GrizBacker04
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grizpack said:
Grizback -- I was referring to maroonandsilver's comment about Hogan. The Kennedy hire was pretty bad, without a doubt. He could recruit a bit, but was a HORRIBLE coach.
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AD finalist names starting to surface
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Grizback -- I was referring to maroonandsilver's comment about Hogan. The Kennedy hire was pretty bad, without a doubt. He could recruit a bit, but was a HORRIBLE coach.
What kind of AD finalists are these? Is the search only in Missoula County? We should be doing a national search for the AD position rather than what it is beginning to look like....another back room sham in the tradition of George Dennison. Come on Engstrom....this is your opportunity to do the search properly and make it a true national search resulting in some good qualified candidates for the job. Don't close this search....open it up and do it right!!!!
Brint....I hope you are correct. This is an important hire..especially, after the recent events. We simply must get the very best person we can get and there are many who will be interested in the position. Do you know anything about the process? Are we running ads in national publications? Frankly, I have zero confidence in Engstrom.
Hogan was a bust as most "insiders" know. Blow hard. Forget Hogan as he did not apply and will not be considered...
Haslam would be good. Not sure Royce will pick him. He sure beats John Johnson hands down.
Two others, both men are on the list. More on this "who stuff later"......I tend to like the two remaining also.
Haslam would be good. Not sure Royce will pick him. He sure beats John Johnson hands down.
Two others, both men are on the list. More on this "who stuff later"......I tend to like the two remaining also.
John Johnson is responsible for the addition ($100?) to Wazzu's stadium. He was the youngest D1 AD in NCAA history when he took the EWU job at 28. In spite of very poor support in the land of the Utes, Aggies and BYU he got the stadium built at Weber. Moos knows what a great $ raiser he has in Johnson and does not want to lose him. He is very good with boosters and very smart. But, I actually think he is trying harder for AD jobs at FBS schools. The UM job would be less money than he now makes and would be sort of a step back for him.
I'll gladly take over AD duties for Six figures and a chance to move home. Any new coaching hires will be current asst. coaches ,( that is how UofM does it) I'll not allow some of the current egriz posters within 500 yards of Wa Griz or any players.(alpha can be my security detail, him and hammer), and the new softball team will be named the gwennetes ( just a little pr move to smooth things over with missouliangrizfnz said:Hell I'll take the job. Pay me a cool 6 figures on a multi year deal and I'll hire who ever Royce tells me to.
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).darts said:
Jesus Christ, WSU doesn't even credit Johnson with the $80 million expansion of its stadium, which boosters were first asked to contribute to in 1999. He gets credit for adding press boxes and sky boxes to stewart stadium in 2000, but so what? That's a $5 million project-- and his only one of that size during his time there. Montana has made bigger improvements than that about every five years. Johnson hasn't done anything like that.
Hell, WSU hasn't done anything like that. It took WSU 13 years to go from field turf to its current skybox construction, despite strong attendance.
mtgrizrule
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Spanky said:
I do understand those who want the new AD to be from outside. I respect that side. I honestly do not see what has been majorly wrong with the coaching and AD hires over the last 20 years?
Each AD has either maintained, or bettered GRIZ athletics. Each has done a solid job with donors, coaching hires, and revenue. In my opinion, between Football, and Mens basketball there was only 1 really bad hire, and 1 questionable hire (Kennedy and Holst).
I honestly don't care how, or who we hire. I just want an AD hire with the attitude in running clean programs, and want to take GRIZ athletics to higher levels. I think that should be critical, being I see no way, there is not more reshuffling of NCAA football. It is a matter of time, before the GRIZ will be forced to shit, or get off the pot. The time is approaching when we can no longer toe the should we, or shouldn't we line.
For me, the AD hire, will make or break Engstrom. If he goes conservative, status quo, puppet type, I will be wanting Engstrom replaced! If, he goes with a proactive go getter, Engstrom will earn some good points from me.
