the FCS level, and higher than many many FBS teams that are very good.

It just seems kind of odd with the incredibly high ticket prices we always seem to be lacking the funds to do anything like pay the coaches well enough to keep them, avoid bludgeoning our fans to death with 48348 ads a minute, charging to listen to the coaches show online, etc.

Anyway, that's a subject for a different thread.

I do agree with you that there's no way the Griz will buy out Delaney's remaining contract, and even said so in other posts. Haslam is just trying to put a happy face on a rough season. That's all he can do since his hands are pretty much tied on this, and the decision for the 2 year contract was made before he was AD.

care to wager say $1,000 on your claim? Delaney will be there HC, unless something unforeseen would happen, say health related. I would hope none of you Delaney haters would wish for that to happen. That fact of the matter is UM can't afford to pay 3 coaches at the same time, get real.

as for ticket prices, try taking Econ 101. Ever heard of supply and demand? The tickets are sold at the price they are, which means they are NOT overpriced, get a clue

Sorry GB1, but the demand is not what it used to be. 2 games I couldn't go to because of health reasons I honestly could not GIVE them away. Listed on Facebook 'free', nope nobody wanted them not even free.

 

[kurtismichael]

For those of you comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno, you forgot one thing, stadium capacity. I know that might not seem like a big deal to you Internet Einsteins, but have someone do the math for you and see where the numbers stack up. There is a HUGE revenue discrepancy.

Wasn't comparing UM to Stanford, Boise, and Reno. Funny how you left out Utah state though... I was talking about how odd it is that the ticket prices for those teams which are traditionally very very good is lower than the Griz season tickets. You know damn well our ticket prices are incredibly high for the FCS level, and higher than many many FBS teams that are very good.

It just seems kind of odd with the incredibly high ticket prices we always seem to be lacking the funds to do anything like pay the coaches well enough to keep them, avoid bludgeoning our fans to death with 48348 ads a minute, charging to listen to the coaches show online, etc.

Anyway, that's a subject for a different thread.

I do agree with you that there's no way the Griz will buy out Delaney's remaining contract, and even said so in other posts. Haslam is just trying to put a happy face on a rough season. That's all he can do since his hands are pretty much tied on this, and the decision for the 2 year contract was made before he was AD.

care to wager say $1,000 on your claim? Delaney will be there HC, unless something unforeseen would happen, say health related. I would hope none of you Delaney haters would wish for that to happen. That fact of the matter is UM can't afford to pay 3 coaches at the same time, get real.

as for ticket prices, try taking Econ 101. Ever heard of supply and demand? The tickets are sold at the price they are, which means they are NOT overpriced, get a clue

Sorry GB1, but the demand is not what it used to be. 2 games I couldn't go to because of health reasons I honestly could not GIVE them away. Listed on Facebook 'free', nope nobody wanted them not even free.

I have 5 season tickets. I needed to offload 3 of them for the ISU game. Listed them the week before on Craigs List and eGriz. Not one phone call or email response. A ton of tickets were listed on both sites for that game. Took me hour and half standing a the foot bridge to sell them for way under face value. One guy offered me $5 for two. There were also more people than I ever remember seeing selling tickets this year before games. I realize it was ISU the Griz were playing but never had trouble before selling tickets for face value to any Griz game, even the Western States.

 

[Bear Pause]

Can Haslam really be that short-sighted not to realize we need a new coaching staff? Please for the love of all things Grizzly, find a new coaching staff! If not, I see back to back losing seasons in our future. Griz football is in a very perilous position and one more season like this could send them reeling for years. Please don't let that happen Kent!

Kent must mot be too smart. He should understand that the baby will be thrown out with the bath water when the Griz have another ho-hum season next year with this lame duck coaching staff, and continue the decline after a couple of horrible recruiting years under this staff with no future here. Kent will be blamed for not righting the ship, and will be excused from the position. He was a bad hire, just like Delaney, which should be obvious now that he has welcomed Delaney/staff back with open arms for 2013.

I hate to say it, but the Cats are already kicking our butts in Montana recruiting this year. The commitment to the Cats from the kid in Manhattan was the latest knife in our back.

 

[griz4life]

I'm sure Kent Haslam is doing exactly what his boss wants him to do. No more. No less. I sure don't like it, but just because his actions aren't in line with the preferences of fans doesn't mean he's short-sighted, or stupid, or at risk of losing his job.

Fans tend to project powers on the athletic director that the AD simply does not have. Haslam has no power to step in and fire a coach when the president wants the coach retained. Haslam doesn't have the power to offer contract deals or raise ticket prices, or even craft a schedule beyond what the president wants. If the president wants the Griz to play two body bag games a year, Haslam will schedule the games. If the president wants to cut athletic department funding in response to declining ticket revenue, Haslam will cut the budget. Is he a yes man? Yep. And when he decides to go against the president, he will be moving on, just like Jim O'Day.

The best example of how much autonomy the AD has at Montana is the financial report Jim O'Day prepared annually for the president. In it, O'Day routinely warned of the difficulties of running an athletic department at a high performance level while revenue created by that success was siphoned off. He also talks about the challenges of a flat revenue stream. Football, for all of its success is collecting as much revenue as it possibly can with nowhere to go but down.
Yet the president's handling of athletics went unchanged.
Haslam is just an employee doing what he's told.