A 12 team BSC tournament is outrageous!

[grizpsych]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

 

[IdaGriz01]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

But consider the bright side ... it could be worse. :?

There are 15 teams in the ACC. All get to enter their tournament, including Pittsburgh, which was 8-23 overall and did not win a single conference game.

The Atlantic-10 conference has 14 teams. Again, all get in. At least the #14 seed (Fordham) won all of 4 conference games (out of 18).

The Big Ten also let all 14 of its members in ... #14 Rutgers (3-15 conference). Same with the SEC ... #14 Mississippi (5-13).

I suppose we should admire(?) Conference-USA. They had 14 teams, but only allowed 12 into the tournament. (And there are a few other conferences that knock out one or two bottom-feeders.)

The Ivy has, IMO, the best setup for their level. They pick the four best teams and let them go at it … two semifinal games and then the championship.

But among the bigger conferences, only the Southland, which as 13 members, does it right. They seed 8 teams, bouncing five losers … including Incarnate Word (2-16), Houston Baptist (2-16) and Northwestern State (1-17).

 

[fanofzoo]

The ACC, Big Ten, Atlantic -10, all send more than 1 team to the dance, so their tournament is more about seeding.

The Southland does it's conference a big favor by doing that, we should take notice.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

But consider the bright side ... it could be worse. :?

There are 15 teams in the ACC. All get to enter their tournament, including Pittsburgh, which was 8-23 overall and did not win a single conference game.

The Atlantic-10 conference has 14 teams. Again, all get in. At least the #14 seed (Fordham) won all of 4 conference games (out of 18).

The Big Ten also let all 14 of its members in ... #14 Rutgers (3-15 conference). Same with the SEC ... #14 Mississippi (5-13).

I suppose we should admire(?) Conference-USA. They had 14 teams, but only allowed 12 into the tournament. (And there are a few other conferences that knock out one or two bottom-feeders.)

The Ivy has, IMO, the best setup for their level. They pick the four best teams and let them go at it … two semifinal games and then the championship.

But among the bigger conferences, only the Southland, which as 13 members, does it right. They seed 8 teams, bouncing five losers … including Incarnate Word (2-16), Houston Baptist (2-16) and Northwestern State (1-17).

I wish every conference was like the Ivy...and football would be great if, when all was said and done, the small schools did it like the FBS. Four teams. Two semifinals. One championship game.

 

[marceagfan5]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

Probably what the power conferences think about the mid majors playing in March madness...

 

[maroonandsilver]

This was a long-ago decision by the conference Presidents-they wanted all to have he tournament experience.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I feel a 4 team playoff would be perfect. Have the top 2 seeds host a game. Then the highest remaining seed hosts the championship. I'd have much more confidence in any of the top 4 teams in the NCAA tournament than I do in a Cinderella lower ranked team winning the conference tournament.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

But consider the bright side ... it could be worse. :?

There are 15 teams in the ACC. All get to enter their tournament, including Pittsburgh, which was 8-23 overall and did not win a single conference game.

The Atlantic-10 conference has 14 teams. Again, all get in. At least the #14 seed (Fordham) won all of 4 conference games (out of 18).

The Big Ten also let all 14 of its members in ... #14 Rutgers (3-15 conference). Same with the SEC ... #14 Mississippi (5-13).

I suppose we should admire(?) Conference-USA. They had 14 teams, but only allowed 12 into the tournament. (And there are a few other conferences that knock out one or two bottom-feeders.)

The Ivy has, IMO, the best setup for their level. They pick the four best teams and let them go at it … two semifinal games and then the championship.

But among the bigger conferences, only the Southland, which as 13 members, does it right. They seed 8 teams, bouncing five losers … including Incarnate Word (2-16), Houston Baptist (2-16) and Northwestern State (1-17).

I wish every conference was like the Ivy...and football would be great if, when all was said and done, the small schools did it like the FBS. Four teams. Two semifinals. One championship game.

I'm sorry there is already too much controversy over which 4 FBS teams get to play in that "playoff".