Right after the hire, I want to hear from Engstrom, and the new AD, what their plans are for GRIZ athletics? What are their visions with their new direction, and leadership? How much say will the new AD have in the inevitable decision when it is time to make "THE" decision again? What is he going to do in the meantime to better prepare for this decision? Will he have the balls to institute a stricter, more defined Athletic discipline procedures? How accountable will athletes, and coaches be held?
I hope we get a decision soon. I pray we get someone with some power, and be proactive, not reactive.
It is beginning to appear to be business as usual at UM and they will hire an errand boy to Engstrom much the same that O'Day was to Dennison. If we would do a national search, there is no question that we would find several interested people with the necessary experience. Interesting Brint didn't answer my questions? :roll:
Some of the committee members consisted of one male and one female UM athlete. Basketball coach, various community folks etc. Reports are it was a great group with a variety of backgrounds. Over sixty people applied. The group worked it down to 10 or 12 then did interviews etc. Reports say they have it down to 4 right now. Other two making the finals (and not mentioned) are from far away.
Remember this fact, Royce was on the committee and actually was the chair. Of course he should have the last say but the committee worked with him to select the final four. Stay tuned!
Remember this fact, Royce was on the committee and actually was the chair. Of course he should have the last say but the committee worked with him to select the final four. Stay tuned!
GrizBacker04
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Spanky said:
Well, here is the advertisement in higheredjobs.com: http://www.higheredjobs.com/state/details.cfm?JobCode=175640876&Title=Athletics%20Director%2C%20Intercollegiate%20Athletics%20%28461-254%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sure it was also on the NACDA site. Plus, it is a pretty desirable job, so you know that there were many people applying for it across the country.
It was a national search. Feel free to put away the tinfoil hat.
Well, if this search committee is like another committee of UM, working with the pres. on a non-athletic, non-personnel subject some time ago, what the pres. wants is what the pres. gets. I've come to believe that's how anything works in MT higher ed. It's entirely possible RE's mind has been made up, and the search committee is just window dressing.
For example, by various means, RE could make it clear that his man/woman should be on the list of finalists, from which he will pick. Who, on that committee would say or think, "Well, Mr. Pres., your opinion doesn't mean beans. Your opinion is just one more on this committee." There might be a couple, but I'm sure most on that committee will be reluctant to oppose who RE thinks should be on the final list.
Then, of course, these are all UM people, for the most part on that committee, who I would say would be loathe to exclude an applicant from UM, one of their own. Then, there's that "all things equal, the UM person has to remain in the selection process." This selection process is heavily weighted toward UM applicants, not that they might be less qualified than outside applicants, but it's "all things equal, then....."
This may be unfair to RE. It may be he wants to go outside UM to hire an AD. But, if he does, I will be surprised. My basic point is that, like the committee in the past I referred to, members of this committee will not openly oppose what/who the pres. wants. It's a 1:20 ratio on that committee: the 1 is more equal than the 20.
For example, by various means, RE could make it clear that his man/woman should be on the list of finalists, from which he will pick. Who, on that committee would say or think, "Well, Mr. Pres., your opinion doesn't mean beans. Your opinion is just one more on this committee." There might be a couple, but I'm sure most on that committee will be reluctant to oppose who RE thinks should be on the final list.
Then, of course, these are all UM people, for the most part on that committee, who I would say would be loathe to exclude an applicant from UM, one of their own. Then, there's that "all things equal, the UM person has to remain in the selection process." This selection process is heavily weighted toward UM applicants, not that they might be less qualified than outside applicants, but it's "all things equal, then....."
This may be unfair to RE. It may be he wants to go outside UM to hire an AD. But, if he does, I will be surprised. My basic point is that, like the committee in the past I referred to, members of this committee will not openly oppose what/who the pres. wants. It's a 1:20 ratio on that committee: the 1 is more equal than the 20.
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