With that setup a team like Weber who almost (and should have) beat the # 1 seed James Madison in their house wouldn't have gotten to participate at all in the playoffs. Though not perfect the way the FCS does their playoffs is the best way and is not something I want to see get anything like the fBS "playoff"

 

[Grisly Fan]

So there's the pre-pre-season, then the pre-season, and now the games that matter -- effectively "the season". All games are away games for everyone. Sounds like a grand plan...

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

I know I'm speaking to the choir here. But, holy shit, a 6 team tournament is pushing it in the sky.

But consider the bright side ... it could be worse. :?

There are 15 teams in the ACC. All get to enter their tournament, including Pittsburgh, which was 8-23 overall and did not win a single conference game.

The Atlantic-10 conference has 14 teams. Again, all get in. At least the #14 seed (Fordham) won all of 4 conference games (out of 18).

The Big Ten also let all 14 of its members in ... #14 Rutgers (3-15 conference). Same with the SEC ... #14 Mississippi (5-13).

I suppose we should admire(?) Conference-USA. They had 14 teams, but only allowed 12 into the tournament. (And there are a few other conferences that knock out one or two bottom-feeders.)

The Ivy has, IMO, the best setup for their level. They pick the four best teams and let them go at it … two semifinal games and then the championship.

But among the bigger conferences, only the Southland, which as 13 members, does it right. They seed 8 teams, bouncing five losers … including Incarnate Word (2-16), Houston Baptist (2-16) and Northwestern State (1-17).

I wish every conference was like the Ivy...and football would be great if, when all was said and done, the small schools did it like the FBS. Four teams. Two semifinals. One championship game.

I'm sorry there is already too much controversy over which 4 FBS teams get to play in that "playoff".

With that setup a team like Weber who almost (and should have) beat the # 1 seed James Madison in their house wouldn't have gotten to participate at all in the playoffs. Though not perfect the way the FCS does their playoffs is the best way and is not something I want to see get anything like the fBS "playoff"

Obviously I'm not a fan of the playoffs. Especially the bloated, expanded field. Would I personally like to see the FBS expanded to six teams? I'm not convinced yet and listen to the talking heads babble on about which "bubble" teams get excluded from the farce of the NCAA basketball tournament...just so one of the teams from the Power 5 conferences is forced to beat them on the way to another "National Championship." There hasn't been a "small school" win the title since Texas Western in the mid-60s.

The Weber loss in the small school playoffs must be gratifying. You almost didn't lose like Cliff's teams played so many close games when he was coaching Montana State. Close, but still a loss.

Too many teams in the small school football playoffs and too many teams in the various NCAA conferences basketball tournaments in order to get an obligatory 14, 15 or 16 seed just to get beat by 25 or 30 points.

 

[GrizLA]

Personally, I find it odd that the public simply accepts that the P% times are entitled to, in some cases, 7 teams in the tournament while a league like the Summit where the top two had solid win lose records along the lines of 24-7, or the Big Sky whose two top teams have excellent won lost records Maybe, the mid majors should be given two spots if their records are great and some of the Power 5 with records of 19-12 or 20-13 are treated as something special. The whole tournament format could be upgraded to reflect reality.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

Personally, I find it odd that the public simply accepts that the P% times are entitled to, in some cases, 7 teams in the tournament while a league like the Summit where the top two had solid win lose records along the lines of 24-7, or the Big Sky whose two top teams have excellent won lost records Maybe, the mid majors should be given two spots if their records are great and some of the Power 5 with records of 19-12 or 20-13 are treated as something special. The whole tournament format could be upgraded to reflect reality.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you wrote. I can't stand watching the first round of the tournament when the 10th or 12th team from a conference like the ACC or Big 12 "miraculously" hits a game winning shot to win a game against some team from the OVC or Southern Conference. Can't stand the OOC play when the P5 conferences refuse to go play the "little" guys. We screw ourselves when a team like PSU who had a great preseason OOC showing is mediocre in conference play for whatever reason...